How were the pyramids really built?

reply to post by Chargeit


The blocks are man made. That is no longer in dispute. As a poster pointed out much earlier..

A year and a half later, after extensive scanning electron microscope observations and other testing, Barsoum and his research group finally began to draw some conclusions about the pyramids. They found that the tiniest structures within the inner and outer casing stones were indeed consistent with a reconstituted limestone. The cement binding the limestone aggregate was either silicon dioxide (the building block of quartz) or a calcium and magnesium-rich silicate mineral.

The stones also had a high water content — unusual for the normally dry, natural limestone found on the Giza plateau — and the cementing phases, in both the inner and outer casing stones, were amorphous, in other words, their atoms were not arranged in a regular and periodic array. Sedimentary rocks such as limestone are seldom, if ever, amorphous

www.livescience.com...

Of course they were cast in place, but I searched the whole thread for the word geopolymer and came up dry. It was (is) a mixture of pulverized limestone broken up at the quarry into rock sizes convenient to be carried in baskets to the site, kaolin clay, lye, and water.
And yes, it hardens faster than Portland cement. A German company that was selling it in bags like cement advertized that if a runway were poured in L.A. and at the same time a 747 took off from New York an hour later one could drive a car on the runway and by the time the jumbo jet arrived the runway could withstand landing of the jet from New York. It can also be cast and harden underwater or in rubber molds to make statues, using aggregate other than limestone.

Here’s video demonstration of creating a pyramid block:

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Here’s a lecture:

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And a book:

www.amazon.com...

reply to post by Chargeit


I really am on the side of Christopher Dunn, there indeed were high speed drills, The obelisk can not be done, all the size and depth. on each side. But mainstream education is going to have to give on this, there is too much evidence. Some of the faces in the pyramid area, are much too exacting on each side to think otherwise.

There has to be a mechanical arm attached to a solid base in order to achieve such perfection.,
And as with an alien civilization that prizes their machinery, they do not want to leave their machinery behind.

Though I am not a unarian, a being called Nur El stated to Ernest Norman that they once established a colony on earth. I think it is something like that, they were on the planet on a temp basis and left. Some had families and stayed, thus you have the gods references. Plus, too many cultures seem to come from nowhere and can not be from just two beings such as Adam and Eve, just not possible. The facial features are too radical from different races!

Originally posted by georgemoseleylander
Also, consider, salt indicating the production of hydrogen has been found in the Queens chamber in the Great Pyramid.

Salt found in any limestone is the result of the stone being formed on the sea floor.

Why bring hydrogen into it?

The idea is silly. After all, how do you then account for the salt that is in the stone already?

Harte

Why bring evidence of hydrogen production into it?...Because that is how it was built.

The pyramids were NOT built with levers, pulleys etc.. Nor were the stones cut with saws. None of this would have worked.

Likewise, the pyramids would not have been built with alien technology. Occam's Razor rules this out as there is a way to do this. I did the maths and it was utterly stunning.

Instead, I am convinced that the original legends about Stonehenge, the Moai stones and the pyramids are based on truth and that they used existing, other technology that was around at the time. Looking in to this, and doing the maths has been stunning. My theorem requires 21.7 years, very close to the 22 years that history records and no use of any form of advanced technology EXCEPT possibly management skills. Indeed, If I am correct, the only big, yet still the biggest technology advance that any visiting aliens have ever given us was management..

Furthermore, all the evidence is there. Consider...

- Pyramids are always found near a limitless supply of wood (or at least was there at the time) and pigs.
- Stone circles are always found near the presence of horses and saline or corrupted water.
- In many ancient myths, such as Greek and Roman, the GOd of horses is also the God of the sea.
- Stone circles are nearly always found to have a close associated smaller circle, connected to it by stone ducts along the ground.
- Stone circles are usually magnetised.
- Stone circles all occur in north-western Europe, where the Westerlies arrive from Northern North America.
- Pyramids of South America are located where the trade wind from North Africa arrive in Central America.
- Ley lines not only connect ancient stone circles sites, but also run through high passes in the Alps.
- Mayan pyramids etc, have huge flat stone roads at the the core of their temple comples that are dead straight, whilst the Mayans have made no effort to put in even a paved footpath through the ANdes to reach the temple complexes in the first place.

To me, it is a no brainer that this confirms how they were able to build the pyramids.
- Puma Punka is sited close to vast deposits of Fluorspar.

- Pyramids are always found in the presence of

Actually, geopolymer can be sawed with a copper saw at a certain time during the curing process, and there are are saw marks on some stones of special shape in the Great Pyramid.

Originally posted by xpoq47
Actually, geopolymer can be sawed with a copper saw at a certain time during the curing process, and there are are saw marks on some stones of special shape in the Great Pyramid.

