Obama asserts executive privilege on Fast and Furious documents

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posted on Jun, 20 2012 @ 12:50 PM
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Originally posted by RealSpoke
reply to post by Eurisko2012
 


So you feel comfortable supporting a candidate that boasts he would start a war without congressional approval?


I feel comfortable with President Mitt Romney lowering the unemployment rate

supporting Israel.

The USA stands with Israel. Always has and always will.

Some things never change.




posted on Jun, 20 2012 @ 12:52 PM
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What Obama did was bull#.

But Bush would have done the exact same thing.
And so would Romney.
And Ron Paul.
And Sarah Palin.
And McCain.
And Reagan.
And...
And...



posted on Jun, 20 2012 @ 12:52 PM
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Originally posted by Eurisko2012


supporting Israel.

The USA stands with Israel. Always has and always will.

Some things never change.


Therein lies the problem.

Israel is not a friend of the U.S.

Never has been, and never will be. The amount of money we send them is unconstitutional and simply sickening.



posted on Jun, 20 2012 @ 12:53 PM
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posted on Jun, 20 2012 @ 12:55 PM
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posted on Jun, 20 2012 @ 12:56 PM
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reply to post by FreeFromTheHerd
 


You truly destroyed my quote, yours as well.
You have attempted to put your words into mine.
I have stated the obvious fact, that you have brought color into an area where it is not needed or of consequence.
All that matters in this issue is that there is blatant wrongdoing by people who are supposed to be upholding our laws.
I do enjoy my coffee but it comes from a small family up in Seattle, not bucks.
I also have no poetry to read tonight, I will have to find something else I guess.
It is too bad you are so against reading.



posted on Jun, 20 2012 @ 12:57 PM
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Originally posted by seabag
reply to post by Nspekta
 


This is going to be Obama's Watergate. I think Holder and Obama should be impeached. 

They got caught redhanded and now they're trying to destroy the evidence. Both of them are disgraceful human beings. 


Yes, they got caught but there isn't enough time for impeachment.

Lets just remove Obama from office November 6, 2012.

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During an impeachment process, Obama could be impeached by the

House of Representatives and then eventually removed from office by the

US Senate.

Well, lets just skip to the end and remove Obama ourselves November 6, 2012.
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It's important for you to look at the big picture.

Love your country more than you hate Obama and his despicable actions.



posted on Jun, 20 2012 @ 12:58 PM
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Originally posted by FlyersFan

Originally posted by RealSpoke
Remove Obama and put in Romney? Like that is any better? Romeny is already saying he will attack Iran without congressional approval. Not to mention he has no military experience, isn't a general, ...


Romney sounds just like Obama. No experience. No military understanding. Attacking other countries. I've said it before .. there isn't much daylight between the two. But that isn't a reason to re-elect Obama. Unless folks think that it's better to deal with the devil you know (Obama) then the devil you don't know (Romney).


I think you've got it exactly backwards.
Romney is the "known" element, and Barack Obama is still "unknown."

The big difference is that we know and can examine Romney's history.
Obama's "history" is either hidden or fabricated.



posted on Jun, 20 2012 @ 12:59 PM
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Originally posted by jdub297

Obama's "history" is either hidden or fabricated.


Or hidden,under executive privilege......




posted on Jun, 20 2012 @ 01:00 PM
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Originally posted by FreeFromTheHerd

Originally posted by Eurisko2012


supporting Israel.

The USA stands with Israel. Always has and always will.

Some things never change.


Therein lies the problem.

Israel is not a friend of the U.S.

Never has been, and never will be. The amount of money we send them is unconstitutional and simply sickening.


Why did Israel and the USA work together on the STUXNET virus?

We stand with Israel because no one else will.



posted on Jun, 20 2012 @ 01:01 PM
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Originally posted by RealSpoke
reply to post by Eurisko2012
 


That post was a joke right?

So you support someone that would actively pursue an illegal war against Iran if elected president?


Mitt Romney told Mark Halperin that if he's elected president "we'd get the unemployment rate down to 6%, and perhaps a little lower."


Uhhhhhhh, Romney said 6%, not 4. And you seriously believe he is going to get unemployment down to 6%? Why be so gullible? Why vote for a war monger?

