The Hobbit: An Unexpected Journey (2012) Rip-off of 'Harry Potter'?

Well, World of Warcraft ripped off LOTR and I mean big time and pretty much blatantly

Originally posted by Juggernog
Well, World of Warcraft ripped off LOTR and I mean big time and pretty much blatantly

Yeah? Well Tolkien ripped off World War 1 and 2!

reply to post by buster2010

So the question you should be asking is what did the woman that wrote the Potter series steal from the Hobbit.

JKR (like most writers) stole from LOTS of people....

The basic story arc is right from Star Wars...

Orphaned boy with special powers... Harry = Luke
Best friend who gets in trouble... Ron = Han
Girl that may end up with either, and ends up with the best friend... Hermoine = Leia
Big evil bad guy..... Voldemort = Darth Vader
Aging mentor.....Dumbledore = Yoda

The name and concept of a boy wizard named Harry Potter is from the movie "Troll"

Elves, Goblins, and Dragons are from pretty much all fantasy sources.

However, she packaged it in a unique way and setting, giving it a fresh, new life. And, she managed to create a style that is just as addictive for adults as for children. Pretty impressive talent, even if she did borrow from many other sources.

Lord of the rings was the best ever.

The actors were beyond magic.
Dam good job!

Looking forward to the new Hobbit movie BIG TIME!

Kinda funny also,I did not watch it till almost 2 years after it came out,,like BANG and WOW!!!
Not a rip off and a far cry from Harry.

I have never seen a Harry Potter movie,but some trailors.
Lot of people loved the Harry potter movies.

Lord of the Rings sets the stage in a land where it should be,not zapping to future(back and forth) to London where Harry potter lives. (or what district he resides)

No reason to get a belly ache over this.

These 2 different types of movies made alot of people happy.
Made alot of money to.
LOL

Cant wait for the Hobbit movie this december!

This, ladies and gentleman, is trolling.

Posts like that brighten up my day

Originally posted by miniatus

Originally posted by Juggernog
Well, World of Warcraft ripped off LOTR and I mean big time and pretty much blatantly

Yeah? Well Tolkien ripped off World War 1 and 2!

edit on 6/20/2012 by miniatus because: (no reason given)

Really? Just because WW1 and WW2 had more advanced technology doesn't mean they weren't blatant exploitations of the wars that came before them. Seriously, you have one person in charge that convinces others that their way is the only way and anyone else should be subjugated. Then of course you have people trying to defend their way of life as well as their lives.

I mean arrow=gun, cannon=tank, planes=well, wishing for something akin to planes. Where is the originality?

edit: planes=peasants in catapults with rocks.

Originally posted by miniatus

Originally posted by Juggernog
Well, World of Warcraft ripped off LOTR and I mean big time and pretty much blatantly

Yeah? Well Tolkien ripped off World War 1 and 2!

edit on 6/20/2012 by miniatus because: (no reason given)

Actually to be fair, he wrote a lot of his work in the trenches. More like he was a correspondent.

reply to post by Gazrok


The story ark is stolen from various fantasy novels and movies,but the image of Harry is definetely taken from Neil Gaiman's books of magic.

From the movie "Troll" (released 1986)

The only one that notices something is terribly wrong is Wendy's brother, Harry Potter Jr. (Noah Hathaway).

When he tells her of the strange goings-on, she reveals to him her real profession: a witch. Harry asks Eunice to teach him magic

The Harry Potter books by JKR were first published in 1997.

Of course, the initial post (implying that LOTR ripped off Harry Potter), was complete troll-bait, but to turn it around, it is evident JKR more than just borrowed many concepts from other fiction.

LOTR was first published in 1954, eleven years before JKR was even born, so kind of impossible for it to be ripping off Harry Potter, hehe....

Has anyone watched the 1977 Hobbit film?
Just wondering if it is worth checking out...

Originally posted by buster2010
The Hobbit books came out well before the Harry Potter books.

So the question you should be asking is what did the woman that wrote the Potter series steal from the Hobbit.

At least "some" as Rowling has admitted but the source of Harry Potter was Rowling ripping off an existing manuscript that was delivered to her by an Irishman for safekeeping and publication.

Isn't she wunnerful?

reply to post by Whateva69


I understood your post immediately-kudos for you for catching someone being a completely uneducated, dare I say "fool" Whomever this is needs to go back to kindergarten and start over, and heaven forbid they call themselves an actual journalist, or writer.
Wow, what a shame people are so lazy as to ignore thier homework. Makes me wonder what type of people are really out there nowadays.

Thanks again for the good laugh

Originally posted by Monicle

Originally posted by buster2010
The Hobbit books came out well before the Harry Potter books.

So the question you should be asking is what did the woman that wrote the Potter series steal from the Hobbit.

