Originally posted by Kali74
reply to post by ThirdEyeofHorus
Left isn't a dirty word no matter how much you try to make it so and to be honest I'm sick of your bigotry and your lazy and often delusional
I hope that in my own case at least, you're able to recognise that I wasn't saying that being Leftist was
something incriminating or
inherently negative, Kali.
My only issue is when there is a tendency to implicitly
view things through a strongly Marxist lens, and then try to claim that being
pro-unionist (as one example) isn't necessarily a Communist value, but that everybody
should be pro-unionist, universally, because
that's just the way things are.
In other words, there is a tendency for Occupy to associate social justice as a generic or universal concept, with values that primarily exist or are
talked about within the Marxist paradigm specifically;
which therefore subsequently implies that social justice cannot exist without
As I've also said, however, this is usually implicit or unconscious. Most Occupiers are sufficiently deeply steeped in Marx' ideology that it is
completely automatic for them to have that view of reality. They don't deserve to be attacked for it, but I think they do
need to have
it pointed out.
If, hypothetically speaking, I went to an Occupy event, and the majority of the people there were
radical anarcho-Communists, I'd want
to know about it. The reason why I need to know about it, is so that I can engage in informed consent about whether or not to stay or participate.
In some cases, I might genuinely think, "Great! Here's some Communists. I can have some really stimulating conversations with these people, and
can possibly come to a new understanding about some issues."
In other cases, however, depending on what it is they're doing, or even just how I'm feeling on a given day, I'm not necessarily going to want to
associate with that particular group.
The bottom line is that I need honest, accurate information in order to be able to make decisions about what I want to do.