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Originally posted by NeoVain
reply to post by SoymilkAlaska
History is written by the victors. If the Nazis had won the WW2, they would probably be perceived as the good guys today, winning against the evil U.S and the Jews. And who knows, maybe it would be a better world? Except everyone would probably be speaking german... But the Rothschilds and Rockefeller (jews) would probably NOT be the leaders of the shadow government manipulating our leaders today..
Red Army troops raped even Russian women as they freed them from camps
The Red Army's orgy of rape in the dying days of Nazi Germany was conducted on a much greater scale than previously suspected, according to a new book by the military historian Anthony Beevor.
Beevor, the author of the best-selling Stalingrad, says advancing Soviet troops raped large numbers of Russian and Polish women held in concentration camps, as well as millions of Germans.
The extent of the Red Army's indiscipline and depravity emerged as the author studied Soviet archives for his forthcoming book Berlin, to be published in April by Viking.
Beevor - who was educated at Sandhurst and served in the 11th Hussars (Prince Albert's Own), an elite cavalry regiment - says details of the Soviet soldiers' behaviour have forced him to revise his view of human nature.
"Having always in the past slightly pooh-poohed the idea that most men are potential rapists, I had to come to the conclusion that if there is a lack of army discipline, most men with a weapon, dehumanised by living through two or three years of war, do become potential rapists," he told The Bookseller.
He appears to echo the American feminist Marilyn French's notorious claim that "in their relations with women, all men are rapists, and that's all they are".
Jews, however, were not necessarily regarded by Soviet troops as fellow victims of the Nazis. The Soviet commissars had commandeered German concentration camps in order to incarcerate their own political prisoners, who included "class enemies" as well as Nazi officials, and their attitude towards the previous inmates was, to say the least, unsentimental.
As for the millions of Russian prisoners or slave workers who survived the Nazis: those who were not executed as traitors or sent to the Gulag could count themselves lucky. The women among them were probably treated no better than the Germans, perhaps worse.
The rape of Germany left a bitter legacy. It contributed to the unpopularity of the East German communist regime and its consequent reliance on the Stasi secret police. The victims themselves were permanently traumatised: women of the wartime generation still refer to the Red Army war memorial in Berlin as "the Tomb of the Unknown Rapist".
Originally posted by THE_PROFESSIONAL
Florida would be cut off and sold to the Chinese as a slave labor camp as most of the crazies in the USA are from Florida.
Originally posted by kat2684
I wouldn't expect them to be kind. I've never heard of a friendly invasion, nor would I expect one.
Most likely we provoked the war, when they get here (whoever they may be) will seek retribution for what our government has caused, in our name. So again the upstanding citizens will be terrorized, government officials, big executives flee, we get the rapes, murders, bombs, etc.
Originally posted by cassandranova
The nature of war is for the victors to torment the defeated in greater measure as the length and viciousness of the war warranted.
I don't believe America would lose a Third World War without destroying the planet in response through nuclear means, so in that instance, I guess the point would be moot since we'd all be dead or struggling to survive everywhere.
But pretending it did happen, it would be terrible. I spent a lot of time reading how the Germans were treated, especially by the Russians, after World War II, and it would be awful.
Originally posted by THE_PROFESSIONAL
Nope but we will be labeled as insurgents and terrorists and would probably get droned fairly frequently. They would also find lots of oil and natural gas in certain states. Florida would be cut off and sold to the Chinese as a slave labor camp as most of the crazies in the USA are from Florida.
Originally posted by bokonon2010