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posted on Jun, 20 2012 @ 11:42 PM
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posted on Jun, 20 2012 @ 11:48 PM
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Black holes doesn't exist.Black holes are a pseudoscience.



posted on Jun, 21 2012 @ 01:42 AM
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Originally posted by ludwigvonmises003
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Black holes doesn't exist.Black holes are a pseudoscience.


WOW! And exactly how did you come to this conclusion considering that we have a GIGANTIC AMOUNT OF DATA....actual PICTURES of a Binary Star having one of the two stars gravitational effect RIPPING THE OTHER STARS Stellar Material...primarily Gasses of Hydrogen and Helium...into the Binary Star of Greater mass and as since nearly ALL STARS are PAIRS of ORBITING BINARY STARS....there are many Black Holes in the Universe.

Once one of the Two Binary Stars reaches a point of which so much Stellar Material has been removed...it will either go Nova or possibly become one Black Hole.

Stars of all types are so far from the Earth that, even with the most powerful telescopes, astronomers only see them as points of light rather than resolved (like we see our Sun). However, astronomers are very good at getting the most information out of light that they can (they have to be --- most of the time they can't visit the objects they study).

Let's look at Cyg X-1, a binary with a black hole and a supergiant star. The name means "the first X-ray source found in the constellation Cygnus." This is a famous black hole system in our galaxy. It is 7.4 x 1016 kilometers (4.8 x 1016 miles) from Earth, and light takes over 8,000 years to get from Cyg X-1 to us!

X-ray spectrum of black hole X-ray binary Cyg X-. The data were fit with a model that has multiple parts: the hot accretion disk, a thin and hot corona around the accretion disk, and light reflected off the accretion disk. Image credit Gierlinski et al. (1999)
You can't see Cyg X-1 with your eyes. You can't even see the supergiant star the black hole orbits with an amateur telescope. Why not, aren't supergiant stars really bright? It's true the supergiant is over six times more luminous than the star Deneb (and over 360,000 times more luminous than our Sun). However, Cyg X-1 is so much further away that it appears almost 1,200 times fainter than Deneb.

At the center of every Galaxy lies a Massive Black Hole that is responsible for the 100's of BILLIONS of SOLAR SYSTEMS that orbit around them.

Where in the world or why would you doubt provable evidence in MASS?

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posted on Jun, 21 2012 @ 01:49 AM
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Actually ,the universe is an electrical one.Gravity is an force much weaker than electricity. I suggest you read the electric universe cosmological data.

www.wired.com...


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The black hole is a choice example where all three steps have failed. In the first step, gravity is the only tool considered. For example, from a graduate textbook on astrophysics*: “No known physical force can stop the self-swallowing of mass that makes a black hole.” That is a model-dependent declaration. The force of gravity is effectively zero when compared to the electric force. If you allow for the electrical structure of matter, the almost 2,000 fold difference in mass of the electron and proton will ensure that in a strong gravitational field charge separation will operate to prevent compression. Charge separation prevents the collapse of stars. Exotic theoretical objects like neutron stars and black holes are impossible. Even internal nuclear fires are unnecessary to sustain a star. The standard model of stars fails if the wrong tool, gravity, is used exclusively.

In the second step, one infinity is used to counter another. Infinities abound in the literature on black holes. The infinitely weak force of gravity is balanced by postulating an almost infinitely dense object – the black hole. Playing with infinities like this can give you any result you desire. It sidesteps the fact that we do not understand the real nature of gravity, or the relationship between mass and matter, or the electrical response of matter to gravity, or the electrical nature of the universe. That’s a great deal of ignorance to be swallowed up, even by a hypothetical black hole!
www.holoscience.com...

X ray bursts are examples of new stars or planets being produced by electrical fissioning



posted on Jun, 21 2012 @ 02:42 AM
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You have alot of things that you cannot account for in this Theory such as even though it is called THE WEAK FORCE...GRAVITY IS NOT A FORCE AT ALL....it is Space/Time Geometry. If it were not then using your model...Photons or LIGHT would not be effected by Gravity...they are as Light will warp around any celestial object of sufficient mass as ell as be caught in a Black Holes Gravity Well.

Google Abell 1689 as well as Abell 2218...both galactic Clusters that Warp Space to such an extent that in Abell 2218 a Galaxy that is 13 Billion Light Years away is Gravitic Lensed to a point that it is projected more than once in a Gravity Created Telescope.
Split Infinity



posted on Jun, 21 2012 @ 02:44 AM
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Sure thats your belief.When the fundamental basics are wrong,then conclusions are wrong too. And there is a lot of criticism of gravitational lensing.

Krauss’s answer: Hawking’s riddle is a trick question. Due to the relative nature of time under Einstein’s general theory, time should stop at the event horizon. Anything that approaches, therefore, should come to a halt before it falls into the black hole, effectively preventing the black hole from forming in the first place.

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posted on Jun, 21 2012 @ 02:58 AM
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This is true since a Black Hole...or a Singularity thus being an expression of ONE DIMENSIONALITY....in which all Time is concurrent since there is no distance. Split Infinity



posted on Jun, 21 2012 @ 03:03 AM
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There is no photographical evidence for black holes. Electricity is an force way stronger to Gravity.

This small amount is consistent with predictions that the momentum and energy of the process by which the star is consumed would fling most of the star’s gas away from the black hole.

Comment: A major adjustment of the black hole model was required to explain how matter could be flung out in polar jets at near light speed from an object from which there was supposed to be no escape. As usual, magnetism was called upon to rescue the gravitational model. No mention was made about the electric currents required to produce the magnetic fields.

