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The Holocaust DID happen. And the Zionists betrayed Jewish people and helped the Nazi

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posted on Jun, 20 2012 @ 07:31 AM
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There is no question that the Holocaust DID happen, and it was a monstruous crime.

The Nazi killing machine exterminated women, children and elders in a industrial scale.


But what nobody dares to discuss is the role of ZIONISM in the Holocaust.

The "foundind fathers" of Israel did NOTHING to stop the Holocaust. In fact, the "foundind fathers" of Israel, the Zionists, actually HELPED Hitler and the Nazi!

When you hear about the Jewish resistance in the Warsaw Ghetto, you should keep it very clear on your mind that the Zionist organizations had NOTHING to do with those heroes.

The coward Zionists actually betrayed the Jewish resistance, and collaborated with the Nazis in all possible aspects!

I recomend that everyone visit this website and learn more:

myweb.tiscali.co.uk...

The article is called "THE NAZI ZIONIST PACT" and is very informative.

During decades, many JEWISH authors have tried to unmask the role of Zionism in helping Hitler and the Nazis, but were ignored by the mainstream media controlled by the Zionist propaganda machine.

Zionists are traitors of the Jewish people.

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posted on Jun, 20 2012 @ 07:35 AM
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Zionists and Nazis had a very similar point of view: both wanted to create race-based States.

Nazis wanted Germany to be an Aryan State. Zionists wanted Israel to be a Jewish State.

Nazis wanted Jews to get out of Germany. Zionists also wanted Jews to get out of Germany, since they wanted all Jews to emmigrate to Palestine, in order to create the State of Israel.







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posted on Jun, 20 2012 @ 07:38 AM
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In 28 January 1935, the Bavarian Gestapo circularised to the regular police that henceforward:

“members of the Zionist organisations are, in view of their activities directed towards emigration to Palestine, not to be treated with the same strictness which is necessary towards the members of the German-Jewish organisations [assimilationists]”.

In other words if you're Jewish and wish to remain a German living in Germany you will be persecuted, however if you foster support for a Jewish state in Palestine you will be virtually left alone

On June 21, 1933 the Zionist Federation of Germany sent a memorandum of support to the Nazi Party. In it the Federation noted:

"... a rebirth of national life such as is occurring in German life ... must also take place in the Jewish national group."

"On the foundation of the new [Nazi] state which has established the principle of race, we wish so to fit our community into the total structure so that for us, too, in the sphere assigned to us, fruitful activity for the Fatherland is possible ..."

Additionally the World Zionist Organization Congress in 1933 defeated a resolution calling for action against Hitler by a vote of 240 to 43. During this very Congress, Hitler announced a trade agreement with the World Zionist Organisation's Anglo-Palestine Bank, breaking, thereby, the Jewish boycott of the Nazi regime at a time when the German economy was extremely vulnerable. It was the height of the depression and the German people were wheeling barrels full of worthless German Marks. The World Zionist Organization broke the Jewish boycott and became the principal distributor of Nazi goods throughout the Middle East and Northern Europe. They established the Ha’avara, which was a bank in Palestine designed to receive monies from the German-Jewish bourgeoisie, with which sums Nazi goods were purchased in very substantial quantity.

The Zionists brought Baron Von Mildenstein of the S.S. Security Service to Palestine for a six-month visit in support of Zionism. This visit led to a twelve-part report by Dr Joseph Goebbels, Hitler’s Minister of Propaganda, in Der Angriff (The Assault) in 1934 praising Zionism.

myweb.tiscali.co.uk...



posted on Jun, 20 2012 @ 07:40 AM
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In July 1944, the Slovakian Jewish leader Rabbi Dov Michael Weissmandel in a letter to Zionist officials charged with these "rescue organizations," proposed a series of measures to save the Jews scheduled for liquidation at Auschwitz. He offered exact mappings of the railways and urged the bombing of the tracks on which the Hungarian Jews were being transported to the crematoria.

He appealed for the bombing of the furnaces at Auschwitz, for the parachuting of ammunition to 80,000 prisoners, for the parachuting of saboteurs to blow up all the means of annihilation and thus end the cremation of 13,000 Jews every day.

Should the Allies refuse the organized and public demand by the "rescue organizations", Weissmandel proposed that the Zionists, who had funds and organization, obtain airplanes, recruit Jewish volunteers and carry out the sabotage.

Weissmandel was not alone. Throughout the late thirties and forties, Jewish spokespersons in Europe cried out for help, for public campaigns, for organized resistance, for demonstrations to force the hand of allied Govemments - only to be met not merely by Zionist silence but by active Zionist sabotage of the meager efforts which were proposed or prepared in Great Britain and the United States.