At least "some" as Rowling has admitted but the source of Harry Potter was Rowling ripping off an existing manuscript that was delivered to her by an Irishman for safekeeping and publication.

Isn't she wunnerful?

Are these the infamous Victor Dix Letters?

I think that The Hobbit will be a great movie. Unlike Harry Potter, which was some teenage wizard that was pretty weak and pathetic, in comparison to Gandalf the Grey that is.

I cannot wait for this flick!

-SAP-

has to be satire

has to

I was big into fantasy novels in the 80's (shannara, etc) and ddn't read LOTR until about 1995

I was stunned that every single fantasy book I had ever read was directly derivative of LOTR, and yet somehow it has escaped my reading list for so long. must have been the cartoon movie that turned me off

I've read the books 4 times now, and will read the hobbit to my kids this fall in anticipation of the movies

Originally posted by BABYBULL24
Has anyone watched the 1977 Hobbit film?
Just wondering if it is worth checking out...

it's for the 12 year old crowd. worth watching just for laughs in a way. purists cringe

I feared for my actions when I read this thread title and found myself clicking on it.

*Phew*

Once more, some random idiocy provided a good laugh.

I still don't think it compares to this rant about Firefly though: The main difference is, this person is NOT TROLLING and actually believes this junk she wrote.

users.livejournal.com...

An excerpt:

I have become increasingly interested in examining Joss Whedon’s work from a feminist perspective since I had a conversation with another lesbian feminist sister at the International Feminist Summit about whether Joss was a feminist. I am really quite shocked by how readily Joss is accepted as a feminist, and that his works are widely considered to be feminist.

I decided to start re-watching Buffy: The Vampire Slayer and also to watch Firefly and the movie Serenity. I have to say that now that I have subjected myself to the horror that is Firefly, I really am beyond worried about how much men hate us, given that this was written by a man who calls himself a feminist. I find much of Joss Whedon’s work to be heavily influenced by pornography, and pornographic humour. While I would argue that there are some aspects of Buffy: The Vampire Slayer that are feminist and progressive, there is much that isn’t and I find it highly problematic that there are many very woman-hating messages contained within a show that purports itself as feminism.

But Firefly takes misogyny to a new level of terrifying. I am really, really worried that women can call the man who made this show a feminist. For myself, I’m not sure that I will recover from the shock of watching the malicious way in which Joss stripped his female characters of their integrity, the pleasure he seemed to take from showing potentially powerful women bashed, the way he gleefully demonized female power and selfhood and smashed women into little bits, male fists in women’s faces, male voices drowning out our words.

There is so much hatred towards women contained within the scripts and action of the series that I doubt very much that this post will even begin to cover it. I am going to try to focus on the episodes that were written by Joss Whedon but I will also refer to the series as a whole. As Joss Whedon was responsible for the concept development and was a producer, ultimately I hold him accountable for the depiction of women in the entire season. Only one episode was written by a woman. It was no better or worse in its depiction of women than the ones written by men.

The pilot episode, Serenity, was written and directed by Joss Whedon. The basic plot of the series is Malcolm Reynolds and his second in command Zoe, have made a new life for themselves after fighting a war against the Alliance, which they lost. They bought a Firefly, an old space ship, and Mal calls it Serenity, after the last battle they fought for the Independence. The pilot of the ship, Wash, is Zoe’s husband. Kaylee is the ship’s mechanic and Jayne, the final member of the crew, is the brainless brawn. This bunch of criminals go around stealing things and generally doing lots of violence.

They also take on board passengers. There is Inara, a Companion (Joss Whedon’s euphemism for women in prostitution). She rents one of the ship’s shuttles. Simon, a doctor and his sister River. And a Shepherd (which means preacher), a black male character. The first scene opens in a war with Mal and Zoe. Zoe runs around calling Mal ‘sir’ and taking orders off him. I roll my eyes. Not a good start.

The next scene is set in the present. Mal, Jayne, and Zoe are floating about in space. They come into some danger. Mal gets all panicky. Zoe says, “This ship's been derelict for months. Why would they –” Mal replies, (in Chinese) “Shut up.” So in the very second scene of the very first episode, an episode written and directed by the great feminist Joss, a white man tells a black woman to ‘shut up’ for no apparent reason. And she does shut up. And she continues to call him sir. And takes his orders, even when they are dumb orders, for the rest of the series.

It's a good thing though that most people who read this garbage thinks that this person is just plain nuts. Because if this is how feminists really thought, then this world would be in for a lot of hurt if these women actually gained power and ran the world.

reply to post by EvilSadamClone


Now that is one of the most downright frightening things I have ever read. Better yet are the idiots that agree with her and the morons she convinced she was on to something.