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Bullying kids : Making The Bus Monitor Cry (video)

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posted on Jun, 21 2012 @ 11:36 AM
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Originally posted by LadySkadi
reply to post by WhisperingWinds
 


From the woman herself:

Klein said she hopes the spectacle "might help other people." And, she said, she hopes that these children "get their share of someone bullying them."

"I hope what goes around comes around," she said.


Gotta say, I agree with her... (1)



Yes, I can understand that she would want to see them bullied,to the extent she was, so they could feel that pain, and I am quite sure they are getting it back considering the attention this story got.

But does she want to see their heads smashed? I think not.




posted on Jun, 21 2012 @ 11:38 AM
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Karen will be interviewed tonight by Anderson Cooper

Well that was fast .. lol



posted on Jun, 21 2012 @ 11:40 AM
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Your kid is running around a store and taking things and throwing them or just screaming because he or she wants a toy, you go to your kid and spanking him a little to behave, and you have Social Services in your azz.

My kids know how to behave because I raise them MY WAY no how the government wants me to raise them. If they bad behave, they get a warning, second time a second warning plus time out and toys taken away for a week, third time they get spank. Sometimes spanking in necessary when they did something bad and they knew they shouldn't do it. like screaming in stores because they want a toy etc.

If you dont do it, they will eat you ALIVE on their 15-20's

There is abuse and there is the usual spanking, heck I was hit with a belt when I was little and I'M GLAD I was raised that way because IT WORKS. I will never use a belt with my kids tough, they know better.

Now kids have iPhones, iPads, they just ask and they got it. It took me 3 years for me to get a Game Boy #1 and by that time was obsolete, I had to earned.

Is the Government fault to many stupid laws and wrong education.





edit on 21-6-2012 by cdesigns because: (no reason given)



posted on Jun, 21 2012 @ 11:42 AM
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Originally posted by lunchmanstan
reply to post by salamanda
 


As horrible as this was I dont think the kids or the parents names should be posted.

Also I dont hink it is the job of the school to teach morality that is the parents job.

Yes the kids were compleetly out of line and should be punished and made to personally appoligize to th lady.

But they should not be opened to personal attacks by disclosing their names, or else we reinforce the same group think or wolf pack behavior they are guilty of.

Shame used to be punishment enough. Not sure it still exists.


There are times when be held accountable via public humiliation is appropriate. I would say this is one of those times. Videoing and Posting on utbe clinched it for me. I really do believe it to have a stronger and perhaps more lifelong lesson... turn about is fair play, here.

I'm not advocating physical abuse/beat downs here, but I see nothing wrong and perhaps something positive to a public apology via the media or social network.


edit on 21-6-2012 by LadySkadi because: (no reason given)



posted on Jun, 21 2012 @ 11:51 AM
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Originally posted by LadySkadi

Originally posted by lunchmanstan
reply to post by salamanda
 


As horrible as this was I dont think the kids or the parents names should be posted.

Also I dont hink it is the job of the school to teach morality that is the parents job.

Yes the kids were compleetly out of line and should be punished and made to personally appoligize to th lady.

But they should not be opened to personal attacks by disclosing their names, or else we reinforce the same group think or wolf pack behavior they are guilty of.

Shame used to be punishment enough. Not sure it still exists.


There are times when be held accountable via public humiliation is appropriate. I would say this is one of those times. Videoing and Posting on utbe clinched it for me. I really do believe it to have a stronger and perhaps more lifelong lesson... turn about is fair play, here.

I'm not advocating physical abuse/beat downs here, but I see nothing wrong and perhaps something positive to a public apology via the media or social network.


edit on 21-6-2012 by LadySkadi because: (no reason given)


You are right .. because guess for what reason the video was posted on their facebook
has an attempt to humiliate her more so other kids like them do the same on the bus

They most not regret their actions
but uploading it to their facebook

those kids will learn when they regret what they did and know it was wrong
and that they have learned not to be mean anymore to anyone

This lesson will teach them
especially knowing the lady made at least 150k because of them

she will be in vacations taking pina colada
while the kids are workings outside each day for their 2 months hot summer

Whos laughing now



posted on Jun, 21 2012 @ 11:53 AM
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I wonder how much the IRS will claim?




posted on Jun, 21 2012 @ 11:53 AM
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Originally posted by LadySkadi

Originally posted by lunchmanstan
reply to post by salamanda
 


As horrible as this was I dont think the kids or the parents names should be posted.

