reply to post by Theophorus
advaita philosophy accept as "real" that which neither changes nor ceases to exist~ in the words of Shankara .what is meant by that?
there is 2 ways to explain this and would have to see within what context that quote was written.
in 1 way, the awareness which is aware of the mind never changes. Moods good/bad come and go, Awareness remains aware of them both. Cravings, lust,
greed, ego, etc all comes and goes, but the inherent awareness of who you are remains unchanged and remains aware of the comings and goings of the
in a 2(second way), Once you are directly experiencing yourself as Awareness, and directly experience that you are not the mind, you will come to find
that, upon further investigation, this Awareness is inherently linked to Oneness (which itself is what never changes nor ceases to exist).
In my experience, Awareness is like the drop of water, and Oneness is the Infinite Ocean. However while you remain at the mind/I/Ego identity level,
it is impossible to transcend mend from the level of mind to drop back into the Ocean.
For me it was NEti Neti. Not this Not this. I read a Koan that said the following:
Just like the thought of a rock, is not an actual rock; so who you think you are, is not who you actually are.
I saw directly that the thought of a rock, is just an imaginary representation, of an actual real rock, which was solid, real, everyone else can see
it, can be used as a paper weight, or tossed through a window, or smashed into the face of the powers that be. However, the thought of a rock can't
be used to do any of those physical things. Its just imaginary, a superimposition.
I found that to be just logically true. There is really no way to refute that.
So the next step was, to find out who I am that is not a thought, the real me. Well no matter what conclusion I came to, it always concluded in
thought. Well thought is all B.S. super imposed imagination. So basically I rejected all thought, all superimposition, all mind stuff ....and in doing
so, there was a shift beyond the mind, beyond I, beyond ego.
I remained as Pure awareness, free from self, free from ego, I could now witness the ego and all of its madness, craziness, habits, from a third
person perspective. Investigating further, I found hat this Awareness was intimately linked with its source which was Oneness.
In that Oneness, there is no longer the Awareness, the ego, the I, all is One. There is no You there to experience that or be that, its just One
thing. Its the Supreme, the Ultimate, the Ace of Spades.
Anything that's not that, is all mind based illusion, and yet it is all allowed because in the Supreme everything is One. Its a paradox from the mind
point of view. But from the point of View of the One, all paradox makes complete sense.