Originally posted by OutKast Searcher
No...by definition a country does not own "private" property.
Words mean things....public and private are two different things.
Where is that definition? Then go hangout in a military base or the Pentagon if the government doesn't own any property. The point is all
governments claim to own land and exercise their authority to keep outsiders out of their land. Otherwise, there would be total anarchy and would be
no such thing as borders and nations.
On a side note, the "public" owns stock in things like Fannie mae, General Motors, etc. Is everyone in the world entitled to ownership of these as
This is "my" country as much as it is "yours"...I'm welcoming them into "our" land...what makes you think that means I should house them
or feed them or clothe them?
I'm inviting them in to give them an opportunity to work and better themselves...not to provide for them.
I am lazier than most of them...I didn't say I'm not successful. They can keep whatever they earn...and I'll do the same...why do you seem to have
such a problem with that.
Exactlly! Your ok with allowing them on "our land" just not "your land". What right do you have to welcome people onto property that is not
entirely yours? In other words, your moral obligation to allow these people to better themselves stops when it hits to close to home.
And I'm not claiming you said to provide for them. I'm saying your argument is that they should be allowed to break the law because they need
things for themselves and family and they work really hard. I'm saying you admit they work harder than you and apparently they have a great need for
their families, so they should be entitled to all of your stuff.
You say you'll keep what you earned. I say you didn't earn it. You admit they work harder than you, so the only reason that you are more
successful than them is because of the situation you where born into.
Now thats not how I feel, but thats how you claim it should be. You say the US is about freedom and people shouldn't be left out just because they
werent born here.
So put your money where your mouth is and stop telling other people they have to allow illegals on our collective land and give them your land which
they deserve more than you.
Really...do you think it is ok for kids to play at a public park??? How about in your house???
Do you see how dumb that argument is...but I can tell you really think you have a good one...so keep on trying.
Lets use that example. Your saying that the government should have no right to regulate anyone entering the public park. So if a bunch of
undocumented illegals want to go to the park, will you let your kids play there?
Keep in mind unlike citizens of this country, you have no way of knowing the criminal history of any of these people is.
On your point, I think that legal citizens should be allowed to use that park, and no I wouldn't want them in my house. The difference is all of
those legal citizens have part ownership of that public park, and I have no right to keep owners out of it, whereas they don't own my land so I
don't have to let them in.
Your saying that because you are part owner of this public park as a legal citizen, you have the right to tell all of the other owners that they have
to let anyone in. I'm saying if you have the nerve to tell others to let illegals on land they part own, why don't you let them on property you
Where did I say that?
Where did I ask anyone to help them?
They come here to work...and they are harder workers than most Americans...so in a time of high unemployment...they still have jobs.
I never asked anyone to help them...you are just making things up now because your other "private vs public" argument is so weak.
You asked people to allow them to break the law because they are good people and hard workers. If a police officer, judge etc. would allow me to
break the law so that I could get work, I would say they "helped" me out.
I dont understand why you don't think government has the right to protect its borders but somehow you have the right to have your own personal
borders and protect them.
It seems to me that you want the government and other people to allow them on their land but your unwilling to do so yourself.