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A critical challenge for this policy (American airstrikes) option is that, absent a clear Iranian act of aggression, American airstrikes against Iran would be unpopular in the region and throughout the world.
Especially in the absence of a clear Iranian provocation, averting this paradoxical danger would be a major task for U.S. diplomats in the run-up to such an air campaign.
The truth is that these all would be challenging cases to make. For that reason, it would be far more preferable if the United States could cite an Iranian provocation as justification for the airstrikes before launching them. Clearly, the more outrageous, the more deadly, and the more unprovoked the Iranian action, the better off the United States would be.
They would probably retaliate against Israel, and they might retaliate against the United States, too (which might create a pretext for American airstrikes or even an invasion).
The true objective of this policy option is to overthrow the clerical regime in Tehran and see it replaced, hopefully, by one whose views would be more compatible with U.S. interests in the region.
The United States could play multiple roles in facilitating a revolution. By funding and helping organize
domestic rivals of the regime, the United States could create an alternative leadership to seize power.
This requirement means that a popular revolution in Iran does not seem to fit the model of the “velvet revolutions” that occurred elsewhere. The biggest challenge to regime change would be its feasibility. For all its many shortcomings, the Iranian government is well entrenched.
Iran also has multiple centers of power, which would make a coup far harder to pull off than in 1953.
Consequently, any plan to aid a coup would first require a major effort to build up American intelligence on Iran,
which would itself be time consuming and difficult given the inherent nature of Iranian society
and the paranoia of the regime.
Efforts to promote regime change in Iran might be intended by the U.S. government as deliberate provocations to try to goad the Iranians into an excessive response that might then justify an American invasion.
Absent some dramatic Iranian provocation, it seems very unlikely that those same countries (Kuwait, Bahrain, Qatar, and Britain, in particular) would allow the United States to use those same facilities for an invasion of Iran, potentially further lengthening the time required for the invasion itself.
Originally posted by PLASIFISK
Ahhh hemm
What do you have planned to keep this from happening?
Do you think its Obama's doing, orrrrrr the US government's doing?
Dear Mr. President:
We are writing you because we are convinced that current American policy toward Iraq is not succeeding, and that we may soon face a threat in the Middle East more serious than any we have known since the end of the Cold War.
The policy of “containment” of Saddam Hussein has been steadily eroding over the past several months. As recent events have demonstrated, we can no longer depend on our partners in the Gulf War coalition to continue to uphold the sanctions or to punish Saddam when he blocks or evades UN inspections. Our ability to ensure that Saddam Hussein is not producing weapons of mass destruction, therefore, has substantially diminished.
Originally posted by shaluach
reply to post by Wonderer2012
F&S, Wonderer. Great post. I've been saying for a while now that some next major war is being planned. Iran does seem the likely candidate, but there are other options: Syria, Libya, Egypt. Obama claims to want troops out of Afghanistan by 2014, so I personally believe the time table for the start of the next American Crusade will be between 2014 and 2016. It doesn't matter if it's him or Romney in office. The groundwork is already being laid out.
The truth is that these all would be challenging cases to make. For that reason, it would be far more preferable if the United States could cite an Iranian provocation as justification for the airstrikes before launching them. Clearly, the more outrageous, the more deadly, and the more unprovoked the Iranian action, the better off the United States would be.
Originally posted by TritonTaranis
The US nore NATO will get involved in a War with Iran,
They will likely assist Israel in an air strike on Iran's nuclear weapons program should there be a need to but thats about it, there will not be a war or any troops being sent to Iran, mainly because all the reasons people claim they want to invade and occupy Iran are theory's based on misinfo, propaganda, & BS,
How at this point in time, can people still believe the Necons and Zionists are not pushing for war with Iran, they have spent millions on developing policy that can bring the war to being.
General Wesley Clark reveals the US plan to invade and take over 7 countries, Iraq, Syria, Lebanon, Lybia, Somalia, Sudan, And Iran, before we even invaded Afghanistan. The first part of the plan was revealed 10 days after 9/11 and was expanded to included the other nations. Clark is quoted as saying the invasion wasn't based on links to Al-Queda or any other intelligence reports but just because the US has an army that is great at taking over other nations.
Originally posted by Wonderer2012
Originally posted by TritonTaranis
The US nore NATO will get involved in a War with Iran,
They will likely assist Israel in an air strike on Iran's nuclear weapons program should there be a need to but thats about it, there will not be a war or any troops being sent to Iran, mainly because all the reasons people claim they want to invade and occupy Iran are theory's based on misinfo, propaganda, & BS,
As the document refers a few times, an Israeli airstrike would only increase Iran's push for a nuclear weapon, also Iran would see America as giving the 'green light.' The document hides nothing, it even notes America sends $3 billion annually in US tax payers money to fund Israel's military, so Iran would take an Israeli attack as an American attack- they even propose Iran using a terrorist attack against US or allies in response!
edit on 17-6-2012 by Wonderer2012 because: (no reason given)
Originally posted by TritonTaranis
Originally posted by Wonderer2012
Originally posted by TritonTaranis
The US nore NATO will get involved in a War with Iran,
They will likely assist Israel in an air strike on Iran's nuclear weapons program should there be a need to but thats about it, there will not be a war or any troops being sent to Iran, mainly because all the reasons people claim they want to invade and occupy Iran are theory's based on misinfo, propaganda, & BS,
As the document refers a few times, an Israeli airstrike would only increase Iran's push for a nuclear weapon, also Iran would see America as giving the 'green light.' The document hides nothing, it even notes America sends $3 billion annually in US tax payers money to fund Israel's military, so Iran would take an Israeli attack as an American attack- they even propose Iran using a terrorist attack against US or allies in response!
edit on 17-6-2012 by Wonderer2012 because: (no reason given)
I'm not saying that tho, Israel will only strike Iran when it has good Intel that Iran are close to developing its Nuclear Weapons, and will likely get western support for such a strike, but there will be no war with Iran that is almost certain, its totally pointless and would not get public backing the public doesn't have the stomach for another proxy war & there are bigger issues & threats to deal with, it will amount to nothing more than an Ariel campaign
This will likely be when there is good enough Intel of such sites and good Intel that Iran has enrichment uranium beyond 90% (nuclear weapons grade)
The US doesn't fund Israel to attack Iran it funds Israel to defend itself,
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Originally posted by PLASIFISK
What do you have planned to keep this from happening?
Do you think its Obama's doing, orrrrrr the US government's doing?
Originally posted by Wonderer2012
It's got not to do with government as such, it is the filth that controls and influences it.
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