BREAKING: US enlists Britain's help to stop ship 'carrying Russian attack helicopters' to Syria

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posted on Jun, 17 2012 @ 07:54 PM
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BREAKING: US enlists Britain's help to stop ship 'carrying Russian attack helicopters' to Syria


www.telegraph.co.uk

The US government has enlisted Britain's help in a bid to stop a ship suspected of carrying Russian attack helicopters and missiles to conflict-riven Syria, The Sunday Telegraph can reveal.

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posted on Jun, 17 2012 @ 07:54 PM
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I understand this Syrian/Russian deal went down last year to repair and return their helicopters but even Russia must know this isn't the time to have these returned.

Putin knows Assad WILL fall in time, so why so pushy to return this. In deviance? To keep good terms because that's where their only Russia port outside of Russia is?

Very dangerous stuff if they want to stop this ship.

www.telegraph.co.uk
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posted on Jun, 17 2012 @ 08:00 PM
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Silly Russians, Only the US is allowed to sell arms to foreign counties.
Now if they cut us in on the profits we may be able to work out a deal.
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posted on Jun, 17 2012 @ 08:11 PM
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I really don't trust the wester media on this Syria thing. I think it's just like Libya. Western countries, or allies, are giving weapons to these "rebels" and they are destroying the country. I don't think Assad is good at alll, but it's not a civil war over there. Assad is not a good man, but letting a country fall into chaos isn't the answer. We are destabilizing the entire region. How many terrorist networks will there be in the next decade? There will be a huge free for all no borders battlefield in the mideast and middleeastern terrorism will become a real problem.

A friend of mine and I had a discussion this time last year. It was just before they got Ghaddaffi. We were talking about who the next boogey man would be and we decided it would be Assad. Fast forward one year.



posted on Jun, 17 2012 @ 08:19 PM
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Beat you too it,post here www.abovetopsecret.com...



posted on Jun, 17 2012 @ 08:26 PM
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Technically if the insurance cover of the ship is cancelled then it cannot travel via english channel. If so, then ship can take another route as simple as that.

US is trying very hard to find a reason to mess with others. That is not a good idea always.



posted on Jun, 17 2012 @ 08:26 PM
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Originally posted by GogoVicMorrow
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I really don't trust the wester media on this Syria thing. I think it's just like Libya. Western countries, or allies, are giving weapons to these "rebels" and they are destroying the country. I don't think Assad is good at alll, but it's not a civil war over there. Assad is not a good man, but letting a country fall into chaos isn't the answer. We are destabilizing the entire region. How many terrorist networks will there be in the next decade? There will be a huge free for all no borders battlefield in the mideast and middleeastern terrorism will become a real problem.

A friend of mine and I had a discussion this time last year. It was just before they got Ghaddaffi. We were talking about who the next boogey man would be and we decided it would be Assad. Fast forward one year.



GREAT response.


Originally posted by 13th Zodiac
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Think we can have it in more than one forum. If not, MODS, you may move it.



Imagine if Russia stopped a US Ship going to deliver # to afghanistan or iraq? lol.

Beat you too it,post here www.abovetopsecret.com...







posted on Jun, 17 2012 @ 08:55 PM
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Originally posted by CALGARIAN


I understand this Syrian/Russian deal went down last year to repair and return their helicopters but even Russia must know this isn't the time to have these returned.

Putin knows Assad WILL fall in time, so why so pushy to return this. In deviance? To keep good terms because that's where their only Russia port outside of Russia is?

Very dangerous stuff if they want to stop this ship.

www.telegraph.co.uk
(visit the link for the full news article)


Putin is likely itching for this conflict as much as the US/UK.

In fact, there's very little reason to assume they are actually opposed to each other. They could easily be working in cahoots. War is a racket and all that. I wouldn't be surprised in the least if Putin (or whoever he actually works for) was working hand-in-hand with the west to escalate this situation.