One puzzle was how the jets can maintain their narrow trajectory over a million light years. The Chandra x-ray astronomy website offers this: “The best bet at this point is that a tightly coiled magnetic field is spun out with the particles. One team of scientists exploring this line of reasoning has concluded that black holes may be the primary source of magnetic energy in the universe. This could be highly significant because, as is known from observations of solar flares, magnetic energy can readily change into other forms of energy.” It is quite strange to witness this blind-spot that does not allow astrophysicists to see that magnetism is a secondary effect of electric current, and not a primary cause. The most simple method of creating a filamentary, glowing jet in plasma is to cause an electric discharge through it. Novelty store plasma balls show the effect clearly. Plasma physicists note that plasma filamentation is known to occur over at least 14 orders of magnitude of current, from microamperes to multi-megaamperes.
www.holoscience.com...



posted on Jun, 21 2012 @ 07:58 AM
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It is not strange that people make up stuff to push hoaxes. It is strange that when wild statements are made people do not check to see if the named scientists actually exist.



posted on Jun, 21 2012 @ 08:07 AM
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Actually ,the universe is an electrical one.Gravity is an force much weaker than electricity. I suggest you read the electric universe cosmological data.

The electric universe is a giant failure. It does not even explain our solar system let along the unverse as we see it.


The infinitely weak force of gravity

Typical falsehood that comes from the EU group.

What is very weak is any magnetic or electric field in the solar system. Around the Earth the magnetic field is measured in nanoTesla. Here at the surface the magnetic field can barely move a compass needle.


X ray bursts are examples of new stars or planets being produced by electrical fissioning

That's a new laughable claim from the EU group for me.



posted on Jun, 21 2012 @ 08:12 AM
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There is no photographical evidence for black holes. Electricity is an force way stronger to Gravity.

That is only part of the story. Gravity is cumulative. Electric and magnetic force are not. The plus and minuses balance each other out which is why the Earth exhibits almost no electric field. But gravity, the Earth's gravitational field is strong.


A major adjustment of the black hole model was required to explain how matter could be flung out in polar jets at near light speed from an object from which there was supposed to be no escape.

You are mistaken here. The matter never crosses the event horizon.



posted on Jun, 21 2012 @ 10:54 PM
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There concept of the tightly wound jet as a Magnetic Field being Directed at such speeds is consistent with a Black Holes High Velocity Spin of it's Great amount of Mass. This produces a PLASMA beam from each of the Black Holes Poles.

Earth also produces a Magnetic Field but in a different Form that being the Earths Molten Interior Metallic core that spins produces the Earths Magnetic Field which protects the Earth from Particle Bombardment from the Sun or Cosmic Waves. The Black Hole is spinning at a far greater velocity than Earth and since the Black Hole's immense mass warps Space/Time to such a degree...Jets of Plasma...Ionized Gas...shoot out fro the Black Holes Magnetic Poles at Fantastic Rates as well as power.

Yes...I know that Electromagnetics is a Strong Force but Gravity although Known as the Weak Force...is not a Force at all. These words are used as a way to help people understand something that can not be visualized.
Split Infinity



posted on Jun, 21 2012 @ 11:18 PM
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Originally posted by ludwigvonmises003
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Sure thats your belief.When the fundamental basics are wrong,then conclusions are wrong too. And there is a lot of criticism of gravitational lensing.

Krauss’s answer: Hawking’s riddle is a trick question. Due to the relative nature of time under Einstein’s general theory, time should stop at the event horizon. Anything that approaches, therefore, should come to a halt before it falls into the black hole, effectively preventing the black hole from forming in the first place.

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edit on 21-6-2012 by ludwigvonmises003 because: (no reason given)


Oh hey, I see we have a EU guy in our midst.

Love that last paragraph. I would agree that anything approaching the event horizon will come to a halt, as observed from the outside of it. For the actual thing approaching the event horizon, it won't notice anything, even when it crosses the event horizon.

But as for it keeping black holes from forming, sorry this should make anyone laugh out loud, mainly because:

the event horizon doesn't exist until the black hole forms.

You can't have something stop something from forming when that something can't exist until AFTER the something has formed.
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posted on Jun, 21 2012 @ 11:30 PM
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You could go find Terral Croft. He would know what to do immediately.


sorry, I couldn't resist



posted on Jun, 21 2012 @ 11:40 PM
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Well the black hole theorists are here with their pseudo science propaganda.Occam's razor is good evidence for electric universe and electric universe explains all anomalies in a much easier way.

Electricity is a force several magnitudes stronger than gravity.When your assumptions are wrong,the conclusions will be wrong too.

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posted on Jun, 21 2012 @ 11:41 PM
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In high temperatures ,iron loses its magnetism.Has it occured to you that the earth's core could be plasma based.



posted on Jun, 21 2012 @ 11:43 PM
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Krauss is an mainstream physicist .His link was from wired. Please explain your black hole BS propaganda.There is no photographic evidence for black holes and mathematical pseudo science is used to justify them.



posted on Jun, 21 2012 @ 11:49 PM
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posted on Jun, 21 2012 @ 11:51 PM
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Plasma gun has similiar manifestations.



posted on Jun, 21 2012 @ 11:57 PM
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Electric and magnetic force are not. The plus and minuses balance each other out which is why the Earth exhibits almost no electric field. But gravity, the Earth's gravitational field is strong.


the earth's magnetosphere and ionosphere have electric charge.





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