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Satanic Symbolism in Movies - 12 Part Video Series

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posted on Jun, 19 2012 @ 10:44 AM
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Building on my thread theme (Past Threads), this video series outlines the platform behind the Mystery School Gnostic Theology. It took me some time to put the entire picture together as I learn the various aspects of the Mystery Schools. This video series is a very clearly defined depiction for connecting the myth of Apollyon/Nimrod/Osiris/Isis against the true thread of truth found in the Bible, leading to the true Savior and Messiah as Jesus. Contrasting this against Abraham/Issac/Jacob/David and Jesus, we see that we CAN know the truth.

As always, know them by their fruit. One fruit is given by God and the other fruit is taken as the fruit of knowledge. One heals and the other corrupts the Earth. One deceives and misdirects, the other is easily verified. One is secret, the other is open and given freely. One twists truth, the other presents truth that speaks to the heart.




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posted on Jun, 19 2012 @ 10:50 AM
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2 1/2 minutes in, and the dude has contradicted himself and is all over the place.

He hasn't even shown one movie clip yet.

Sometimes stories are just stories, like the Bible.



posted on Jun, 19 2012 @ 11:25 AM
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All you have to do is read the OT and realize that the Gnostics were correct. The god of the OT is an impostor. He is not a loving god but an murderous egomaniac with no regard for the creatures of earth. He is not omnipotent if he had 1/3 of the angels rebel against him. He even had other gods as enemies. His territory and reign was restricted.

Thankfully he is long gone. Most probably banished by higher powers for his mischief.



posted on Jun, 19 2012 @ 11:32 AM
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What kind of accent is that? Pot-head? What region of the US makes people sound like that, I don't get it?

ANYWAY...

Gnostics seem like they were on the right path. The God of the OT and NT actions sounds like they were that of an evil being. Who throws people into hell because they don't believe in them? Seriously? A sadistic EVIL being.

If humans torture they are considered evil, why not a God? Why give special privileges to another self aware sentient being that fully understands the pain it is inflicting on others?



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posted on Jun, 19 2012 @ 12:15 PM
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Same o same o.

basically it's the assumption that once one symbol has one meaning, it must always mean that one single meaning throughout all time. Of course it's impossible for symbols to change their meaning.

So the usual claim goes.

For instance, take the five pointed star. Today it is famously known as a pentagram, especially if you draw a circle around it.

But in early medieval times, it was a christian symbol and symbolized the five wounds of Christ or when a knight had it on his armor, it symbolized the five knightly virtues.

So, if symbols never change their meaning, why isn't a five pointed star still a holy symbol of Jesus?

That's my entire problem with these claims of satanic imagery in the movies.

Mostly I think it's just a bunch of hooey.



posted on Jun, 19 2012 @ 01:19 PM
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They were trying to make sense of the OT God, the one that said it is a jealous God, the one that commanded people to slaughter other tribes, etc. That "tribal deity." They were also trying to make sense of all the suffering of this world, and came to the conclusion that the universe must be an imperfect creation because such suffering exists.

But there is always a way out; Love would have it no other way.

What is important is that divinity resides within each and every one of us ("the kingdom is within all"). Knowledge is awareness, which is consciousness. The serpent is a symbol, nothing more. They have tried to demonize that symbol by attaching a figment to it, so that mankind remains as docile slaves for TPTB. A symbol of wisdom becomes a symbol of accusation and deceit. But it's mainly a reference to the Kundalini, which is depicted as a coiled power rising up the spine and through the crown of the head. This is transcendence, the highest form of knowledge (awareness of the truth) one can have while in a human body; enlightenment. A shocking experience I'm sure, that not all are or were prepared to experience while in human form. What lies in that truth is that all is One, regardless of belief. Love permeates everything, for it is by love that we are conscious. The Creator's love is boundless, so much that he provides many paths to better understand him and ourselves (not all are even spiritual), if we so chose to, all freely available to us, and whether we walk that path or not, we are still loved.

They are not mystery schools anymore, and in the case of the early Christian gnostics, was only esoteric because it's concepts were far advanced for the major population (and still is apparently) and also because of the intolerance of the newly formed church at the time and some of the Jews of the time. Jesus spoke in parables to disguise his sayings from the Pharisees and scholars that would rape his words. The early Christian teachings also reveal the connection to eastern beliefs, and that we are eternal beings. Those that have tried to hide these truths from us would have us live in blindness (ignorance), in fear of death, and in fear of questioning (and we all know what happened to people that questioned the church... they were punished, or even gruesomely murdered). The ones that have tried to hide the light from us still try to today. Look at society, look at the control, look at the ignorance of man. Look at the hypocrisy. We always tell people to "wake up", what we really mean is "be conscious," be aware... People will find the "mysteries" or any other form of spiritual philosophy, and understand them when they are ready to, because not all of us are or were ready for it, or even willing to understand any of it. It's no secret, it comes to those who ask for it. I know, from personal experience. It's all just another notch in the belt regardless.