Rabbi Weissmandel. Writing to the Zionists in July 1944 he asked incredulously.

"Why have you done nothing until now? Who is guilty of this frightful negligence? Are you not guilty, our Jewish brothers: you who have the greatest good fortune in the world - liberty?"

– Rabbi Weissmandel wrote again –

"We send you this special message: to inform you that yesterday the Germans began the deportation of Jews from Hungary ... The deported ones go to Auschwitz to be put to death by cyanide gas. This is the schedule, of Auschwitz from yesterday to the end:

"Twelve thousand Jews - men, women and children, old men, infants, healthy and sick ones, are to be suffocated daily."

"And you, our brothers in Palestine, in all the countries of freedom, and you ministers of all the Kingdoms, how do you keep silent in the face of this great murder?"

"Silent while thousands upon thousands, reaching now to six million Jews, are murdered? And silent now, while tens of thousands are still being murdered and waiting to be murdered? Their destroyed hearts cry out to you for help as they bewail your cruelty."

"Brutal, you are and murderers, too, you are, because of the coldbloodedness of the silence in which you watch, because you sit with folded arms and do nothing, although you could stop or delay the murder of Jews at this very hour."

"You, our brothers, sons of Israel, are you insane? Don’t you know the hell around us? For whom are you saving your money? Murderers! Madmen! Who is it that gives charity: you who toss a few pennies from your safe homes, or we who give our blood in the depths of hell?"

No Zionist leader supported his request, nor did the Western regimes bomb a single concentration camp.

The culmination of Zionist betrayal was the sacrifice of Hungary’s Jews in a series of agreements between the Zionist movement and Nazi Germany which first became known in 1953. Dr. Rudolph Kastner of the Jewish Agency Rescue Committee in Budapest signed a secret pact with Adolf Eichmann to "settle the Jewish question" in Hungary. This took place in 1944. The pact sealed the fate of 800,000 Jews.

It was to be revealed later that Kastner was under the direction of the Zionist leaders abroad when he made his agreement with Eichmann. The agreement entailed the saving of six hundred prominent Jews on the condition that silence was maintained about the fate of Hungarian Jewry.

When a survivor, Malchiel Greenwald, exposed the pact and denounced Kastner as a Nazi collaborator whose "deeds in Budapest cost the lives of hundreds of thousands of Jews", Greenwald was sued by the Israeli government, whose leaders had drawn up the terms of the Kastner pact.

myweb.tiscali.co.uk...

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posted on Jun, 20 2012 @ 07:43 AM
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Don't you think it's very suspicious that nobody will comment on this thread, and it will be "buried" very quickly?



posted on Jun, 20 2012 @ 07:47 AM
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The correlative to the acts of collaboration with the Nazis throughout the 1930’s was that when attempts to change the immigration laws of the United States and Western Europe were contemplated in order to provide token refuge for persecuted Jews of Europe, it was the Zionists who actively organised to stop these efforts.

Ben Gurion informed a meeting of Labour Zionists in Great Britain in 1938:

"If I knew that it would be possible to save all the children in Germany by bringing them over to England and only half of them by transporting them to Eretz Israel, then I opt for the second alternative."

This obsession with colonising Palestine and overwhelming the Arabs led the Zionist movement to oppose any rescue of the Jews facing extermination, because the ability to deflect select manpower to Palestine would be impeded. From 1933 to 1935, the World Zionist Organisation turned down two-thirds of all the German Jews who applied for immigration certificates.

Berel Katznelson, editor of the Labour Zionist Davar, described the "cruel criteria of Zionism": German Jews were too old to bear children in Palestine, lacked trades for building a Zionist colony, didn’t speak Hebrew and weren’t Zionists. In place of these Jews facing extermination the World Zionist Organisation brought to Palestine 6,000 trained young Zionists from the United States, Britain and other safe countries. Worse than this, theWorld Zionist Organisation not merely failed to seek any alternative for the Jews facing the Holocaust, the Zionist leadership opposed belligerently all efforts to find refuge for fleeing Jews.

Parliament calling on the government to provide asylum in British territories for persecuted Jews. The meager undertaking which was prepared was as follows: "

"His Majesty’s Government issued some hundreds of Mauritius and other immigration permits in favour of threatened Jewish families."