Also I dont hink it is the job of the school to teach morality that is the parents job.

Yes the kids were compleetly out of line and should be punished and made to personally appoligize to th lady.

But they should not be opened to personal attacks by disclosing their names, or else we reinforce the same group think or wolf pack behavior they are guilty of.

Shame used to be punishment enough. Not sure it still exists.


There are times when be held accountable via public humiliation is appropriate. I would say this is one of those times. Videoing and Posting on utbe clinched it for me. I really do believe it to have a stronger and perhaps more lifelong lesson... turn about is fair play, here.

I'm not advocating physical abuse/beat downs, but I see nothing wrong and perhaps something positive to a parent making their child publicly apology via the media or social network.

Then again, I have reservations about their parenting skills as is, so I'm not holding my breath.

edit on 21-6-2012 by LadySkadi because: (no reason given)


It's going to be a whole lot more than a just a public humiliation. The kids lives are ruined as now they are exposed to the wrath of the general public and unfortunately some people will take it upon themselves to see that these kids get much worse than this woman ever did for a long time to come.



posted on Jun, 21 2012 @ 11:53 AM
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Originally posted by LadySkadi

Originally posted by lunchmanstan
reply to post by salamanda
 


As horrible as this was I dont think the kids or the parents names should be posted.

Also I dont hink it is the job of the school to teach morality that is the parents job.

Yes the kids were compleetly out of line and should be punished and made to personally appoligize to th lady.

But they should not be opened to personal attacks by disclosing their names, or else we reinforce the same group think or wolf pack behavior they are guilty of.

Shame used to be punishment enough. Not sure it still exists.


There are times when be held accountable via public humiliation is appropriate. I would say this is one of those times. Videoing and Posting on utbe clinched it for me. I really do believe it to have a stronger and perhaps more lifelong lesson... turn about is fair play, here.

I'm not advocating physical abuse/beat downs, but I see nothing wrong and perhaps something positive to a parent making their child publicly apology via the media or social network.

Then again, I have reservations about their parenting skills as is, so I'm not holding my breath.

edit on 21-6-2012 by LadySkadi because: (no reason given)


It's going to be a whole lot more than a just a public humiliation. The kids lives are ruined as now they are exposed to the wrath of the general public and unfortunately some people will take it upon themselves to see that these kids get much worse than this woman ever did for a long time to come.



posted on Jun, 21 2012 @ 11:57 AM
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You know, I agree that they may think their lives are ruined and I also agree that they will be facing some situations they didn't anticipate - Live and Learn - and it'll be bad for them for a bit, but it won't last forever, the public has a short memory.

This isn't just about the kids, this is about families (parenting or lack thereof) a chronic issue the needs to be faced. I wonder if the parents will learn something? My cynical side says the parents will blame-shift, hence the root of the problem in the first place, perhaps.



posted on Jun, 21 2012 @ 12:27 PM
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Good, let their lives be ruined. They are sociopathic shells of human beings.

The people that say "don't blame the kids, its society/parents fault" is a completely ridiculous viewpoint. These are not little kids....they knew exactly what they were saying. They know right from wrong and they know they were hurting her feelings, yet they continued...even when they saw her crying.

And the whole "kids are gonna be cruel, its a part of growing up", it is just not true. There are bullies and non bullies....



edit on 21-6-2012 by RealSpoke because: (no reason given)



posted on Jun, 21 2012 @ 12:34 PM
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Originally posted by LadySkadi
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You know, I agree that they may think their lives are ruined and I also agree that they will be facing some situations they didn't anticipate - Live and Learn - and it'll be bad for them for a bit, but it won't last forever, the public has a short memory.

This isn't just about the kids, this is about families (parenting or lack thereof) a chronic issue the needs to be faced. I wonder if the parents will learn something? My cynical side says the parents will blame-shift, hence the root of the problem in the first place, perhaps.


How are you so sure the parents weren't very angry about the situation.

So many are saying its all the parents fault, and I personally know good parents, who have children that have crossed the line of moral conduct , and they do get angry.