Nothing is hidden that will not be disclosed. You say one distorts and twists the truth, I say that that same one only tries to make sense of things that made no sense. It is rationality. The Bible is full of contradictions, and the OT and NT are drastically different in most areas, especially in their depiction of God. The video said that the gnostics tried to flip things around as a way to deceive people, yet they seemed to be trying to expose the hidden empire of this world, that still reigns to this day. Those "rulers" couldn't allow these things to be exposed, and so snubbed the teachings out. The archons, ie., the annunaki: the "gods, angels, and demons" of the old world.

I'll tell you, Satan is just the unchecked ego of the human mind. There is no duality in God: no good vs evil. God requires nothing, needs nothing, because God is everything. God is One, the fullness, and from that fullness everything and nothing comes forth. We perceive our reality in duality because it's the most obvious form of perception. We fail to realize that this dualism, as well as pluralism, exists for the sake of the "human experience." We take apart the one, make two from it, or more, and from those two or more, we reassemble it into one. When we are one, we're whole, when we are two or more, we stand divided. We are in a divided world now and have been for a long time. Men fight against men, wage wars in the name of a god or for material things, and many tribes still arrogantly believe that they hold a monopoly on the human understanding of spirituality, not realizing all the gentle ties that connect all beliefs; all schools of spirituality... to nature itself, to all that is, was, and shall be.
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posted on Jun, 19 2012 @ 01:22 PM
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Originally posted by RealSpoke

The God of the OT and NT actions sounds like they were that of an evil being. Who throws people into hell because they don't believe in them? Seriously? A sadistic EVIL being.

If humans torture they are considered evil, why not a God? Why give special privileges to another self aware sentient being that fully understands the pain it is inflicting on others?



edit on 19-6-2012 by RealSpoke because: (no reason given)


People throw people into fire, God does not. Concerning such things, God was speaking against the people of Israel (yes, in the OT) doing such things, and stated that such a thing had never entered His mind. Come again? No, he had never even THOUGHT of such a thing. Now, you think that this God, who never thought of throwing people into a literal fire, has purposed to throw you into a mythical fire when you die? Remember that God told Adam and Eve told them that if they ate of the wrong fruit, they would just die, not die and then be thrown into hellfire. It was the same for Cain, and host of other sinners who came after him. A million hellfire-and-brimstone preachers do not make it so. "Hell" means the grave, nothing more.



posted on Jun, 19 2012 @ 01:40 PM
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Originally posted by windword
All you have to do is read the OT and realize that the Gnostics were correct. The god of the OT is an impostor. He is not a loving god but an murderous egomaniac with no regard for the creatures of earth. He is not omnipotent if he had 1/3 of the angels rebel against him. He even had other gods as enemies. His territory and reign was restricted.

Thankfully he is long gone. Most probably banished by higher powers for his mischief.


In a prison, I am sure the murders and thieves might say the same about their judge. The rest of us are on the outside looking in and thankful for justice. We can't say that God is evil because he takes life. He gives life as well and Jesus said, "You must be born again." In other words, you will be born again. The Bible outlines the process of water baptism. This symbol of baptism has the root meaning of our immersion into reality. Water represents life in the material world. In John 3, Jesus outlines the fact that you must be born of water AND spirit if salvation is to come. Salvation form what? The fire. We are baptized into the water so that we can cleanse the temple (body/heart) and gain union with a loving God in the spirit.

The process is of 5 baptisms: Earth (Matter), Air (Word / Wave / Breath), Water (Baptism and Immersion to raise to new life) and Fire (Trials / Overcoming the baptisms). The final stage of this development comes from our baptism into the Spirit.

In Matthew 3, three of these are outlined. The Sadducees and Pharisees were coming to be baptized in water. What did John say? Remember, the experts in the law knew the truth, witnessed the miracles, yet refused to acknowledge God in the flesh and his authority over all life. John tells them this:

7 But when he saw many of the Pharisees and Sadducees coming to where he was baptizing, he said to them: “You brood of vipers! Who warned you to flee from the coming wrath? 8 Produce fruit in keeping with repentance. 9 And do not think you can say to yourselves, ‘We have Abraham as our father.’ I tell you that out of these stones God can raise up children for Abraham. 10 The ax is already at the root of the trees, and every tree that does not produce good fruit will be cut down and thrown into the fire.

11 “I baptize you with water for repentance. But after me comes one who is more powerful than I, whose sandals I am not worthy to carry. He will baptize you with[c] the Holy Spirit and fire. 12 His winnowing fork is in his hand, and he will clear his threshing floor, gathering his wheat into the barn and burning up the chaff with unquenchable fire.”

