Apollo moon hoaxers latest claims - Astronaut (snip) in space therefor it's all fake must see.

Originally posted by hellobruce
One reason I think is moon hoaxers know that they will never achieve much in life, so they are jealous of astronauts who have achieved so much.

And disrespectful and ignorant to the science behind the Apollo missions as a whole...

Good post, straight to the point..

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Now I applaud the guy and his approach.

You applaud your own approach, Patrick? And why are you posting pictures of yourself now? Are you really that vain that you have to praise yourself and post your picture?

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Under a different moniker it seems that's sock puppet number 82 just the person i'm talking about
Patric ...

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astronauts who have achieved so much

I do not think that the astronauts in the commonly accepted program achieved much but a place in history books and that was mostly snatched by the first ones in any function. The fact is that they were little more than glorified trained monkeys pushing buttons in regards to their achievements, on the other hand some other qualities like courage and patriotism should be fully recognized, it is not for anyone in a "democratic" setup to volunteer to sit on top of explosive device and endure what they did. But the fact remains that their lack of achievement was part of the argumentation for stopping the continuation of maned space missions...

Most of the achievement if one is posed to believe the standard history falls in the development of the technology that enabled the feat, to the vision of the politicians that enable it and to the miracle of economists and bean counters on the government than managed to find the funds for the program amids a cold war and an active war in Vietnam. In fact those achievements are of such of an enormous proportion that they defy the rationality of the effort or even contemplating the feasibility of such a deed...

Originally posted by Panic2k11
I do not think that the astronauts in the commonly accepted program achieved much but a place in history books and that was mostly snatched by the first ones in any function. The fact is that they were little more than glorified trained monkeys pushing buttons..

Trained monkeys you say, just pushing buttons, i think you need far more than that to make this ride.

Chances of becoming an astronaut

Difficulty: Hard
Time Required: Varies, But Several Years
Here's How:

Begin your preparation as early as possible. Learn the basics in elementary school, especially math and science. Read everything you can get your hands on about astronauts, space, and whatever field you want to work in. Learn how to work effectively in a team environment. Also, don't forget the world around you. NASA does not exist in a vacuum, and you shouldn't either. Astronauts are team players. Since a college degree is a necessity, it is imperative you do well in high school first. Study hard, make good grades, especially on the SAT or ACT. Make a good decision on the course of study you wish to pursue, whether it be engineering, biological or physical science, or mathematics. NASA's "minimum degree requirement" for an astronaut is a bachelor's from an accredited institution, so work hard in your chosen classes. Your grades should allow you to enroll in a good Master of Science program. After college, you'll need 3 years of related increasingly responsible professional experience in your field. You should start preparing for this by choosing wisely when it comes to internships and coop positions in college. Communication plays a very vital role, not only verbally, but written as well. In addition, the Space industry is now a global enterprise. It's a good idea to be bilingual as well. Once you've got your degree and some work experience, it's time to apply for those astronauts positions. Fill out a Standard Form 171 (government employment application) and send it to Astronaut Selection Office, NASA Johnson Space Center, Houston, TX 77058. The astronaut application will be reviewed and ranked by various criteria, including: height, experience and expertise. NASA receives an average of 4,015 pllications to fill around 20 slots every 2 years. Next, another screening process, and about 118 from the original 4,015 will be invited to Johnson Space Center for a week of interviews, medical exams and orientation. The ASB interviews each astronaut candidate and assigns them a rating based on: experience and potential, motivation, ability to function as a team member, communicative abilities, and adaptability. You can fail due to interpersonal skills. If you are interested in a pilot/commander position, instead of mission specialist, you will also be required to log in at least 1,000 hours of flight time in command of a jet aircraft. During training all crew members train aboard a T-38 jet, in which the controls are identical to the Space Shuttle and therefore, can be used as a flight simulator either on the ground or in actual flight. Many applicants do not meet medical standards while others withdraw after learning all that the job entails. After collecting significant information,the Astronaut Selection Board will choose its final candidates and pass that recommendation on the NASA Administrator who will make the final pick for employment. Once selected, astronaut candidates begin a rigorous training program. Expect many long days, even after your training ends. Being an astronaut can be hard on family life..

(Hardly monkeys pushing buttons) and this is just to become an astronaut...

Summary of what you will need :

Height 64 and 76 inches
20/70 Corrected to 20/20
Blood Pressure-140/90
Bachelor's Degree
3 Years Experience...

