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US plans significant military presence in Kuwait

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posted on Jun, 20 2012 @ 12:35 AM
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The United States no longer uses Nuclear Weapons in their Defense Equations. The U.S. has much more useful as well as powerful weapons that can render another countries Military inert. Nuclear weapons are only used in planning of retaliation of another countries ICBM or other Nuclear weapon launch or use or as a First Strike preventative Measure against an Imminent Launch of Nuclear Missiles or other Nuclear Weapons.

The U.S. Military is without peer. It has had Nuclear weapons capabilities since 1945...that was 67 YEARS AGO! I know without any doubt that the U.S. Military has New Weapon systems of such variety of use as well as specific to mission or use that Nuclear Weapons are seen as Dinosaurs.

While countries such as Iran or Syria attempt to develop the most rudimentary of Atomic Weapons...67 YEARS after their First Use...the United States has Battle Ready Weapons of such advancement and power that they are kept secret until an opportunity presents itself....such as about a year back when a Falling Satellite with a Booster Tank loaded with Hydrazine...was blown up in orbit by an Upgrades SM-3 Missile that previously to this demonstration was unknown to be able to be a Satellite Killer or have the ability to also be able to easily destroy incoming ICBM's. This was achieved by a Breakthrough in Solid Rocket Fuel as well as Networked Super Computing Target and Acquisition systems.

The U.S. has many other Top Secret Weapon Systems that have not yet been used but are Battle Ready...and if these weapons are needed...they will be used. Split Infinity




posted on Jun, 20 2012 @ 12:36 AM
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"Iran does put out anti-semetic stuff, but its about Zionists, not Judaism”


Really ? Than who exactly do you think sponsored a `Holocaust cartoons' contest ?

joshuapundit.blogspot.co.il...

What about Iranian websites:



Are you familiar with the ““Saturday Hunter” movie ?

www.theblaze.com...

I can assure you, this is just the tip of the iceberg.



"Iran also has the largest Jewish population in the Middle East outside of Israel.. so why, if they hate jewish people so much, haven't they just killed them all?? “


Yeah, the good old 25000 Jews argument...
When Hitler came to power, Germany had a community of 500,000 Jews. We all know(I hope) what happened next.



posted on Jun, 20 2012 @ 12:38 AM
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I see Gog and Magog prepairing here. Review the KJV bible at all the prophecy chapters. Honestly this is working out identical to that. Just like when I was stationed in Italy; we had a missle fired at us from the serbians in the 90's, and that never made news. We should focus on George Soros and what he is up to. Because this is purely a World Order plan.



posted on Jun, 20 2012 @ 12:15 PM
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All the more reason why the leaders of Iran would seek to develop a nuclear weapon as a deterrent not for offensive reasons. That is if they are even trying to so do.
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posted on Jun, 20 2012 @ 11:14 PM
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A Few Nuclear Weapons is not a deterrent for U.S. Military Action. Even 20 Nuclear ICBM's that are ACCURATE is not enough of a deterrent. The U.S. would preemptively either seize the weapons or if they were atop Missiles...shoot them out of the sky.

In reality...Iran is working on the most rudimentary of a 1945 style Nuclear Bomb. It has no ability to place one of these atop a missile and the only delivery method it could actually attempt would be with a large truck. A Nuke aboard a Truck can be easily followed by several methods including specialized Satellites.
Split Infinity



posted on Jun, 20 2012 @ 11:21 PM
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Originally posted by SplitInfinity
reply to post by majesticgent
 

A Few Nuclear Weapons is not a deterrent for U.S. Military Action. Even 20 Nuclear ICBM's that are ACCURATE is not enough of a deterrent. The U.S. would preemptively either seize the weapons or if they were atop Missiles...shoot them out of the sky.

In reality...Iran is working on the most rudimentary of a 1945 style Nuclear Bomb. It has no ability to place one of these atop a missile and the only delivery method it could actually attempt would be with a large truck. A Nuke aboard a Truck can be easily followed by several methods including specialized Satellites.
Split Infinity









Iran bought 19 advanced missiles from North Korea, a diplomatic cable says. The North displayed what some experts say are the same kind of missiles in an October parade.



Iran obtained 19 of the missiles from North Korea, according to a cable dated Feb. 24 of this year. The cable is a detailed, highly classified account of a meeting between top Russian officials and an American delegation led by Vann H. Van Diepen, an official with the State Department’s nonproliferation division who, as a national intelligence officer several years ago, played a crucial role in the 2007 assessment of Iran’s nuclear capacity.



The missiles could for the first time give Iran the capacity to strike at capitals in Western Europe or easily reach Moscow, and American officials warned that their advanced propulsion could speed Iran’s development of intercontinental ballistic missiles.


