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Originally posted by TheRedneck
reply to post by frazzle
Actually...
There is still such a concept as private property, subject only to legal intervention in the case of a crime. That problem is more with relinquishment of the property rights piecemeal over time. As an example, my property has lost its mineral rights, but nothing else. No law applies to my use of the property so long as I do not interfere with others use of their property or commit a crime on my property. There are also some restrictions that are simply common sense: if someone knocks on your front door, even if they walked past a "No Trespassing" sign, you can't legally shoot through the door (unless you can prove they are in the process of breaking in with intent to do bodily harm).
Municipalities, when they annex an area, receive certain rights to manage use of the property through ordinances and zoning regulations. No property may be annexed without approval by the owner.
Subdivisions, when created, relegate a great deal of the property rights to a controlling authority. This is done by the owner of the land in the process of subdivision.
Mineral rights can be purchased from the owner. My Dad sold ours when I was young.
Whenever you buy land, you are buying whatever the previous owner owned. If the land was ever annexed, subdivided, or if certain restrictions such as easements were ever granted, that loss of rights is perpetual. So someone can buy property, own the property, but still be subject to someone else telling them what they can and cannot do on that property, all because a previous owner had given up those ownership rights.
TheRedneck
Originally posted by TheRedneck
reply to post by frazzle
Whenever you buy land, you are buying whatever the previous owner owned. If the land was ever annexed, subdivided, or if certain restrictions such as easements were ever granted, that loss of rights is perpetual. So someone can buy property, own the property, but still be subject to someone else telling them what they can and cannot do on that property, all because a previous owner had given up those ownership rights.
TheRedneck
Originally posted by TheRedneck
reply to post by frazzle
It might vary by state... I know around here, if you do not agree to the annexation, there is no annexation. That's not to say the powers that be won't use every dirty underhanded trick they can to get you to agree...
And of course, once they get that power, they can use it as they see fit, including changing the rules.
My condolences on your loss.
TheRedneck
Originally posted by Aktivate
As a construction worker I see alot of immigrants on job sites. All I can say is they bust their A$#3S to get to where they are now. Most of the people I speak to have a pretty incredible story to tell and work much harder than your average american. I have a friend on the job who moved to CT to save money for when he returns to Mexico in the next 3 years, he lives on the bare minimum as far as daily requirements go, lives with alot of other people, never gets to see his immediate family, and can put up drywall faster than anyone I know.
Just because they arent Americans doesnt mean they are lazy crimninals. Most work much harder than average joe and their purpose is almost humbling.
Originally posted by Kujo427
I agree on a few things here.. But there are things that are just wrong-
First of all it's too vague- you talk about immigrants, as if that's not what this country is based on..
# two, let's be honest, you're talking specifically about latin immigrants- that's ignorant and almost racist in my opinion..
Americans love to find someone/thing to put the blame on instead of taking responsiblity..
BTW, I'm a legal american immigrant living in france, so i have a better understanding for people moving to another country- leaving everything behind, speaking another language, the job market is different, etc-
taxes too- americans can shut up on complaining about them cuz next to european countries, they really don't pay much! immigrants- illegal or not are paying some sort of tax- SALES TAX at the minimum (except in oregon)..
cutting it short my headache is splitting- would love to elaborate more
Originally posted by Aktivate
I have a friend on the job who moved to CT to save money for when he returns to Mexico in the next 3 years, he lives on the bare minimum as far as daily requirements go, lives with alot of other people, never gets to see his immediate family, and can put up drywall faster than anyone I know.
Just because they arent Americans doesnt mean they are lazy crimninals. Most work much harder than average joe and their purpose is almost humbling.
Originally posted by OutKast Searcher
After reading the reply after reply in immigration threads from American citizens that are very against immigrants (some with vile hatred)...I think I know what the problem is.
Some American citizens fear competition from immigrants because they know the immigrants will win hands down in the job market.
The immigrants are more driven, harder working, and in a lot of cases smarter than these American citizens who are complaining about them. But they can't admit that...because of their American ego...so they just go with that these immigrants are criminals, stupid, and lazy....even though it just isn't true.
These immigrants come here to WORK their asses off to provide a better life for their children. Their children see all their parents have done for them and in turn they WORK their asses off to become successful in this country. They come with one goal...to WORK.
The Americans in this immigration threads that are complaining about these immigrants are just scared because they know they can't compete with them...because in fact they are the lazy ones...they want the job that gives them everything for doing nothing...they want to get paid a ton of money for little work...they aren't willing to sacrifice to give their children a better life...they want it NOW and they want it for THEMSELVES.
Immigrants aren't lazy, they risk their life in most cases just to get here. They'll take a job that gives them little for doing more work in a day than most people do in a week. They just want to get paid a little money to feed their family (regardless if they live here or in another country). They are willing to sacrifice to give their children a better life. They will do without now, so their children and family can have better later.
What we see here is the difference between two types of people, this subgroup of Americans that hate immigrants because they feel ENTITLED to be successful just because they are a citizen. And we have the immigrants who feel DETERMINED to be successful despite if they are a citizen or not.
That is what it all comes down to...it isn't about breaking the law...it isn't about speaking a different language (well...maybe for some)...it is about ENTITLEMENT vs DETERMINATION.
Originally posted by metatronobody
Lets not forget that every "American" is an immigrant, child, grand child of one. America wouldnt be and is nothing without immigrants who are the living energy of the Corporate machine that is America. Those who consider themselves true Americans have nothing to be proud of as the land you claim as your own was stolen and paid for by blood and innocence of the true ancestors of this land.. true Native Americans.
Originally posted by buddhasystem
Originally posted by metatronobody
Lets not forget that every "American" is an immigrant, child, grand child of one. America wouldnt be and is nothing without immigrants who are the living energy of the Corporate machine that is America. Those who consider themselves true Americans have nothing to be proud of as the land you claim as your own was stolen and paid for by blood and innocence of the true ancestors of this land.. true Native Americans.
Yeah well what a naive thing to say...
Most of territories in the world are currently populated by people who at some point in the past (sometimes distant, sometimes recent) conquered the land and took it from somebody else... So, duh...