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Obama asserts executive privilege on Fast and Furious documents

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posted on Jun, 20 2012 @ 01:11 PM
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Originally posted by Kaploink

Originally posted by cetaphobic
What Obama did was bull#.

But Bush would have done the exact same thing.
And so would Romney.
And Ron Paul.
And Sarah Palin.
And McCain.
And Reagan.
And...
And...


Exactly. Nothing has changed nor will change if continue to vote in Democrats and Republicans. Both parties are corrupt. The only difference between them is who they give government money to.
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Honestly, I think you need to revise that comment to:

"Nothing will ever change. Ever. No matter who or what we vote in."




posted on Jun, 20 2012 @ 01:11 PM
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Originally posted by RealSpoke
reply to post by Eurisko2012
 


That post was a joke right?

So you support someone that would actively pursue an illegal war against Iran if elected president?


Mitt Romney told Mark Halperin that if he's elected president "we'd get the unemployment rate down to 6%, and perhaps a little lower."


Uhhhhhhh, Romney said 6%, not 4. And you seriously believe he is going to get unemployment down to 6%? Why be so gullible? Why vote for a war monger?

People like you are what is destroying this nation.




Yes because the guy in charge now is such a pacifist? Tell me.. How many wars are we in right now? And do you really think the president has anything to do with it? They can say what the want. The matters of the world still happen pretty much the same no matter who is in office so YES.. Give me Romney over a corrupt liar that seems to just be compounding his lies and problems. I cant imagine where we will be in 4 more years if we stand and do nothing.



posted on Jun, 20 2012 @ 01:15 PM
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Originally posted by RealSpoke
reply to post by Eurisko2012
 


So you feel comfortable supporting a candidate that boasts he would start a war without congressional approval?


Over a guy that has already side stepped congress on many occasions? Yep. Saying something and doing it area two different things.
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posted on Jun, 20 2012 @ 01:16 PM
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It cracks me up to read people arguing back and forth about Romney versus Obama...

It does not matter which puppet they choose for POTUS...They are work for the same people.
And yes I did say choose not elect..



posted on Jun, 20 2012 @ 01:16 PM
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Describing someone as black doesn't make one a racist.


It certainly does!! At least according to the left.


The race-baiting is merely a distraction. You know if congress were to go after Holder or Obama that's all we'd hear.


So much for the post-racial president. These two scumbags need to go.



posted on Jun, 20 2012 @ 01:20 PM
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Originally posted by cetaphobic
What Obama did was bull#.

But Bush would have done the exact same thing.
And so would Romney.
And Ron Paul.
And Sarah Palin.
And McCain.
And Reagan.
And...
And...


Um.. No they wouldn't. Typically Conservatives support the 2nd Amendment so we wouldn't be having this conversation if any of those 5 people you mentioned were in office. Do you not realize what Fast and Furious was about?



posted on Jun, 20 2012 @ 01:22 PM
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ATTENTION!!!!



This thread is about

Obama asserts executive privilege on Fast and Furious documents



Please stay within the topic.....discussions about unemployment, Israel, etc. belong in other threads.



posted on Jun, 20 2012 @ 01:28 PM
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Holder retracts claim Bush team knew about Fast and Furious

washingtonexaminer.com...


The Justice Department has retracted a second statement made to the Senate Judiciary Committee. During a hearing last week, Attorney General Eric Holder claimed that his predecessor, then-Attorney General Michael Mukasey, had been briefed about gunwalking in Operation Wide Receiver. Now, the Department is retracting that statement and claiming Holder "inadvertently" made that claim to the Committee.

"In his eagerness to blame the previous administration, Attorney General Holder got his facts wrong.


I don't think he made a mistake in claiming Bush team knew at all, that's the way they roll.
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posted on Jun, 20 2012 @ 01:29 PM
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of course their is more to it! This is part of the New World Order being built in my feelings. I can look all the way back to slick willy Clinton, and see the path we have been on. In order to get the world in this position you must take America out of the equation. It is time to wake up folks, this is no game. Get into the Lords word soon before it is too late.



posted on Jun, 20 2012 @ 01:39 PM
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It wasn't hard to see the infiltration of bible belters on this site. It happened quickly after Obama came into office. That's why you see all the nonsensical arguments of right vs left.
Why they still haven't gotten it through their thick skulls that all politicians are the problem is beyond me.



posted on Jun, 20 2012 @ 01:44 PM
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OFF TOPIC MATERIAL REMOVED BY STAFF.
 