Seems the public is ready to throw stones without really knowing the truth..how sad.

BUT, any parent , won't want to see their children get seriously physically abused, and I'm sure they are very concerned at the amount of retaliation as well.

If they are the type of parents that don't care ,I still say every child knows what is right and wrong, and to give them another "reason" for not taking accountability because of parenting is lame at best.



posted on Jun, 21 2012 @ 12:44 PM
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Never said I was 'sure' - just a suspicion.

In any case, the kids/teens made a decision to be involved in a something that impacts not only themselves but their families and the family of their 'target' - now they all have to find a way to deal with it.



posted on Jun, 21 2012 @ 12:47 PM
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HOLEY CRAP BATMAN!

This woman's "fund" at Indiegogo is up to 220 THOUSAND DOLLARS now....talk about your restitution...whew.

I can't quit smiling....I hate bullies....and especially "immune" bullies. There is literally nothing an
adult can do when confronted by fourteen year old bullies...and the kids know it.

You touch them...you're screwed.

If they touch you....and you touch back....you're screwed.

Yell at them and they will whip out their personal phone-cam faster than a gunslinger at the
OK Corral....and you're screwed.

What a bunch of retards....'course bullies aren't known for being smart, but FaceBook??

They're famous now, their hateful little lives will be hell on earth for quite a while....that's karma for ya
edit on 21-6-2012 by rival because: (no reason given)



posted on Jun, 21 2012 @ 12:53 PM
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Originally posted by dnawrocki
Physical abuse is out...Verbal abuse is out...hmmm take the dam camera away from him and tell him he can get it back after his parents pick it up and see what he recorded. Acceptable for most adults. If not Kiss my A$$.

A good bit of back lash ripping on is fine. Not verbal abuse just giving it back. They just kept saying she was fat. Good rip (sarcastic). From what I could tell these kids balls haven't even dropped. Bullying is a way to get acceptance, Reverse bullying is a way to bully back but adults should know how to do it a bring it into a teachable moment. "See how it feels moment" then when let off the bus escort the kid off and take him/her self away from peer friends with in the distance of other adult eyes and possibly ears and talk for a minute. This sends a message to all and the conversation can remain private and usually scares the sh*t out of the kid. They can say what ever to their friends but next confrontation will be different.


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The person doing the video taping is a friend of the bus monitor whether they realize it or not. If the video did not exist, then there would be no evidence.



posted on Jun, 21 2012 @ 12:54 PM
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Spare the rod and spoil the child. The chickens have come home to roost.



posted on Jun, 21 2012 @ 12:54 PM
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WOW....the fund just grew another 20 thousands dollars in the time it took me to post and edit.

This lady is gonna be rich....I'd love to be in the room with her right now...watching the
"bully" fund grow.

I hope she spends the money foolishly and has a blast, but I got a feeling a HUGE chunk will go
to charity



posted on Jun, 21 2012 @ 12:57 PM
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Originally posted by rival
WOW....the fund just grew another 20 thousands dollars in the time it took me to post and edit.

This lady is gonna be rich....I'd love to be in the room with her right now...watching the
"bully" fund grow.

I hope she spends the money foolishly and has a blast, but I got a feeling a HUGE chunk will go
to charity


She probably won't do this, but I think she should pay another kid to beat the hell out of the bullies. Just saying.



posted on Jun, 21 2012 @ 01:00 PM
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I do not see that happening. I see them getting high fives and praise from their peers. When I see the youtube video of one of these bullies getting a beat down from their peers, then I will agree with you. And I would LOVE to see such a video.



posted on Jun, 21 2012 @ 01:01 PM
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I agree humuliation is one thing and a very powerful tool at that( at least back in the day) the last thing I would want is to be judged badly by others.

I was just worried that if their names got out, the kids or their families my be harmed physicly.

Edit. Also I didnt know the kids went and Utubed the video that is just one more level of wrong.
edit on 21-6-2012 by lunchmanstan because: see above



posted on Jun, 21 2012 @ 01:05 PM
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If these were my kids, they would come home from school and their room would be empty. No toys, no computer, no Ipod. A closet full of basic clothing. A chair and a table. They can sleep on the floor. You behave like an animal, you get to live like one.



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