Not only can limestone be sawn using copper blades and sand, it can also be broken out of the quarry (please note, you can see this for yourself in Egypt) in the shape/size needed.

Obviously, some stones would have had to have been shaped. That is, sized. Also, the Tura limestone that covered the GP was absolutely sawn and carved.

The poster claiming "that wouldn't have worked" is just ignorant of the facts, such as the one you mentioned about saw marks.

Harte

Originally posted by georgemoseleylander

Mayan pyramids etc, have huge flat stone roads at the the core of their temple comples that are dead straight, whilst the Mayans have made no effort to put in even a paved footpath through the ANdes to reach the temple complexes in the first place.

While you haven't explained your "theorem" yet, I somehow have an idea where this is going.

Anyways, you haven't even really started yet, but you're already dead wrong as far as Mayan roads are concerned.

Many cities of the Yucatan Maya, and other sacred sites, were connected with a network of raised stone roads called Sacbeob or 'white ways' and can be seen today at Chichen Itza, Coba, Uxmal and others. Some of them have been incorporated into modern roadways. The roads, mostly built with limestone blocks and rubble fill were coated with a white limestone stucco. Besides their use for commerce and travel, the roads were also sacred to the Maya.

Spanish chronicler Diego Cogolludo wrote in 1688: "There are remains of paved highways which transverse all this kingdom and they say they ended in the east on the seashore...so that they may arrive at Cozumel for the fulfillment of their vows, to offer their sacrifice, to ask for help in their needs, and for the mistaken adoration of their false Gods".

Forgive him his christian intolerance, but other than that, your premise is dead in the water.

Here's a question to the "Ancient Aliens built the pyramids" believers?

If Ancient Aliens did it, did they really need a few hundred years to learn how to do it?

After all, the evidence is clear for smaller, more primitive pyramids being constructed prior to the largest and most grand ones.

And why didn't any of the Egyptian texts ever bother to SAY something remarkable about the beings who just so happened to come and make something directly upon order of Pharoah?

Back in reality, if you have a few hundred years how to figure out how to build something, and you are acting upon direct orders of the totalitarian dictatorship and you have enormous human resources at your disposal, you will think up some clever ways to do it.

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Originally posted by mbkennel

Here's a question to the "Ancient Aliens built the pyramids" believers?

If Ancient Aliens did it, did they really need a few hundred years to learn how to do it? A

After all, the evidence is clear for smaller, more primitive pyramids being constructed prior to the largest and most grand ones.

And why didn't any of the Egyptian texts ever bother to SAY something remarkable about the beings who just so happened to come and make something directly upon order of Pharoah?

Ssssh! Don't bring mere facts into it! Don't you know that it's far more fun to bring popcorn and read the more wild and wooly theories go floating past, carried on vast amounts of hot air and no facts?

Originally posted by nv4711

Originally posted by georgemoseleylander

Mayan pyramids etc, have huge flat stone roads at the the core of their temple comples that are dead straight, whilst the Mayans have made no effort to put in even a paved footpath through the ANdes to reach the temple complexes in the first place.

While you haven't explained your "theorem" yet, I somehow have an idea where this is going.

Forgive him his christian intolerance, but other than that, your premise is dead in the water.

Laughable! If you don't know the theorem, how can it be "dead in the water"?

A definite closed mind if ever there was one.

The theorem is in two parts.

Firstly, the cutting of the stone.

The argument is that the tones were not "cut" mechanically with a saw etc..

In actuality, as I have pointed out, Puma Punku is just a coupel of miles from a massive geological formation of Basaltic Fluorspar. Given this, it would be easy to manufacture Hydrofloric acid. Vicious stuff, one can't even keep it in a glass bottle as it will eat even through this in seconds, however, tehre are some types of pottery that are resiliant aganist it. So all they had to do was to form little clay ducts across the stone where they want it to run and Hydrofloric acid will cut and crack the stone exactly where they want it to.

The second part is how the stones were moved into place - and we DO HAVE A TECHNOLOGY THAT WILL SHIFT THEM and have done so for over 100 years.

....and in this regard I am stunned that no-one else whatsoever considers the possibilities that the original legends of how the stones of Stonehenge and the Moai heads might actually be TRUE.

The logic is simple - why were they built at the top of hills? Because it was EASIER to build them there than in the valleys. Why? If these huge stones can't be hauled uphill,. then there is only one way to get them there - drop them from above. In short, they were FLOWN into place.

The argument is that Copan and other temple complexes were not actually religious sites as we know them - Copan is, in effect, the Cardington of its day, it is a giant shipyard, not for ships on the sea, but for Zeppelins.