Iran Fortifies Its Arsenal With the Aid of North Korea

Good old WikiLeaks.........



posted on Jun, 20 2012 @ 11:47 PM
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The First thing you have to take into account is the constant overstatements of a Threat as this is how Lobbyists get Politicians to spend money on Military Programs we don't need.

Secondly...these Missiles are pieces of S#!% and they have an over 99% Failure rate as far as getting even CLOSE to a target if off the ground.

Thirdly...the United States pulled out of the Polish Land site that was to be used in conjunction with Russian Radar as well as another site as well as Radar in the Czech Republic...not because PUTIN Bitched about it but two Breakthroughs in Tech. allowed for a BETTER OPTION.

The First breakthrough was in Long Burning Compact as well as Powerful Solid Rocket Fuel. The Second Breakthrough was in Super High Powered Micro-Radar Systems that were tied into a Networked Super Computing Target and Acquisition System. This turned a standard Aegis Cruiser Launched SM-3 Missile into an AMB as well as a Satellite Killer. The Poles were very disappointed when the Land Based System was scrubbed but after being informed of the Scale of the SM-3 Program and it's abilities as well as the current installation of the Nuclear Powered Free Electron Laser System which will be placed aboard every U.S. Carrier as well as Aegis Cruiser with it's own Nuclear Power Plant...and that the U.S. promised to protect Polish Airspace with these systems...the Poles liked the concept better than having to allow Russians on site of a Polish/American Military Base. Split Infinity



posted on Jun, 20 2012 @ 11:55 PM
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Originally posted by SplitInfinity


these Missiles are pieces of S#!% and they have an over 99% Failure rate as far as getting even CLOSE to a target if off the ground.




Hmmmm..............


This design was refined into the first successful Soviet subarine-launched ballistic missile with MIRV warhead. This was designated as R-27U (also known as RSM-25), which was designed in 1971-72 and tested in 1972-74. This new missile could cary either three individual warheads or a single heavier warhead. Complex D-5U with R-27U missiles was accepted into service in January 1974. This missile could be launched from depths of 140 to 160 feet (42 to 48 m) at speeds of up to 4 knots. In the period between 1974 and 1990 161 missiles were launched with a 93% success rate.


Russia / USSR R-27 Missile


Sorry,If I dont take your WORD for it.......



posted on Jun, 21 2012 @ 01:31 AM
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You sure did blow him out of the water.



posted on Jun, 21 2012 @ 01:39 AM
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Is that Submarine Talk?




posted on Jun, 21 2012 @ 01:43 AM
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yep.



posted on Jun, 21 2012 @ 02:12 AM
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Missiles need CONSTANT maintenance and the R-27U was a single stage Liquid Fueled Missile that leaked like a sieve. The North Koreans have neither the Tech. nor the Right Fuel to Launch these in any useful way and any U.S. Satellite would have alot of beforehand notice when one of these was being fueled up as unlike U.S. Missiles or ICBM's which are all...SOLID FUELED AND ARE DESIGNED TO LAUNCH AT A SECONDS NOTICE...these pieces of crap are more apt to BLOW UP AS THEY ARE BEING FUELED.

The R-27U was also notorious for being extremely inaccurate. They did not have much of a range since much of their fuel was lost at takeoff due to bad seals as well as Liquid Fuel Pumps that had a tendency to not fuel this missile to 100% even though THAT was even impossible given the leaks.

The guidance system on this missile is so old that the U.S. would not even need to shoot it down. There are a variety of U.S. Aircraft designed to perform electronic warfare against such a missile and even an F-15 or even F-4 E.W. Varient could steer this thing right into the ocean or even back at it's own launcher.

As I have said...the United States does not fear a County with Nuclear Weapons and even Russia will not even be an issue once the FEL is fully installed. Split Infinity



posted on Jun, 21 2012 @ 02:27 AM
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Originally posted by ludwigvonmises003
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You sure did blow him out of the water.


Also...speaking of being Blown out of the Water. You can go on several Russian Media sites and see a Video of a Russian Admiral chastising the Iranian...Civilian Leadership of the Iranian Military that made Boastful Statements about Iranian Naval Capabilities being capable of defeating the U.S. Fifth Fleet which is a U.S Nuclear Carrier Group with all surface ships and subs that come with one.

He said right on Russian T.V....the Iranians should not be boasting about taking on a U.S. Carrier Group. The capabilities as well as shear Firepower of such a Carrier Group FAR EXCEED the capabilities of then entire IRANIAN MILITARY. We Russians have better Naval Ships than Iran but even our Navy knows what a U.S. Carrier Group is capable of and any false sense of Iranian ability to sink a U.S. Carrier with a Missile....the United States spends Billions of Dollars on these Naval Groups and Protection of a Carrier is a well thought out multi-leveled defensive system. In a real WAR...the U.S. Fifth Fleet would already have identified all threats as well as any Iranian Subs...fr the U.S. Navy...it would be like shooting Ducks in a Bath Tub. Split Infinity



posted on Jun, 21 2012 @ 02:40 AM
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For you:

www.youtube.com...