But even this token measure was opposed by the Zionist leaders. At a Parliamentary meeting on January 27, 1943, when the next steps were being pursued by over one hundred members of Parliament, a spokesperson for the Zionists announced that they opposed this motion because it did not contain preparations for the colonization of Palestine. This was a consistent stance. Chaim Weizmann, the Zionist leader who had arranged the Balfour Declaration and was to become the first president of Israel, made this Zionist policy very explicit:
"The hopes of Europe’s six million Jews are centred on emigration. I was asked: “Can you bring six million Jews to Palestine?” I replied, “No.” ... From the depths of the tragedy I want to save ... young people [for Palestine]. The old ones will pass. They will bear their fate or they will not. They are dust, economic and moral dust in a cruel world ... Only the branch of the young shall survive. They have to accept it."

myweb.tiscali.co.uk...



posted on Jun, 20 2012 @ 07:49 AM
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Don't you think it's very suspicious that nobody will comment on this thread, and it will be "buried" very quickly?


That's because the defense brigade will be here to call you antisemites in a flash, and it's basically a waste of time trying to discuss any of this here for 2 reasons:

a) the actual antisemites will come in and turn the thread to trash
b) the brigade will show up and accuse all of antisemitism even if none is present, attempting to derail the thread.



posted on Jun, 20 2012 @ 07:50 AM
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I dont think it were Zionists who created Israel. It were probably the same people who helped create the Nazi war machine and divided up the the middle east. Some Zionists probably went along with it.



posted on Jun, 20 2012 @ 07:52 AM
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I never hears about rabbi weissmandel and never realized how useless the zionists were about it.

Always wondered why its ok for israel to kill palestinians...



posted on Jun, 20 2012 @ 07:55 AM
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No I think it was the British, for whatever their intentions were (still are) who created Israel. Nevertheless it was an informative post Glontra, the info isn't exactly trustworthy but I'm always open minded.

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posted on Jun, 20 2012 @ 08:02 AM
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Originally posted by CrimsonKapital
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No I think it was the British, for whatever their intentions were (still are) who created Israel. Nevertheless it was an informative post Glontra, the info isn't exactly trustworthy but I'm always open minded.

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There are many other sources about it on the internet.

Many Jewish authors had written about it during the past decades.

Even a documentary was made by a Jewish director.

Of course everything was buried and hidden by the mainstream media. That's why you will think the sources are not "trustworthy".



posted on Jun, 20 2012 @ 08:02 AM
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No one doubts the Holocaust (only a fool would doubt that) however it was'nt only about the extermination of Jews (many with only one biological Jewish parent and others that just bore a Jewish name but were Gentiles yet counted among the number of Jews who would not be identified as Jews today in Israel or disapora), Gypsies and Christians but also there were Russian death camps for Poles and Germans and American/British death camps for the Germans - not just for German soldiers and officers but also women and innocent children including babies whom among them were not all German either.

Yes there were Zionist Jews amongst Hitler's SS and top henchmen; there is no doubt about that and is on record.

Now why do you want to rehash history what we already know and are well educated on? Unless of course, they don't teach the Jewish Holocaust in American schools?



posted on Jun, 20 2012 @ 08:04 AM
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Originally posted by bluemirage5
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No one doubts the Holocaust (only a fool would doubt that) however it was'nt only about the extermination of Jews (many with only one biological Jewish parent and others that just bore a Jewish name but were Gentiles yet counted among the number of Jews who would not be identified as Jews today in Israel or disapora), Gypsies and Christians but also there were Russian death camps for Poles and Germans and American/British death camps for the Germans - not just for German soldiers and officers but also women and innocent children including babies whom among them were not all German either.

Yes there were Zionist Jews amongst Hitler's SS and top henchmen; there is no doubt about that and is on record.

Now why do you want to rehash history what we already know and are well educated on? Unless of course, they don't teach the Jewish Holocaust in American schools?



I can garantee that 99% of the population of this planet have NO IDEA that there were Zionist Jews amongst Hitler's SS and top henchmen.

99% of the population of this planet thinks that the "founding fathers" of Israel are "heroes" who fought against the Nazis. And that's a big lie.



posted on Jun, 20 2012 @ 08:05 AM
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No surprise.

The Holocaust was a ritualistic burnt sacrificial offering. It was exactly the Zionists who sacrificed their own kind (Jews), so that they could forever blame you as anti-Semitic if you balked at their coming global domination. They purposely did this as a "shield." They will certainly stop at nothing to achieve their ends, won't they?




