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Originally posted by hawkiye
Originally posted by petrus4
I am very disappointed by this. I was hoping that if Greece withdrew, the European Union would collapse.
The EU is one of five designated geographical zones, devised by individuals who want to implement global government. If the EU is a formal system failed, it would be a significant setback for such people, and as such, progress towards more genuine human self-determination.
I wouldn't worry to much Greece's problems are far from over this is just a temporary band-aid they still can't pay their debts and neither can anyone else.
Originally posted by bluemirage5
reply to post by hawkiye
You hit the nail right on the head; it's all going to come crashing down eventually and my bet that's in less than 2 years from now
Originally posted by thePharaoh
so the greeks are staying put...anyone shocked?
is anyone else out there begining to see that the "euro" is doing exactly what it is supposed to do
putting pressure on states to sell their assets....
let me explain what iv noticed:
before joining the euro......every country had their own debts.......
to give an example....greece borrows 200 million from timbuktu....and agreed to pay them back in 100 years.....just an example.....
now, when you join the euro, one day the central bank whisper in your ear:
"sort out your debts...better sooner than later"...."its all uncertain"
and force you to sort out 100 years of debts overnight.....
what im saying is...they know greeces situation BEFORE it joined the euro...
is forcing them to hurry and sell its assets to rich germans....the right thing to do......looks like a scam...
bearing in mind "privatisation" is a dirty word in greece
that IMF womens shrugs and "uncertain" comments .....belguim needs to sort this out and pass a bill limiting austerity
anyway im not getting side tracked....the elections to watch are the egyptian ones....
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Originally posted by OccamsRazor04
How about we leave fantasy land and enter the land of facts.
Greece enters the EU in 1981.
Greek debt in 1981 was 31% of GDP.
Greek debt in 2012 is 159% of GDP.
Greece did not have this issue when they joined the EU, facts in no way support your theory.
Originally posted by haarlem
[I'm sure a lot of non-Greeks will be cheering for Greece to beat Germany in the European Cup also. A symbolic victory if ever there would be one.