The precise resoureces to build such zeppelins are all there"-

- Limitless supply of maleable timber to form the frame.
- A one-mile, straight as a dye long roadway that is the precise dimensions necessary to construct a 1-mile long Zeppelin.
- Evidence of hydrogen production.
- A limitless supply of pigs - as the original German Zeppelins at the end of the 19th Century were developed before current rubber and plastic technology, the Germns used vast numbers of pigs bladders to hold the hydrogen and filled their huge Zeppelins with these.
- The positioning of the temple complexes are exactly where they would need to be in order to be propelled by the trade wind cycle.

Stonehenge and other stone circles...

- TO produce hydrogen in a way other than chemically, it would require electrolysis, ie the production of electricity. Since the ancients would not have had strong magnets, thsi can be compensated for by using VAST magnets. From an early age, I was struck by how Stonehenge and other stone circles so closely resemble huge dynamos laid out flat. Again, Stone cirles are always found in the rpesence of horses today. By harnessing horses to a block with copper wound around it , it would be possible to turn it through horse power at the core of the Stone Circles causing low voltage piped the electricity down copper laid out along the conduits to the smaller circles which could either be used as a small electricly powered, primative motor or used just to electrolyse the water and pump it aboard.

Obelisks

Ever wondered why every major city has an obelisk? A symbol of importance for a city? Answer - that is where the Zeppelins would be anchored and hence would be the place where people come to trade for rare commodities.

There is indications of high speed drilling, Christopher Dunn, I think is a great factor in advancement of understanding how the pyramid and the area around the pyramids could not of been done by the local natives!

Originally posted by thetiler
There is indications of high speed drilling, Christopher Dunn, I think is a great factor in advancement of understanding how the pyramid and the area around the pyramids could not of been done by the local natives!

Do you read nothing or are you just here to spout off?

As i showed in the posts above, YES THE NATIVES COULD HAVE DONE IT.

Originally posted by georgemoseleylander

Originally posted by nv4711

Originally posted by georgemoseleylander

Mayan pyramids etc, have huge flat stone roads at the the core of their temple comples that are dead straight, whilst the Mayans have made no effort to put in even a paved footpath through the ANdes to reach the temple complexes in the first place.

While you haven't explained your "theorem" yet, I somehow have an idea where this is going.

Forgive him his christian intolerance, but other than that, your premise is dead in the water.

Laughable! If you don't know the theorem, how can it be "dead in the water"?
A definite closed mind if ever there was one.

Obviously I was talking about your claim that the Maya had no roads, when in effect they had a large and well designed system of "highways" leading to exactly the sites that you claimed had no roads leading to them. You should learn to read and understand things in context.

So you are either a bad researcher or ignorant of facts. Not a good start for presenting the solution to the construction of the Pyramids.

BTW - when you have such a long posting, that you have to break it up into several pages, it is a good idea to start your own thread. This would make it a lot easier for you, and thos that you want to engage in a discussion.

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Are you done now? Well, let me sum it up: Even worse than what the AA crew comes up with.

So the Pyramids were built with Zeppelins in ca. 3000 BC, and those Zeppelins were built in a town in what is today Honduras, however that town, Copan, didn't exist until ca. 200 AD.

They, somehow, produced hydrogen.

Nowhere, at any site, ever, is there any record, be it iconography, painting, text that even remotely hints at something that could be construed as referring to a Zeppelin. However, there is plenty of evidence showing how, for instance in Giza, the stone blocks have been moved.

Yawn, it's actually boring... So I stop right here.

Better luck next time and thanks for playing.

Originally posted by nv4711
reply to post by georgemoseleylander

 

So the Pyramids were built with Zeppelins in ca. 3000 BC, and those Zeppelins were built in a town in what is today Honduras, however that town, Copan, didn't exist until ca. 200 AD.

Untrie. Firstly, I believe that the dating for many sites is way off. Secondly, Copan is merely an example.

They, somehow, produced hydrogen.

No. They do not produce it "somehow" but by two very simple means... by either chemical action in the pyramids, effectively built to survive an explosion or by pumping loads of electricity though saline or corrupted water using stone cirles like Stonehenge as giant dynamos.

Nowhere, at any site, ever, is there any record, be it iconography, painting, text that even remotely hints at something that could be construed as referring to a Zeppelin.

UNTRUE... hallofthegods.org... Second down to the right of the "ABYDOS helicopter"

Originally posted by georgemoseleylander

Nowhere, at any site, ever, is there any record, be it iconography, painting, text that even remotely hints at something that could be construed as referring to a Zeppelin.

UNTRUE... hallofthegods.org... Second down to the right of the "ABYDOS helicopter"

According to your logic, the Romans had stealth fighter planes because they used the letter "A," which resembles a stealth fighter.

The fact that you don't recognize Egyptian glyphs doesn't mean you're qualified to decide what they are communicating.

You can search right here at ATS to find the translation of the glyphs you are so awed by. They are a combination of the Nebty names of Ramses and Seti, his father.

Harte