I didn't. You did.
Obama has already expanded the war in Afghanistan at the same time he's negotiating with the factions that are killing Americans and allied fighters!

You are basing your fear on bias and speculation.



posted on Jun, 20 2012 @ 01:02 PM
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posted on Jun, 20 2012 @ 01:04 PM
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Originally posted by RealSpoke

Originally posted by FreeFromTheHerd
This is nothing more than 1 corrupt black guy covering the butt of another corrupt black guy.

Both should be indicted and charged.


Why are there so many racists in the conspiracy community?

There are not Brother, there are a few that try to bring back the stupidity of our history so that we may repeat mistakes.
Like I informed this non book learnin individual, race has nothing to do with this issue.
It is about corruption in our government, the kind that will lead to revolution if we are not careful.
It seems in the last revolution and the last civil war, race was not an issue either, even to the most hyuck jethro of em all.
I apologize for his ignorance.



posted on Jun, 20 2012 @ 01:04 PM
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Originally posted by DarkKnight76
If you and all the other conservatives who are sure to come to this post did just as much whining when Bush exerted EP, I would say you have a point. But something tells me not one of you even made a peep except to defend him because "we are at war with terrorists and you don't speak bad about a president during war time."

Now I heavily criticized Bush during his time in office for doing things like this and I was called a traitor. And what's good for the goose is good for the gander.


This is possibly the lamest argument I've ever seen formulated on ATS.

This is the perfect example of how valuing "The Party" over the greater good has led to the problems that we're all now facing.


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posted on Jun, 20 2012 @ 01:05 PM
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They just said on the news that a POTUS can only invoke executive privilege if Obama was personally involved which makes sense if one thinks about it.

Obama and Holder both guilty of murder and both should be sitting in jail.



posted on Jun, 20 2012 @ 01:06 PM
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Originally posted by cetaphobic


Yes, and your biased opinion is that they are not an illegal, terrorist country. Sorry for you being wrong. Cheers!







Care to show me,ANY proof,to back your claims ?

Until then,its Opinion........

And BS,at that.



posted on Jun, 20 2012 @ 01:07 PM
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Originally posted by g146541

You truly destroyed my quote, yours as well.
You have attempted to put your words into mine.
I have stated the obvious fact, that you have brought color into an area where it is not needed or of consequence.
All that matters in this issue is that there is blatant wrongdoing by people who are supposed to be upholding our laws.
I do enjoy my coffee but it comes from a small family up in Seattle, not bucks.
I also have no poetry to read tonight, I will have to find something else I guess.
It is too bad you are so against reading.


There you go making ridiculous assumptions again.

I never said I was against anything. Hell, I love reading, but certainly not poetry.

You seem to have an issue with simple facts.

Describing someone as black doesn't make one a racist.



posted on Jun, 20 2012 @ 01:09 PM
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Originally posted by cetaphobic
What Obama did was bull#.

But Bush would have done the exact same thing.
And so would Romney.
And Ron Paul.
And Sarah Palin.
And McCain.
And Reagan.
And...
And...


Exactly. Nothing has changed nor will change if continue to vote in Democrats and Republicans. Both parties are corrupt. The only difference between them is who they give government money to.
edit on 20-6-2012 by Kaploink because: (no reason given)



posted on Jun, 20 2012 @ 01:09 PM
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reply to post by FreeFromTheHerd
 


Don't take the bait. Stay on topic.

Obama asserted executive privilege.

He and Holder are attempting to push all F & F bad news past the election.



posted on Jun, 20 2012 @ 01:10 PM
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Originally posted by neo96
They just said on the news that a POTUS can only invoke executive privilege if Obama was personally involved which makes sense if one thinks about it.

Obama and Holder both guilty of murder and both should be sitting in jail.


Especially since Holder already testified that Obama didn;t know anything about this.. It was said that the Justice department was overseeing the ATF program, and supposedly, even the Justice dept. wasn't in on the whole deal.. Looks to me that this is not the case, and with the executive order to withhold the documents, it proves there is a cover-up in the process of happening. Are Americans going to stand for this kind of blatant corruption!?!?! Its sickening!!





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