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Obama asserts executive privilege on Fast and Furious documents

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posted on Jun, 20 2012 @ 02:42 PM
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I agree with you entirely. So what do we do about it? It all starts at home, and I can raise my kids to do the most honorable, and honest thing, but what next? I am more of an open minded guy. My old comander in chief was Bush #1, and Bill Clinton. I agree little difference in them. Like I said earlier today, Govt. Starts problems, not the people so why did we put them in? I take blame! I was fooled like alot of folks. I am more interested in what in the world to do about it before mexico, and our Govts. executive power makes me a stranger in my own nation.




posted on Jun, 20 2012 @ 02:44 PM
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Originally posted by shaluach
Here's my question (especially for all of the "Anyone But Obama" Conservatives on this thread): Who are you voting for for President?

What Obama is doing is highly sketchy and raises a lot of suspicion. But like someone else said where were the outcries when Bush was engaging in downright illegal activities. BTW, "Fast and Furious" was started under Bush.



Didn't they just come out today and recant this saying that it did not start under Bush and that they had inadvertently stated this? But I am voting for Romney because in my opinion all of this "He is just the same" talk is just people trying to keep Obama in office. They are not the same.



posted on Jun, 20 2012 @ 02:48 PM
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This won't have any effect on obama. Too many kool-aid drinkers and his press will cover it up quickly with a quick spin that if you ask about it your racist.



posted on Jun, 20 2012 @ 02:49 PM
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If you didn't see this video, please check-out the truth and leveling laid out by Sen. Cornyn:



I posted a thread on the original call for Holder to Resign but it didn't get much attention.

Now with Mr. Transparency working to keep these documents from seeing light, I think we can understand that this goes much, much deeper than just the gun-walker/fast & furious scandal.



posted on Jun, 20 2012 @ 02:49 PM
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Obama is a wicked little demon; a deceiver and a fraud.

The nigh useless congress, if it was doing its job, would have terminated his faux presidency years ago, and booted out all his string pullers too.

This is just another bullet point in a long list of things this evil man should be impeached for, and put on trial for treason.



posted on Jun, 20 2012 @ 02:49 PM
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U got me! I feel like it is the lesser of the two evils with Romney. It just frustrates me so much to see that we park wrong we get a ticket. Fair is Fair, but our top Law Enforcement Dude violates the law, and the top leader backs him up with this order. I say Mitch MConnell , Ron Paul, and anyone else that can do it, should make this bigger than water gate with Nixon. So darn fustrating!



posted on Jun, 20 2012 @ 02:52 PM
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It's funny. Before I heard about the Fast and Furious case I had heard MANY "rumors" about the US government funneling guns to the Sinaloa cartel. The government was scared the Zeta cartel would interfere with the 2012 Mexican election, so they were attempting to arm the Zeta's enemy, the Sinaloa cartel.

Come to find out 80%+ of these straw buyers and gun runners were Sinaloa cartel associates.....

Maybe thats why Obama won't release the documents



posted on Jun, 20 2012 @ 02:52 PM
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Originally posted by TheTardis

Originally posted by shaluach
Here's my question (especially for all of the "Anyone But Obama" Conservatives on this thread): Who are you voting for for President?

What Obama is doing is highly sketchy and raises a lot of suspicion. But like someone else said where were the outcries when Bush was engaging in downright illegal activities. BTW, "Fast and Furious" was started under Bush.



Didn't they just come out today and recant this saying that it did not start under Bush and that they had inadvertently stated this? But I am voting for Romney because in my opinion all of this "He is just the same" talk is just people trying to keep Obama in office. They are not the same.


Correct... The program that was being run under the Bush administraton had the cooperation and consent of the Mexican government and law enforcement. The program under the Obama administration did not have the consent or cooperation of the Mexican government / law enforcement.

The DOJ issued a press release stating Holder misspoke when he stated this program started under Bush. This one is all Obama's DOJ.



posted on Jun, 20 2012 @ 02:53 PM
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Originally posted by shaluach
BTW, "Fast and Furious" was started under Bush.



