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Originally posted by LadySkadi
reply to post by WhisperingWinds
From the woman herself:
Klein said she hopes the spectacle "might help other people." And, she said, she hopes that these children "get their share of someone bullying them."
"I hope what goes around comes around," she said.
Gotta say, I agree with her... (1)
Originally posted by lunchmanstan
reply to post by salamanda
As horrible as this was I dont think the kids or the parents names should be posted.
Also I dont hink it is the job of the school to teach morality that is the parents job.
Yes the kids were compleetly out of line and should be punished and made to personally appoligize to th lady.
But they should not be opened to personal attacks by disclosing their names, or else we reinforce the same group think or wolf pack behavior they are guilty of.
Shame used to be punishment enough. Not sure it still exists.
Originally posted by LadySkadi
Originally posted by lunchmanstan
reply to post by salamanda
As horrible as this was I dont think the kids or the parents names should be posted.
Also I dont hink it is the job of the school to teach morality that is the parents job.
Yes the kids were compleetly out of line and should be punished and made to personally appoligize to th lady.
But they should not be opened to personal attacks by disclosing their names, or else we reinforce the same group think or wolf pack behavior they are guilty of.
Shame used to be punishment enough. Not sure it still exists.
There are times when be held accountable via public humiliation is appropriate. I would say this is one of those times. Videoing and Posting on utbe clinched it for me. I really do believe it to have a stronger and perhaps more lifelong lesson... turn about is fair play, here.
I'm not advocating physical abuse/beat downs here, but I see nothing wrong and perhaps something positive to a public apology via the media or social network.
edit on 21-6-2012 by LadySkadi because: (no reason given)
Originally posted by LadySkadi
Originally posted by lunchmanstan
reply to post by salamanda
As horrible as this was I dont think the kids or the parents names should be posted.
Also I dont hink it is the job of the school to teach morality that is the parents job.
Yes the kids were compleetly out of line and should be punished and made to personally appoligize to th lady.
But they should not be opened to personal attacks by disclosing their names, or else we reinforce the same group think or wolf pack behavior they are guilty of.
Shame used to be punishment enough. Not sure it still exists.
There are times when be held accountable via public humiliation is appropriate. I would say this is one of those times. Videoing and Posting on utbe clinched it for me. I really do believe it to have a stronger and perhaps more lifelong lesson... turn about is fair play, here.
I'm not advocating physical abuse/beat downs, but I see nothing wrong and perhaps something positive to a parent making their child publicly apology via the media or social network.
Then again, I have reservations about their parenting skills as is, so I'm not holding my breath.
edit on 21-6-2012 by LadySkadi because: (no reason given)
Originally posted by LadySkadi
Originally posted by lunchmanstan
reply to post by salamanda
As horrible as this was I dont think the kids or the parents names should be posted.
Also I dont hink it is the job of the school to teach morality that is the parents job.
Yes the kids were compleetly out of line and should be punished and made to personally appoligize to th lady.
But they should not be opened to personal attacks by disclosing their names, or else we reinforce the same group think or wolf pack behavior they are guilty of.
Shame used to be punishment enough. Not sure it still exists.
There are times when be held accountable via public humiliation is appropriate. I would say this is one of those times. Videoing and Posting on utbe clinched it for me. I really do believe it to have a stronger and perhaps more lifelong lesson... turn about is fair play, here.
I'm not advocating physical abuse/beat downs, but I see nothing wrong and perhaps something positive to a parent making their child publicly apology via the media or social network.
Then again, I have reservations about their parenting skills as is, so I'm not holding my breath.
edit on 21-6-2012 by LadySkadi because: (no reason given)
Originally posted by LadySkadi
reply to post by dodgygeeza
You know, I agree that they may think their lives are ruined and I also agree that they will be facing some situations they didn't anticipate - Live and Learn - and it'll be bad for them for a bit, but it won't last forever, the public has a short memory.
This isn't just about the kids, this is about families (parenting or lack thereof) a chronic issue the needs to be faced. I wonder if the parents will learn something? My cynical side says the parents will blame-shift, hence the root of the problem in the first place, perhaps.
Originally posted by dnawrocki
Physical abuse is out...Verbal abuse is out...hmmm take the dam camera away from him and tell him he can get it back after his parents pick it up and see what he recorded. Acceptable for most adults. If not Kiss my A$$.
A good bit of back lash ripping on is fine. Not verbal abuse just giving it back. They just kept saying she was fat. Good rip (sarcastic). From what I could tell these kids balls haven't even dropped. Bullying is a way to get acceptance, Reverse bullying is a way to bully back but adults should know how to do it a bring it into a teachable moment. "See how it feels moment" then when let off the bus escort the kid off and take him/her self away from peer friends with in the distance of other adult eyes and possibly ears and talk for a minute. This sends a message to all and the conversation can remain private and usually scares the sh*t out of the kid. They can say what ever to their friends but next confrontation will be different.
edit on 20-6-2012 by dnawrocki because: (no reason given)
Originally posted by rival
WOW....the fund just grew another 20 thousands dollars in the time it took me to post and edit.
This lady is gonna be rich....I'd love to be in the room with her right now...watching the
"bully" fund grow.
I hope she spends the money foolishly and has a blast, but I got a feeling a HUGE chunk will go
to charity