That's just to become an astronaut before the training you would require
which is no mere feat, which requires 'skill' beyond that of what you would expect..

astronauts to become one step 1

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Crew Neil Armstrong, Mission Commander, was born in Wapakoneta, Ohio, on August 5, 1930. He received a B.S. in aeronautical engineering from Purdue University in 1955, and an M.S. in aerospace engineering from the University of Southern California in 1970. He was selected with the second group of astronauts in September 1962. He was backup command pilot for Gemini 5, command pilot for Gemini 8, backup command pilot for Gemini 11, and backup commander for Apollo 8. As commander of Apollo 11 he became the first man to walk on the Moon. In July 1970 he became Deputy Association Administrator for Aeronautics at NASA, and retired in August of 1971. Neil Armstrong, Mission Commander Michael Collins, Command Module Pilot, was born in Rome, Italy, on October 31, 1930. He received a B.S. from the U.S. Military Academy at West Point, New York, in 1952 and was one of the third group of astronauts named in October 1963. He was backup pilot for Gemini 7 and pilot on Gemini 10. He was assigned to the Apollo 8 crew but was removed to undergo surgery. In January 1970, he resigned from NASA and the Air Force. Michael Collins, Command Module Pilot Edwin ("Buzz") Aldrin, Lunar Module Pilot, was born in Montclair, New Jersey, on January 20, 1930. He received a B.S. from the U.S. Military Academy at West Point, New York, in 1951, and a Doctor of Science degree in Astronautics from MIT in 1963. He was one of the third group of astronauts named in October 1963. He was backup pilot for Gemini 9, pilot for Gemini 12, and backup command module pilot for Apollo 8. As the lunar module pilot on Apollo 11 he became the second man to walk on the Moon. He retired from NASA in July 1971

This is not project X i repeat not project X ..

No monkey buisness

The link i show will tell you a bit more about the missions themselves...

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Jeez, all that to be able to hop around and play golf in the moon...

... it is not by chance they got the asstronots robotized now.

No more danger pay and the need to rub one or two off if they become inconvenient and all comments guaranteed to be processed (after the proper alien filtration) by the PR machine. It will be a cold day in hell when we will see the new robotic creations on youtube talking about seeing little green man...

This will guarantee there will be no opportunity for a pathfinder to expand the spirit of curiosity at Cydonia and time will take care of those pesky communists that have noticed the Kubrick's magic curtain, ahahah ancient crystalline structures, ahahahah, how cool is it that we can subvert science to the degree that we can probably put one quarter of humanity in a strait jacket in a well padded room. We must think in expanding Guantanamo, for the hard cases...

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Please no more richie 'hoax' hoagland the mans full of sh!t and his claims debunked..
His dark mission book was a flop the mans a turd.

I'm not the only one who thinks he is too as you will read from experts:

Richard Hoagland, perhaps long ago sensing failure in his "Face on Mars" scheme, started downplaying it in favor of the ridiculous (and easily debunked) "City" on Mars, which then led to his totally over-the-top dumbosity of hyperdimensional physics. All of this, of course, fits (although "jammed-in-to-make-it-fit" would describe it better) into his over-blown conspiracy theory that NASA is Doing Nefarious Things. RCH’s latest silliness is a book called Dark Mission. In the book, he and his cohort Mike Bara are making the same tired and painfully silly claims that NASA is hiding evidence of alien bases on the Moon, artifacts on Mars, conspiracies that go All The Way To The Top, yadda yadda. He also has a website describing it. Now, if I were to make a website to promote a book, I would take some of the best bits of the book and put them on the site.

His claims are hillarious and easily debunked and have been for decades..

Hoax hoaglands lies

Hoagies antics revealed:

Before We Broke This Story, We Had Always Admired Richard Hoagland Before this story broke, Michael Vara and I admired Richard Hoagland and had even asked him to be on the “Late Night in the Midlands” radio show. We didn't share all of his views but we still thought that he was pushing for the truth in his own way. All that changed however during our subsequent research of this story. By the time we got finished with our investigation we knew that Richard Hoagland was definitely a liar who hides data, manipulates people and most likely also still works for NASA and other government agencies as a gatekeeper to steer the herd away from the truth and into whatever fantasy he is pushing next. Examples of these fantasies were when he told everybody that Elenin was not a comet but a spaceship and that YU-55 would actually hit the moon after it flew by the Earth according to his secret sources! Of course nothing Richard Hoagland says ever comes to pass and he never shows evidence for his most outrageous claims! You'll understand why when you finish this article. Why Is Everything About Money With Richard Hoagland? Everything about Richard Hoagland seems to revolve around money. That's why each time he appears on "Coast to Coast" he tells people that to get the REAL truth, they must buy his book or attend some conference where he will spill the beans! He even charges people on his Enterprise Mission website just to chat with lord Hoagland! Why does Richard Hoagland charge money for even participating on his website anyway? Why does he control the flow of information on the website and ban people who disagree with anything he says? It will all make perfect sense as you look at all our evidence! Most In the Truth Movement Have Blindly Followed Hoagland Of course, most in the truth movement have never heard any the things we are exposing about Richard Hoagland in this article and on our upcoming radio show. It's is our sincere hope that everyone seriously researches what we are saying for themselves and quit following him like a bunch of sheep to the slaughter. We will be happy to provide any information you need to make up your own mind about Richard Hoagland. Ask Richard Hoagland About All These Issues For Yourself and Listen To The Show on November 26th! We encourage everybody to pepper Richard Hoagland with the tough questions that we will bring up in this article and our upcoming world exclusive interview about this subject matter on November 26th at 9pm EST on Radio Nsearch. Word of this show has already gone mega viral and we expect a huge turnout! Make sure you have joined the site so you get an email prior to the start of the show! You may listen to the show using the player at the top of www.project.nsearch.com and www.latenightinthemidlands.com Richard Hoagland Refuses To Answer The Charges Against Him We have broken the story that nobody else had the guts to do because we feel that is our duty to share what we have found with the world. A man is not judged by how many times he appears on the "Coast to Coast" radio show - this means nothing! A man is judged by his actions and Richard Hoagland certainly has a lot to answer for regarding his actions as you will soon see! Anybody in the truth community that refuses to ask Richard these tough questions that are presented here is now a part of the problem also! If this was a court of law, Richard Hoagland would certainly be found guilty because he has refused to appear to answer these serious charges against him! He was given many times to respond to these questions but has refused to do so at every turn and in fact banned Michael Vara from his facebook page rather than answer his questions! Why would he do this if he had nothing to hide?

hulk hoaxlands antics

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What was the point of bumping this thread?

reply to post by denver22


Somehow you missed the part of me being sarcastic in my reply to your "almost sarcastic" reply to me, we were talking on achievements and you pointed out requirements. In any case I'm was not defending the ideas of Hoagland (even if I find some points valid, and other interesting, well as much as I see some validity on the arguments of Dr. Greer. I'm not a supporter of any of them nor of anyone that takes a commercial path in this type of subject), I used the content in the context of my use of sarcasm, it also seems that the hint about Kubric's curtain was lost on you...

I was not attempting to derail the thread outside of your, lets call it for what it is, attack on another user's point of view, in fact I was expecting this thread to be closed/deleted. If you still fail to understand my Kubric reference U2U me.

Originally posted by Panic2k11


Jeez, all that to be able to hop around and play golf in the moon...

... it is not by chance they got the asstronots robotized now.

No more danger pay and the need to rub one or two off if they become inconvenient and all comments guaranteed to be processed (after the proper alien filtration) by the PR machine. It will be a cold day in hell when we will see the new robotic creations on youtube talking about seeing little green man...

This will guarantee there will be no opportunity for a pathfinder to expand the spirit of curiosity at Cydonia and time will take care of those pesky communists that have noticed the Kubrick's magic curtain, ahahah

ancient crystalline structures, ahahahah, how cool is it that we can subvert science to the degree that we can probably put one quarter of humanity in a strait jacket in a well padded room. We must think in expanding Guantanamo, for the hard cases...

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What Hoagland thinks are structures on the moon, is in fact background rigs in a movie studio

reply to post by Ove38

What Hoagland thinks are structures on the moon, is in fact background rigs in a movie studio

Evidence, please.

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Bingo. Its is extremely interesting when different people using and promoting two distinct views notice the same issue with the "factual" data, even if the conclusions are distinct it proves that there is a problem with the the data, since the information (or patters they detected) shouldn't be there and has no logical explanation...

if we're going to get into medicasl records, why all the cataracts for the nauts ?


hmmmmmm

Originally posted by DJW001
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What Hoagland thinks are structures on the moon, is in fact background rigs in a movie studio

Evidence, please.

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So, you're saying that your proof of a moon landing hoax is the fact that they trained for a moon landing? Would you care to provide some context to your post so people know what you're trying to say.

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How is the construction of training simulators evidence of a hoax? Those giant Moon's they built and painted don't have any actual surface features. They are just flat and smooth with satellite imagery and airbrushed details. You'll have to try a little harder and find some actual evidence of a hoax... if you can.