reply to post by Sailor Sam
First: I apologize if my thoughts come across a bit more scattered that usual. A lot has come down between last night and today and I've got a fairly
big decision resting on my shoulders, but I didn't want to let this go without a comment.
Second: It sounds like your sister possibly did want to raise them in a bubble. The only side of the story I have is yours, not hers, so I'm taking
you at your word. I, perhaps wrongly, assume that the majority of homeschoolers out there today realize that kids cannot be raised in a complete
bubble apart from society. Doing so will ultimately do more damage than good. I'm actually reminded of the story of Buddha.
So, I admit I jumped on the socialization factor quickly, but I am, as others are doing, using my own frame of reference. That frame of reference does
not currently include people who are raising their kids in a more isolated way.
Third: When it comes to conflict resolution and the schoolyard, I really don't think the school yard is a great place to learn how to defend
yourself. It's, imho, a great place to learn how to submit to bullies because brawn and toughness is so often admired or at least feared over brains
and intelligence. I do admit that in this day and age things have changed a bit what with children having access to any number of gadgets and gizmos.
The line between nerd and bully is not quite as clear as it was 20 something years ago (there you have my age). Still, I see and hear of more lousy
incidents coming from the schools that resemble much of what life was like for me or my friends years back.
The idea in parenting a new generation of children is to get rid of the habits that have not worked out so well for humankind and to instill in them
habits and character which will ultimately form a compassionate, logical, well educated adult that can lead our world into an era that we, as parents,
can be proud of.
I don't believe that there is anything wrong with taking these formative years to lay a very solid foundation both in intellect and character.
I also believe that it is possible to do this while having your kids go to school, but I also think it's swimming upstream. Perhaps you may argue
that this creates a tougher kid, but I don't believe that is necessarily true. And that may be where we disagree.
Fourth: With regards to defending territory...
The story I told you I would tell you....
A few months back, my younger dd and I were reading Joy Hakim's Story of Science (I believe that was the name of the book). We were discussing the
matter of ziggurats. We had gone over Sumeria several months back but the point that Ms. Hakim was making with regards to these ancient structures was
The book explains that it is believed that the priests would make sacrifices to the gods in the ziggurats and that there were other 'secret' things
that went on.
If people learned of what was going on in there, they had gained power.
When dd and I talked about what this looks like in real life she figured out pretty darn quickly what this meant>
She and her girlfriends could have their 'clubhouse' in our tree in the backyard and the boys wouldn't be allowed unless they ate poop or some
other crazy thing (a sacrifice).
So I asked her, but why would they care about coming in there?
Her reply was that they had to think something super cool was going on in there that they were missing out on.
I explained to her this is what we call manipulating people to get them to do what we want and this is what these priests were doing.
They were telling people 'the gods told us you have to do ____________'.
And people thought "hey they talk to the gods" they must be more powerful.
Without knowing what was going on in that ziggurat (or in the tree house) the people on the outside have much less power while the people on the
inside control everything.
So, being a 9 year old girl she grinned ear to ear thinking of lots of ways to have fun with with the boys.
Until I explained to her:
this is not okay, this is wrong and this is how people end up dying in wars and giving allegiance to rulers who don't care about us.
And she said:
Well why do those rulers stay rulers?
Me: people vote them in.
Her: why do people vote them in?
Me: knowledge is power, they just don't know any better.
What does this have to do with defending your territory?
If the shtf as bad as you suggest it could, at that point, yes, brawn is important, but having leaders who know how to keep the people in line and can
help them all survive could mean that instead of the zucchini being raided, a community of people know how to work together to create the farm that
serves many people and they pick off the zombies with the zombie guns on the outskirts.
Off to make decision now.