I guess you might understand.
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posted on Jun, 21 2012 @ 02:46 AM
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What I understand besides the now known fact that you actually wasted the time and knew this vid existed...t post it...but what I understand...is that I presented verifiable facts which you chose not to dispute other than in a childish way.

I also Understand more than you could imagine. Split Infinity



posted on Jun, 21 2012 @ 02:48 AM
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Originally posted by SplitInfinity
We Russians have better Naval Ships than Iran but even our Navy knows what a U.S. Carrier Group is capable of and any false sense of Iranian ability to sink a U.S. Carrier with a Missile....the United States spends Billions of Dollars on these Naval Groups and Protection of a Carrier is a well thought out multi-leveled defensive system. In a real WAR...the U.S. Fifth Fleet would already have identified all threats as well as any Iranian Subs...fr the U.S. Navy...it would be like shooting Ducks in a Bath Tub. Split Infinity



No one is saying that The US isnt superior,when it comes to technology. What I am saying is that even the old Russian Missiles are dangerous.Missiles in the wrong hands,with Nuclear warheads,dont need to be accurate.............To do damage.




posted on Jun, 21 2012 @ 12:53 PM
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Originally posted by KnawLick
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It really doesn't have much to do with oil. The US gets like 7% of its oil from the middle east. Canada, Mexico and the United States have enough oil to never use anybody outside of North America for the next 200 years.

What it's REALLY about is religion. The Bible, the quran and the Torah are very clear that, He who controls the Holy Land, controls the world.

Bush didn't ever mention wanting to go into Iraq for the oil, he explicitly said "I want to conquer Babylon".


Babylon is a long way from the Holy Land. If you want to conquer the Holy Land you have to rebuild the Temple on Mt. Moriah, till then the Dome of the Rock will always be a symbol of defeat to the jews. If you want to know who really won the 6 Day War, take a look at the Dome of the Rock. The muslim know this and that is why they riot and rush to repel the infidel on the temple mount and make up stories about 1 or 2 radical jews going to rebuild the temple all by themselves.
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posted on Jun, 25 2012 @ 03:45 AM
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Sonny...I agree with you and what I and others see right now is PUTIN attempting to get a lock on power in Russia by employing the tactic of using the current U.S./Russia Military imbalance as a way to get the older folks who remember a time when the Soviet Union was a Force no to be triffled with and was respected.

Those days are LONG GONE....and when the U.S. reached out to Russia...they at first took our hand as we helped dismantle thousands of Nuclear Weapons in Former Soviet Territories which would not allow the Russians to get these Nukes Back.

Then came the Polish Land Based ABM system which was to use Russian Radar as well as another base and radar system in the Czech Republic. Russian Techs were to be on site of this ABM launch area in Poland and there was a deal for the U.S. and Russia to Co-Develop a better system. PUTIN...made the claim...which is ridiculous...that this small ABM system could be used on Russian ICBM's which number in the thousands and a few ABM's were designed to protect Europe as well as Russia from a Middle Eastern Launch. Putin made such an issue of it...the U.S. backed out of the deployment which saddened the Poles who had been under Soviet Control for so long.

The TRUE reason of why the U.S. backed out was explained to the Poles as we have promised POLAND to be under our current ABM NET as well as the FEL...Free Electron Laser Net once fully deployed. The Russians could have been a part of this as the Current SM-3 has surpassed expectations but it is the FEL that Russia truly lost out on. Even though just a few FEL's are operational...and the full system will be installed in all U.S. Carriers and Aegis Class Cruisers with their own Nuclear Power Source...the FEL system with it's Satellite Over the Horizon Specialized Target and Acquisition Systems...is BEYOND the capabilities of any and all nations to counter.

Please read up on it as it is the ULTIMATE WEAPONS SYSTEM and has the U.S. completely changing their plans for Force Projection. I cannot state just how powerful this system is even now never mind fully deployed and Russia could have been a Partner...but now they are just so far behind that it is no longer even a joke. The Chinese were INFORMED of the U.S. intention to deploy the FEL and China has decided that there is no sense in developing any large Blue Water Naval Force given the FEL's capabilities. If you have noticed...there has been virtually no more threats about Taiwan and the Chinese have Helped reign in North Korea.

China is smart...they know that to confront the U.S. Military is folly so better to be a Good Business Partner than an enemy. Russia is still hanging on to day's gone by and Putin and his ex-KGB Cronies are Bleeding Russia Dry! He is the problem not Russia's solution. Split Infinity



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