On Topic: this is not surprising at all. Obama has a long, storied history of being asked for documents, only to with hold them. He laughs it off, and has even managed to marginalize some people as "Birthers". In most forums, the only thing worse than being a "Birther" is being a "Truther". IMO, the tell tale sign of a cover up is the employment of such aggressive ridiculing tactics to shout down your opponents

Rush Limbaugh (wretched soul that he is) pointed out that this is actually WORSE than Watergate, as people have actually died in this. And yet the media remains (for the most part) silent. And why not? Princess Kate wore a better dress than the queen! That is obviously much more news worthy!
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posted on Jun, 20 2012 @ 01:53 PM
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off-topic post removed to prevent thread-drift


 



posted on Jun, 20 2012 @ 02:03 PM
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reply to post by TheTardis
 


I understand site rules and all that. But if you made a thread (or feel strongly about a thread someone else made) then you obviously have input to add. Instead of just whining about "already posted", instead add something of value in the post. Even if you have to whine about it, instead at least try to make it look like you are just wanting to link the other thread in, you know, in the interest of finding the greater truth. But petulance? Absolutely uncalled for on a forum of intellectual discussion.

So, I looked up the photo of the "metallic door". I recall seeing that door It is actually a couple of copper pins (or maybe iron) that look like they are holding a stone in place. Like they used it to seal it off.



posted on Jun, 20 2012 @ 02:04 PM
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Bible Belters you say. I'll pray for you because thier is a difference in a true Christian and these made up junk going on today. I'm on your side with events today but whatever. Every one has there own opinions. I will say this much, Obama will proove alot of what I say before it is overwith in regards to mexico. He bowed to the mexican pres. yesterday. Need I say anymore.



posted on Jun, 20 2012 @ 02:28 PM
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As a fellow member, a word of advice.... do not talk about each other... talk about the thread topic "Obama asserts executive privilege on Fast and Furious documents"



posted on Jun, 20 2012 @ 02:34 PM
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So, let's recap the accomplishments of this POTUS who promised his adoring worshippers Hope and Change:

- Failed to close GITMO as promised
- Stalled on his timeline to exit two wars, one of which he claimed was illegal
- Committed US resources to topple a regime in Libya that had NOTHING to benefit the US (oh wait, yes it did. . .do some research on Ghaddafi's desire to stop selling his oil in US dollars, and the new Libyan central bank that suddenly formed after he was dead)
- Broke his promise to keep unemployment under 8% "on his watch"
- Forced a health care purchase mandate on a disagreeing public using a parliamentary maneuver to implement a law that they hadn't even read all the way through
- Authorized the assassination of a US citizen abroad, denying him due process, only after having spent the first year of his term screaming through Holder that the 9/11 ringleaders (who were not US citizens) deserved a fair trial
- Claimed responsibility for Bin Laden, but provided no proof for safety & security reasons
- Authorized the use of drones in US airspace
- Waived a federal law for a specific voting demographic by staying deportations of young "illegal immigrants" and offering them working visas
- Invoked Executive Priveledge to cover up the death of a US citizen at the hands of a drug cartel that his administration armed.

Imagine what he'll do with four more years and no worries about a re-election. . .we'll be many steps closer to becoming the United Socialist States of America.

-Mordeen



posted on Jun, 20 2012 @ 02:36 PM
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It goes back to the Congress not exercising there Constitutional right for several years now. Executive orders have been used, and are not un heard of, but since when did that power become toilet paper. use when needed daily. Obama knows the truth will hurt him, but who is to say that is part of the plan to begin with. These days reminds me of Alice in Wonderland , what is Big O doing behind his back while this going on.



posted on Jun, 20 2012 @ 02:37 PM
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Here's my question (especially for all of the "Anyone But Obama" Conservatives on this thread): Who are you voting for for President?

What Obama is doing is highly sketchy and raises a lot of suspicion. But like someone else said where were the outcries when Bush was engaging in downright illegal activities. BTW, "Fast and Furious" was started under Bush.

I'm sorry, but while I do not trust politicians (and that includes Barack Obama), it just sickens me to see people playing these partisan politics. Seeing Conservatives go on the offensive against Obama while ignoring things Bush did or planning on voting for Romney is both sad and hilarious at the same time. It's as bad as Liberals condemning the wars and drone strikes under Bush and then being silent while Obama does the same.

I mean, to think you REALLY think there's a difference between them and that each president isn't handpicked. Wake up, folks.



posted on Jun, 20 2012 @ 02:38 PM
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Need I say more?



posted on Jun, 20 2012 @ 02:42 PM
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Part of me wonders if the reason for the executive privilege might revolve around the use of the gun smuggeling to crack down on the possession and sale of weapons. They tried the same thing when Rep. Giffords was shot, trying to pass tighter gun laws at the federal level.

I wonder if the documents being withheld contained discussions about the political up and downsides of using these types of events to further gun control. We know Obama supports the UN gun control agenda....
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