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Former sick area 51 employee speaks out once again!

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posted on Jun, 19 2012 @ 11:15 AM
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Here's a link to the article: Area 51 the plane truth

No, it is not a link from the "media name we apparently shall not speak"

This an entirely separate article, that interviews Fred Dunham on his experiences working for area 51, not of his possible lawsuit that may or may not be in process. However, this is in direct response to the front page thread so graciously shut down by our mods with no further explaination, which for those not in the know can be found here:Former sick area 51 employee writes Obama

I am fully antisipating a possible block to this thread as well, so I want to make it clear in the opening post that the only explanation provided by moderators for closing the last thread was by super mod maria_stardust:

" This thread is now closed for a staff review. Please refrain from attempting to post content from a blocked site."


So again, to clarify...this is a completely separate article, and is not a blocked site.

Anyways...

In this article, Fred Dunham once again speaks out to another media outlet to get his story in the public. In the article he claims he fears someone is attempting to shut him up (hmm, sounds familiar). He goes into details on living conditions and projects he's worked on that have since led to him having numerous health problems the government has refused to address for him.

A few quotes from the article:



Dunham, who is now 60, was recruited to work at Area 51 in 1980, just as the stealth fighter programme was getting under way. (Dunham himself won’t directly name his former place of work; part of the contract of employment he signed swore him to a lifelong oath of silence. Instead, he refers to it as “up there”, “that place” or, more often than not, “the area”.)

A security guard at a Las Vegas casino, he was approached by a former colleague who told him about this great job out in the desert, with double the money and a lot less stress than frogmarching drunks out of bars. All he would have to do was sit in a small guard hut, either at one of the many checkpoints at the heart of the base or on the two dirt roads that cross its perimeter, and make sure that whoever came through had the relevant pass. He’d be paid $17 an hour.




Among the most sensitive of the secrets was the coating that was applied to the aircraft. The exact make-up of this radar-absorbent paint has still not been made public, even though the aircraft has been retired from active service, and pieces of one of them are on display in a museum in Serbia, where it was shot down in 1999. What is known is that it was considered toxic enough that safety instructions drawn up for first-responders – firemen and other emergency services who may have to attend a crash site – called for breathing apparatus to be used if an F-117A caught fire.




West of the base’s main living quarters, on a piece of ground slightly above the lake bed, a waste dump had been constructed. Vehicles with California license plates would head up to the dump to unload cargoes of waste too secret to dispose of normally.

Some of the trucks bore the markings of NDB – a company of which no records appear to exist; rumour on the base had it that it was a front for some department of the government, the initials apparently standing for None of your Damn Business.



So what say you folk? Another blatent disregard for human life on our governments part, or should he shove his case where the sun don't shine as our justice system has suggested to him in so few words?

P.S.

Mods! We're still waiting for a response on the previous thread...this is not something that will simply go away on its own by turning a blind eye.

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edit on Tue Jun 19 2012 by DontTreadOnMe because: title edit, to reflect source info, only




posted on Jun, 19 2012 @ 11:41 AM
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The guy knew the hazards of the job when he accepted the job. So the government didn't screw him over he screwed himself over.



posted on Jun, 19 2012 @ 11:43 AM
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Thanks for posting this. I am always pleased when government irresponsibility comes out into the light of day.



posted on Jun, 19 2012 @ 11:46 AM
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I doubt they told him he'd have bronchial problems from burning classified material.

My experience with my government employer was that they tell you as little as possible and lie a lot.

It's called "Mushroom Management".
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posted on Jun, 19 2012 @ 11:49 AM
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I'm pretty sure ATS didn't choose to block the other thread. Some websites have issues with letting forum boards post links to it as is the case with the website linked in the other thread.

We can't blame ATS for every single thread that gets moderated.



posted on Jun, 19 2012 @ 11:50 AM
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Do you not understand why they took it down?
IF content from another websight clearly states on their sight you may not reprint articles without authorization, they have legal concerns to take into consideration.

No WAIT! The content was too scarey for our eyes, and they HAD to censor for the sake of their CIA backed financial campaign.

Read the Terms again. You agreed they can do what they want on here and you still signed up.

I'm confused.

And no, I don't work for them.
My fake green card didn't pass the mustard. They're too clevor for me.




posted on Jun, 19 2012 @ 11:57 AM
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why are threads getting closed with no response from any mods???
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posted on Jun, 19 2012 @ 11:58 AM
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A lifelong oath of silence, which involves intimate details concerning his prior place of employment...