Notice that there are three baptisms listed. How is fire put out and death ended for the last time? Water puts out fire. Salvation comes when we acknowledge God and his soverign authority over us in the water. If not, the fire is needed to melt the heart and reshape our understanding. It does little good to complain and point a finger at God. He is long-suffering with us. The entire process is one of refinement, just like the furnace of an iron-smelting refinery.

Deuteronomy 4

19 And when you look up to the sky and see the sun, the moon and the stars —all the heavenly array —do not be enticed into bowing down to them and worshiping things the Lord your God has apportioned to all the nations under heaven. 20 But as for you, the Lord took you and brought you out of the iron-smelting furnace, out of Egypt, to be the people of his inheritance, as you now are.

Our inheritance is our salvation from the furnace of life. We must be remade (reborn). The answer is to see our self as we are. We must also see God as THE sovereign authority. Love of this magnitude is easily missed if you miss the entire picture.




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posted on Jun, 19 2012 @ 01:46 PM
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7 But when he saw many of the Pharisees and Sadducees coming to where he was baptizing, he said to them: “You brood of vipers! Who warned you to flee from the coming wrath? 8 Produce fruit in keeping with repentance. 9 And do not think you can say to yourselves, ‘We have Abraham as our father.’ I tell you that out of these stones God can raise up children for Abraham. 10 The ax is already at the root of the trees, and every tree that does not produce good fruit will be cut down and thrown into the fire.


That's because the Pharisees and Sadducees worshiped the false god of the OT. Jesus' "father god" was a different god than that fire breathing, hateful, murderous deity of the OT.



posted on Jun, 19 2012 @ 01:53 PM
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Originally posted by Lazarus Short

Originally posted by RealSpoke

The God of the OT and NT actions sounds like they were that of an evil being. Who throws people into hell because they don't believe in them? Seriously? A sadistic EVIL being.

If humans torture they are considered evil, why not a God? Why give special privileges to another self aware sentient being that fully understands the pain it is inflicting on others?



edit on 19-6-2012 by RealSpoke because: (no reason given)


People throw people into fire, God does not. Concerning such things, God was speaking against the people of Israel (yes, in the OT) doing such things, and stated that such a thing had never entered His mind. Come again? No, he had never even THOUGHT of such a thing. Now, you think that this God, who never thought of throwing people into a literal fire, has purposed to throw you into a mythical fire when you die? Remember that God told Adam and Eve told them that if they ate of the wrong fruit, they would just die, not die and then be thrown into hellfire. It was the same for Cain, and host of other sinners who came after him. A million hellfire-and-brimstone preachers do not make it so. "Hell" means the grave, nothing more.


Read my last post above this one. I think we need to always reduce the imagery in the Bible to its root. Fire and Hell are trials and the conditions we find ourselves in by disobedience. God refines us in a baptism of fire. All believers have the opportunity to put the fire out with the water. When we are IN Christ, we are seen by God as Christ is. Water puts out fire. Some will choose to ride the timeline to the end through the fire. In the End, 1 Corinthians 13 says that God keeps no record of wrongs for those who love. Some will choose to hate God to the end.

As Christ is, so are we in this world.

Keep in mind, as I know you already realize, that we are the Beloved of God. God sees us with a perfect love as He sees Christ. On your worst day, God loves us as he loves Christ. We are in Christ and as Christ is. Do we love God and Jesus this much? Not yet. When we realize that we are God's beloved, just like Christ, we can then point to Christ in revealing God's love for us. How much love does the Father have for his loved ones? Perfect love. It's not about what we can do, but what has been done for us to rescue us from the fire of sin and death. Even in the fire of our trials, we are God's beloved.

Even the Gnostics, in all of their confusion, realized this:

Gospel of Philip

When the pearl is cast down into the mud, it becomes greatly despised, nor if it is anointed with balsam oil will it become more precious. But it always has value in the eyes of its owner. Compare the Sons of God: wherever they may be, they still have value in the eyes of their Father.



posted on Jun, 19 2012 @ 02:45 PM
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Originally posted by DaTroof
2 1/2 minutes in, and the dude has contradicted himself and is all over the place.

He hasn't even shown one movie clip yet.

Sometimes stories are just stories, like the Bible.


You say theyre stories because you do not see what is lying underneath of them. You have eyes but you do not see, you have ears but you do not understand. There is alot of science there if you know how and where to look, alot of quantum physics and quantum dynamics, other dimensions that exist on a different wavelength you cannot see but are nonetheless really there. Another spectrum, underneath our spectrum of visible light that we can see, another world just out of arms reach. It surrounds us yet we cannot see it. They can see us, but we cannot see them under the power of our own eyes. They are from the 3rd dimension, we exist on the 4th dimension.
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posted on Jun, 19 2012 @ 11:33 PM
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People throw people into fire, God does not.


Yeah. The military doesn't torture people, the prisoners themselves do by putting themselves in that situation.



"Hell" means the grave, nothing more.


So God permanently kills people, just as bad.



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