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Originally posted by OutKast Searcher
The immigrants are more driven, harder working, and in a lot of cases smarter than these American citizens who are complaining about them.
It has nothing to do with prejudice, and everything to do with the screwy way our federal government cherry-picks what laws to enforce. It has nothing to do with hatred, and everything to do with people here who are here illegally, taking jobs away from people who are here legally.
Do you not see that illegals are invisible under the law, so they will take any wage, thereby driving down the wages for EVERYBODY in this country? Do you not see that an illegal willing to work for $3 an hour will be picked over a citizen who has a right to be paid minimum wage? Isn't it obvious who is pushing this agenda and who fattens their bottom line by hiring illegal labor? It is not a question of laziness, as I have seen illegals lazier than an old dog on a hot day, and very hard working Americans..
Most Americans don't like the illegal angle, and the fact that these "undocumented visitors" do not come here to assimilate, they come here to milk what they can. It is a drain on the system and it is a gross abuse of our services. There is nothing to like or respect about that.
You are entitled to your opinion, but that is all it is. Your opinion....and as far as I'm concerned, not one based in reality.
Originally posted by dakota1s2
reply to post by OutKast Searcher
Americans do not hate immigrants. Most of us are immigrants ourselves. This is what I hate.
1) immigrants are being used for political purposes.
2) legal immigration vs illegal.
If immigrants wish to come, then do it legally. I do not fear competition. They will not outwork me.
3) I also don't like that I have to pay for their medical care, when I struggle to pay for my own and I don't like having to pay for their food and rent.
Originally posted by OutKast Searcher
Instead of focusing on the hard working immigrants...you bring up violent criminals and drug runners as if they are the norm.
some Americans want to paint a negative picture of immigrants, and I think it is because you and others fear that they are better workers than you and you can't compete with them in the job market.
I cannot work for less than $7.25 an hour, even if I want to. Illegal immigrants can, because they are already breaking the law and "on the lam".
Illegal immigrants have no home, no roots, no ties to the community; I do. Their wages can include room and board (20 people to a house?) while I already have my house (and most have a house payment).
Illegal immigrants do not have to file taxes. Some do, I know, but not the ones who are unfairly working for below minimum wage... to do so is a guarantee they will be removed from their job and probably deported!
Illegal immigrant employers do not have to worry about discrimination lawsuits, labor laws, OSHA, or a host of other government regulations that I am subject to.
It is illegal, and allowing some to break a law while not allowing all to break the law is unfair and unjust.
An unlevel economic playing field.
The disrespect of changing a local language that has existed just fine for over 200 years.
The undocumented may well be undesirables... true terrorists, felons, insurgents, criminals.We don't know because there is no chance to find out.
A struggling economy already means precious resources and jobs we cannot spare at this time are being given to those who simply waded across a ditch, because they waded across a ditch.
The concern that the explosion in population may damage our infrastructure, because it was not designed to handle such an influx.
The lack of reciprocity from the country the illegals are coming from.
Originally posted by OutKast Searcher
The legal status shouldn't matter if the legal worker is a better worker than the illegal worker.
Originally posted by OutKast Searcher
Illegal immigrants come here out of determination to work and better their families....
Originally posted by OutKast Searcher
Originally posted by dakota1s2
reply to post by OutKast Searcher
Americans do not hate immigrants. Most of us are immigrants ourselves. This is what I hate.
1) immigrants are being used for political purposes.
2) legal immigration vs illegal.
If immigrants wish to come, then do it legally. I do not fear competition. They will not outwork me.
3) I also don't like that I have to pay for their medical care, when I struggle to pay for my own and I don't like having to pay for their food and rent.
I honestly don't care about legal vs illegal immigration.
Illegal immigrants come here out of determination to work and better their families...not because they are criminals like people try to paint them as.
I don't like to pay for our government bombing other countries...but I really don't have a say. And I'm sure the numbers you hear about how much a "drain" illegals are on society are completely false...since most come from false chain emails like this: www.factcheck.org...
But people tend to claim they don't have a problem with "legal" immigrants...but why? I honestly think it is because they know how incredibly hard and expensive it is to become a "legal" immigrant...so they know the volume is going to be extremely low and the competition from them is going to be extremely low.
I have often said...if it is just the "illegal" factor that people don't like....then let's make it extremely easy to come here legally. Sign a paper at the border...get a work permanent work permit with a tax ID...problem solved.
But no...people who are agianst "illegals" are also against a program like that...because the competition would be too much and they know they can't compete with a determined hard worker.
The only problem with your theory is that ALL illegal immigrants are criminals because they are here breaking the law and not going through the LEGAL process!!!!! That makes them criminals!
Originally posted by Alxandro
reply to post by OutKast Searcher
Just because you are capable of knee jerk hatred, doesn't mean everyone else is too.
It's not about hate, it's about everything Flyers Fan and Redneck mentioned.
Plus it's also about the diseases they bring in to this country, case in point, that newfangled AIDS virus.
There was a time when immigrants were turned away at Ellis Island for having a freaking cavity, now they are just allowed to simply walk in and turn this country into the country they are leaving behind.
Where is the logic in this?
What's wrong with this picture?