Sorry, this story is fake, fake fake. Probably written by someone to link anti-Obama people with conspiracy theorists. So far, mission success.



posted on Jun, 19 2012 @ 12:01 PM
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Depending on what was burned, and when, he might easily have gotten his dose of radiation from the trash fire. The RAM on older stealth planes was occasionally spiked with prometheum, especially if it was the undiscussed "intelligence gathering" version of the craft.



posted on Jun, 19 2012 @ 12:01 PM
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As I stated in the previous thread, I've posted from the las vegas revue journal countless times...so if that is the case, why that specific article?



posted on Jun, 19 2012 @ 12:01 PM
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Double post
edit on 19-6-2012 by mutatismutandis because: (no reason given)



posted on Jun, 19 2012 @ 12:12 PM
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He would not be the first worker exposed to toxic waste products then thrown in the garbage when no longer able to work. With how the people that where exposed to corexit from the BP spill not even recognised by the medical community, sound like 'No ones Dame Business' is still in operation.



posted on Jun, 19 2012 @ 12:21 PM
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Please pass the muster.



posted on Jun, 19 2012 @ 12:22 PM
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Folks... please..

The reason for the issues on the previous thread have zero to do with the topic.. The topic is fine.

Some of the newer members might not have seen the reason for the graphic, but here's a link to the explanation in the thread that surfaced when the "restricted graphic" was implemented..

www.abovetopsecret.com...


I hope that this will get everyone up to speed, and you can tackle this interesting topic without the unnecessary raised eyebrows towards the site & staff..

Thank you, and now back to your regularly scheduled topic



posted on Jun, 19 2012 @ 12:29 PM
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Originally posted by niceguybob
Do you not understand why they took it down?
IF content from another websight clearly states on their sight you may not reprint articles without authorization, they have legal concerns to take into consideration.

No WAIT! The content was too scarey for our eyes, and they HAD to censor for the sake of their CIA backed financial campaign.

Read the Terms again. You agreed they can do what they want on here and you still signed up.

I'm confused.

And no, I don't work for them.
My fake green card didn't pass the mustard. They're too clevor for me.



This issue with the previous post is the block stated due to litigations...however, the article specifically stated he filed a case and was shot down, and was requesting assitance fileing another case.

Meaning, this was not an active case as the block stated.

There is no possible way this went from an article, all the way through our justice system to trial within one week of the publication.

On a second thought, I suppose it could be on LVRJ's end...but they're a reputable news source.

Can they claim something as news, but say your not allowed to talk about it?

I certainly could be misinformed here, just trying to find the clarification.
edit on 19-6-2012 by mutatismutandis because: (no reason given)



posted on Jun, 19 2012 @ 12:38 PM
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Originally posted by JacKatMtn
Folks... please..

The reason for the issues on the previous thread have zero to do with the topic.. The topic is fine.

Some of the newer members might not have seen the reason for the graphic, but here's a link to the explanation in the thread that surfaced when the "restricted graphic" was implemented..

www.abovetopsecret.com...


I hope that this will get everyone up to speed, and you can tackle this interesting topic without the unnecessary raised eyebrows towards the site & staff..

Thank you, and now back to your regularly scheduled topic


Thank you so much for coming out and at least giving us a little insight into this, but I apologize it is all still very confusing to me...

I have source LVRJ in a number of posts and have not been block. Not to mention its a major news outlet, not some random site.

So I have to ask, why just that one article? That's where I'm still failing to understand.

Addition:
I've read through the majority of the link you've provided, including the site owner's response, but I'm still not seeing where it applies to that specific article.

Again, thank you for the assistance!
edit on 19-6-2012 by mutatismutandis because: (no reason given)



posted on Jun, 19 2012 @ 12:38 PM
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Double post...stupid cellphone
edit on 19-6-2012 by mutatismutandis because: (no reason given)



posted on Jun, 19 2012 @ 12:56 PM
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I just wanted to clairfy for those that are not familiar with the previous thread:

I am not frustrated with the staff, or this site in any way, this place has been like family to me for a number of years...

Why I was frustrated was because the one article that got blocked was the first to have a very obvious admission that area 51 belongs to the government. For once they were not arguing he didnt work for them... they stated that both department of energy and deparment of defense covered the employees there, but could not determine what arm of the government this specific gentleman worked for.

This is an amazing admission, but sounds like you'll have to seek the article on your own.



posted on Jun, 19 2012 @ 01:32 PM
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After reading the source article it would seem that the only smart move and take-home message is: do not go to work for the US government in any capacity. Its far too late for this poor guy and even later for his dead coworkers. If he had known that when he became sick from exposure to burning of classified toxic materials he would have absolutely no recourse would he have taken the job? Would anyone? I doubt any amount of legal wrangling will get him dollar 1 in compensation. Important stuff to know. S&F



posted on Jun, 19 2012 @ 02:18 PM
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I agree completely! Thanks for the input.





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