These people did not sacrifice an enemy person or the people of a neighboring race to their god Molech, because such would be no sacrifice. Instead, as in the Holocaust in Germany during World War II, they always sacrificed their own people. [...] The Zionist Jews put the poor, lower class Jews among their kinsmen through the fire to Molech, so that through that sacrifice the State of Esau-Israel might come into being. By their words, and the use of the word holocaust, they have made that admission.

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posted on Jun, 20 2012 @ 08:11 AM
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Originally posted by daynight42
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No surprise.

The Holocaust was a ritualistic burnt sacrificial offering. It was exactly the Zionists who sacrificed their own kind (Jews), so that they could forever blame you as anti-Semitic if you balked at their coming global domination. They purposely did this as a "shield." They will certainly stop at nothing to achieve their ends, won't they?




These people did not sacrifice an enemy person or the people of a neighboring race to their god Molech, because such would be no sacrifice. Instead, as in the Holocaust in Germany during World War II, they always sacrificed their own people. [...] The Zionist Jews put the poor, lower class Jews among their kinsmen through the fire to Molech, so that through that sacrifice the State of Esau-Israel might come into being. By their words, and the use of the word holocaust, they have made that admission.

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The Holocaust did help the Zionist plans in many ways.

First, the Holocaust scared thousands of Jews from Europe, those Jews became terrified by the Holocaust, and agreed to migrate to Palestine.

Before the Holocaust, most Jews in Europe never had seriously considered the possibility of migrating to Palestine. Most Jews considered the Zionists to be a bunch of nuts.

The Holocaust helped the Zionists to "convince" many Jews from Europe to migrate to Palestine.



Second, the Holocaust was later used by the Zionist leaders as an emotional tool to convince the General Assembly of United Nations to create the State of Israel.


The Zionists profited a lot from the Holocaust. And they didn't give a sh*t about the old Jewish men and women who were exterminated in the concentration camps. The Zionists only wanted the young and strong to go Palestine, to serve in the militias and kill Palestinians.
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posted on Jun, 20 2012 @ 08:18 AM
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There is a very interesting book that everyone should read.

It's called "The Hidden History of Zionism" and it was published by Veritas Press, Santa Barbara, CA, in 1988.

The author of the book is a JEWISH man called Ralph Schoenman.



You can read the full book, for free, in this link:

takingaimradio.com...



Of special interest is the Chapter 6, named "Zionism and the Jews":

takingaimradio.com...



Enjoy the read...



posted on Jun, 20 2012 @ 08:30 AM
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Yes it happened, however its not just the Nazis and Hitler to blame, try the nwo, american bankers some even Jewish! Also the vatican had its hands in the pie.
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posted on Jun, 20 2012 @ 08:33 AM
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There is NO question that it DIDN'T happen.The Holocaust was admitted to be a huge lie just before the Soviet Union collapsed when they released the real figures and the it was 1.5 million,which funnily enough,is the exact number that the Nazis documented as dying of starvation and disease because of the Allies bombing roads which stopped food supplies getting in.Germans died because of this reason too.

Lets not forget that practically every case of 'witness cases' or 'survivors' themselves,used to prove that the Holocaust did happen has been proven false and those who made it up to be lairs.

You would be a fool to still believe in something that was admitted as being a lie by those who made it up.But hey,i guess you are still under the effects of propaganda which is a powerful thing.

As for the Zionists helping the Nazis,the only time that happened was when Hitler had talks with them about creating a 'Jewish homeland' which was going to be Madagascar if the Nazis won the war.

I can't believe that people believe that ''Hitler was a Zionist who wanted to take over the world'' or ''Hitler wanted to divide and conquer''.It is all rubbish.Hitler never wanted a war(that was Britain......who were Zionists) and Germany was heaven prior to WW2.


Any post that says that the Holocaust did happen needs to be removed or taken with a pinch of salt because it holds no credibility.



posted on Jun, 20 2012 @ 09:46 AM
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Of course the holocaust happened.
Many christians, muslims and jews were killed on all sides, how could anyone deny that?
Why I hear the Russians killed alot of their own people.
I hear the Americans put their own people into concentration camps.
It was terrible all the way around I guess.



posted on Jun, 20 2012 @ 10:01 AM
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Yep. The math doesn't hold up. The entire purpose of Germany's concentration camp was to gather jews for deportation. It wasn't to kill them all. Sure, many died. And they were treated poorly. But that was just deserts for the way they did Germany. But it is asinine to believe they attempted to kill them all with delousing powder and ovens. It is silly on the face of it. That is why there are laws that make it a crime to use logic or reason on that subject in many countries. Any "historical" event that is protected by law from questioning is 100% for certain a lie. Common sense tells you that.




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