Holder retracts claim Bush team knew about Fast and Furious

washingtonexaminer.com...



posted on Jun, 20 2012 @ 02:54 PM
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IMPEACH IMPEACH IMPEACH

Nuff' said.

Obama= Fake and Fraud.



posted on Jun, 20 2012 @ 02:55 PM
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Originally posted by TheTardis

Didn't they just come out today and recant this saying that it did not start under Bush and that they had inadvertently stated this?


I saw no such thing. Source?


Originally posted by TheTardis
But I am voting for Romney because in my opinion all of this "He is just the same" talk is just people trying to keep Obama in office. They are not the same.


Oh, no. They are the same.

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No, you are voting for Romney because you still buy into partisan politics and this two-party nonsense. And it's just people trying to keep Obama in office? That's absolute nonsense. Do you have any evidence to back that claim? So because I oppose both Romney and Obama (because they are the same) and because I am anti-Democrat AND Republican, I want Obama kept office? The lack of logic is astounding.



posted on Jun, 20 2012 @ 02:57 PM
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Originally posted by CaticusMaximus
and booted out all his string pullers too.


Do you really think the "string pullers" (the Powers that Be, the Shadow Government, the Illuminati, whatever you want to call it) will ever be "booted out"? You have got to be joking.



posted on Jun, 20 2012 @ 02:58 PM
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Its times like this you have to seriously appreciate the 3 separate and equal branches of the government.

Obama is just one scary individual. I think him implicating himself here along with the possible ruling against Obamacare in the next few days (Fingers crossed) will be the beginning of the end for his re-election run.



posted on Jun, 20 2012 @ 02:58 PM
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Originally posted by 401SPS
U got me! I feel like it is the lesser of the two evils with Romney/


Then you are still choosing evil.


Originally posted by 401SPS
I say Mitch MConnell , Ron Paul, and anyone else that can do it, should make this bigger than water gate with Nixon. So darn fustrating!


More puppets. You think they can really do anything without the okay of their handlers? Come on, yall!



posted on Jun, 20 2012 @ 02:59 PM
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I think I smell a big distraction coming on.



posted on Jun, 20 2012 @ 03:00 PM
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BTW, "Fast and Furious" was started under Bush.

It was?
Are sure you are not thinking of another program by the name of 'Wide Receiver'?

Fast and Furious began in 2009, I'm pretty sure Bush was an ex-president at that point in time.



posted on Jun, 20 2012 @ 03:02 PM
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Originally posted by CaticusMaximus
reply to post by Nspekta
 


Obama is a wicked little demon; a deceiver and a fraud.

The nigh useless congress, if it was doing its job, would have terminated his faux presidency years ago, and booted out all his string pullers too.

This is just another bullet point in a long list of things this evil man should be impeached for, and put on trial for treason.


I would say Obama is a Radical Marxist masquerading as a moderate.

I would also say Obama and Holder have an Anti - 2nd Amendment Agenda.

The strategy for Fast & Furious was to smear the gun dealers and attack the 2nd Amendment.
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The economy is a mess because Obama wrapped a wet blanket around

Free Market Capitalism. We are stuck in stagnation because socialism doesn't work.


The good news is that the presidential election is in less than 5 months.

Then we can put right which once went wrong.



posted on Jun, 20 2012 @ 03:03 PM
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I fully agree with you, it is ridiculous that something of this magnitude can be allowed to happen. So let me get this straight. Obama and his A.G. Got caught doing something they shouldn't. Now when they are being held responsible, Obama is trying to abuse his power to keep them out of trouble. This has treason and injustice written all over it.



posted on Jun, 20 2012 @ 03:03 PM
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So what exactly does Holder have on Obama that made Obama assert executive privilege? Obama isn't known for helping people but is well known for throwing people under the bus. I'm wondering what Holder has over Obama to make Obama do this? The name Larry Sinclair comes to mind ...



posted on Jun, 20 2012 @ 03:04 PM
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How by voting for the lesser of who cares?

We need a serious 3rd party candidate or a shakeup at the nominating convention to get a person nominated by floor vote.



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