I'm not saying that's what I think is happening. I'm just saying it's worth considering. This notion that the 'west' is the only bad guy at work here is likely faulty logic. Assad's a Putin puppet and is desperately clinging to power. Russia needs Syria's strategic positioning, which is why the west wants it too; to have it for themselves and deny russia access to it.



posted on Jun, 17 2012 @ 09:00 PM
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Its quite simple to predict what is going to happen. Anyone who has played a game of 'RISK' know what I am talking about. Look at the map of Iran, then look at the surrounding countries. Most countries now have American bases due to the middle east wars. The last countries are Saudi Arabia and Pakistan which may already be allies and last but not least, Syria. They must overtake syria first as to cut off Russian and China from land anf air assaults as these to countries will come to Irans aid.

The Russians are your run of the mill street hajis
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posted on Jun, 17 2012 @ 09:01 PM
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These arms look more like tools to stop an invasion rather than domestic rebels



posted on Jun, 17 2012 @ 09:15 PM
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i sure hope russia will hold their ground and that it'll prevent the west from moving into syria. unfortunately, the stage seems to be already set, with clinton saying that assad has to leave. don't get it wrong, it's all BS just like it was with libya. they're destabilizing the country to move in, it's not assad's fault. it's cia.

and, ffs, when will they learn to think before posting. that helicopter belongs to the polish army.



posted on Jun, 17 2012 @ 09:40 PM
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FFS, is Syria really worth risking a major war with Russia.
Man, there seriously HAS to be more going on than a simple civil war for things to go this far



posted on Jun, 17 2012 @ 09:42 PM
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Originally posted by ModernAcademia
These arms look more like tools to stop an invasion rather than domestic rebels


No. Surface to air missiles and the like are good for that, which Russia is also supplying Syria with.

But helicopters work well for attacking soldiers already on the ground and moving your troops around strategically.



posted on Jun, 17 2012 @ 09:42 PM
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Originally posted by 13th Zodiac
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Beat you too it,post here www.abovetopsecret.com...






Two threads on the same topic are allowed if one is in the "breaking news" forum



posted on Jun, 17 2012 @ 09:44 PM
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Originally posted by jedi_hamster
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and, ffs, when will they learn to think before posting. that helicopter belongs to the polish army.


Good catch! Probably just some nitwit at the telegraph who used a stock photo.

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posted on Jun, 17 2012 @ 09:54 PM
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Putin should be foolish to want to fight with the US. However US is very eager to fight with Russia. The reason: F22s. This plane is a game changer and Russia or China do not have any answer to this plane at the moment. Russian version comes out in 2015-2017. That's why US is in a hurry.

Does Russia have any secret technologies that US does not know about. Knowing Russian psychology one would say they should have more than a few. But knowing Russian deeds and demeanor, one can easily say that even what they project to have should be reduced by half. Phantom power and deceptive projection of strength.



posted on Jun, 17 2012 @ 09:59 PM
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I pretty much agree. But I think Putin probably stands to gain something from a conflict with the West as well. t will allow him to coalesce more power in a time of war. ALL leaders seem to enjoy that sort of thing.



posted on Jun, 17 2012 @ 11:18 PM
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Originally posted by jedi_hamster
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and, ffs, when will they learn to think before posting. that helicopter belongs to the polish army.


They dont' say that helicopter is Syrian - they don'' actually say anything specific about it at all.

but it is a Mi-24/25, which is the type being shipped back to Syria.
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posted on Jun, 17 2012 @ 11:21 PM
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Yep,that is a picture of a Russian made Hind D. Awesome helicopter, way above the Apache.
Ive flown them many times...
In CoD Black Ops
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posted on Jun, 17 2012 @ 11:52 PM
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Russia will not back down i believe...............
The west will get its war......the international cartels will all get richer, and more of us will die or be maimed.....
Would be sweet if we could get all the participants to throw down the guns and just go home.........
My Idea for such a weapon is already in production, but it just needs scaling up, and deploying out in space where it can cover whole battlefields.....
Operators could micro wave entire areas, and the soldiers would immediately drop their guns and run for cover to escape the rays....
The funny part is its kinda of harmless, and it doesnt really penetrate you deep enough to even hurt you, just makes you feel like you are on fire man.....................all you can do is run away........
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