Are there any other experiencers here that think they may be hybrids?

I occasionally get juiced up and cruise around and I sometimes have gas but I don't think I'm a hybrid.

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The number experience isn't as bad as they make it. When I first started noticing it drove me insane to the point of scaring it in roman numerals on my hand only assuming if it was always there, it wouldn't be crazy to say "I see it all the time" because I actually would be. But that time in my life passed, the number has not. It's still on money, on cars and in the number of strawberries I got in a box the other day. I've just seemed to grow with it instead of growing into it.

Isn't it funny how they just assume you're aware of what's going on? It always made me laugh to myself, it was as if I was talking someone who had seen a movie before me and assumed I knew all about it. On a home movie I have somewhere, my family and myself as very young child are watching the light show the strangers put on while we were on vacation in Cape Hatteras, NC. My mother and father are/were also aware of their existence.

My mother has had many experiences in her life, so much so she doesn't like to talk to me about it that often as it still scares her. We also share an experience of the same tale but it happened to her when she was about 10, then it happened to me when I was about 12. The story is much too much to go on about in your thread, I will make my own soon about it. But it was involving the others. Not the strangers.

My father was also aware of them, he passed in 2010, leaving me with nothing but more questions. He had many run ins with the strangers that he told me when I was a teenager. Stories about them coming to him in his dreams as well telling him of travels that he had yet been on. One involving the soul leaving his body to talk to his daughter (which he didn't have when he was 15).

This occurred, he was in a coma in 2001 and came to me as a spiritual manifestation and told me he was coming back home. The next day he came out of his coma.

He had no recollection of being this soul walker, but when I told him my story of his visitation he cried and told me of the strangers telling him as a teen he would do so. They seem to come to my family. None of us act ignorant of it, we just don't like to discuss it all the time.

I believe there is a general worry that if we do, they won't be back. But I'm stepping out of that shadow more and more, I think the more we talk about it with one another, the more information we'll be able to gather.

I once ran into a stranger on the streets of NYC, where I was born and raised. I was 18 taking a walk though Central Park smoking and trying to clear my head when a homeless man stopped me. Being a New Yorker I would have shrugged him off if it was not for what he said to me. He said, "Chief, keep walking strong. We're around you and we won't let you fall...too far. Head up, eyes low - you won't forget what you don't know."

Those words will ring in my head until the day I don't have one. I knew who he was and he knew me. The last bit always gave me chills and I have even wrote it into several songs and pieces I've written. But He was the most helpful of all the strangers that I've physically met. I would have chased him down that day if he didn't just walk off leaving me in a still and obviously overwhelmed manner.

Originally posted by sled735
Here is a better video of Dorthy:

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Yes, thank you. I checked out the videos and now I see some of the photos. The story of the investigator was eerie.

I can't say that what I saw necessarily is the same as the phenomenon recorded by Carlos Diaz and Dorothy Izatt,

however, I have seen bright flashes of light, indoors and outdoors both white and green and lightning bright. I never took a photograph or attempted to video the flashes so I can't say what would have been revealed if I did.

I have seen beings of light. All I can say is that they were not objects outside. They were in my house, and right in front of me, and as a matter of fact, and I was reluctant to say this because of those who will immediately think I am possessed and they are demons, one of them literally made physical contact with me-- it went inside my left ear, and I could feel it fluttering around inside my ear, and was apparently speaking to me in English, but super super fast, and multi-layered speech. The words were going by too fast and there were too many separate voices for me to make out what was said consciously. I also lost time at this point, and I never actually saw the being ever exit my left ear, however, the next day there were two beings, so I assumed he did.

They were about the size of a dime, perhaps slightly larger, and super super bright red as bright as laser light.

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Thanks for that post CHIEF23, let me know if you start that thread and talk about your encounter with the others. There are things I have deliberately not stated about their activities, but then again I've only seen them in my dreams. Would like to compare notes.

As far as meeting strangers in real life. Yes I believe I have met many, and your example of meeting the homeless man in Central Park is as good an example as any.

More often than not, they appear to me as a homeless person, they make a simple statement or remark and then move on, never asking me for any money or anything, and often times, I will try to follow them only to discover that they've disappeared completely.

One great anecdote I can share with you is meeting this guy who quoted me a couple lines of a poem I had written years earlier, but had never shared with anyone. THAT certainly got my attention.

Like you, I also tried not to talk about them, thinking they may not appear again. I actually do want them to appear, but I don't feel like they are upset with me for talking about it.

There was only one thing they specifically asked me to keep secret, and I can't remember what the secret was anyway.

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I would very much like to compare notes.

I've had more physical interaction that I can recall then it being in dreams. I'm not saying I've been abducted, and I'm not saying I haven't been. But what I am saying is that they are real and have a connection with us. Albeit though the same gene mutation we share or the dreams themselves.

I do remember seeing them in my dreams. But my biggest challenges and toughest decisions have had to be made in real life, not the dream world. That is why I believe I have had more up close and personal experiences with them. The Strangers have comforted me in my dream state in my darkest times though. And that I'm forever thankful for.

It's amazing how you know who they are and when you see them. The best way I can describe it is this complete awareness of humanity and how breakable we are a humans and a society. This feeling of total "zen" if I may be so bold to state. I feel they show themselves to us for a reason, I think they do want to be talked about. But I don't think they want to be confused with the others. I think that is their fear.

I wasn't going to comment here until I saw this:

however, I have seen bright flashes of light, indoors and outdoors both white and green and lightning bright. I never took a photograph or attempted to video the flashes so I can't say what would have been revealed if I did.

This peaked my interested because I am big into spirituality and sometimes I see flashes of blue light that nobody else sees. I thought It was just me losing the plot or suffering from the after effects of watching the Television for too long.
Still, I would like to know what it is going on if there is a meta physical or paranormal aspect to it.

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I know when I see pops of light and color that they're energy burts.

I know it sounds weird, but that's what I've found them to be. When these interdimensional beings come into ours, they bring whatever energy is still attached to them with them into our world. I believe that these flashes of color are sometimes escorted by a small popping sounds. That is the energy barrier being broken, and the lights are the last of the other dimensions energy breaking off into out atmosphere and dissipating into the bleak and boring energy field around us.

Originally posted by rebelv

Originally posted by sled735
Here is a better video of Dorthy:

youtu.be...

Yes, thank you. I checked out the videos and now I see some of the photos. The story of the investigator was eerie.

I can't say that what I saw necessarily is the same as the phenomenon recorded by Carlos Diaz and Dorothy Izatt,

however, I have seen bright flashes of light, indoors and outdoors both white and green and lightning bright. I never took a photograph or attempted to video the flashes so I can't say what would have been revealed if I did.

I have seen beings of light. All I can say is that they were not objects outside. They were in my house, and right in front of me, and as a matter of fact, and I was reluctant to say this because of those who will immediately think I am possessed and they are demons, one of them literally made physical contact with me-- it went inside my left ear, and I could feel it fluttering around inside my ear, and was apparently speaking to me in English, but super super fast, and multi-layered speech. The words were going by too fast and there were too many separate voices for me to make out what was said consciously. I also lost time at this point, and I never actually saw the being ever exit my left ear, however, the next day there were two beings, so I assumed he did.

They were about the size of a dime, perhaps slightly larger, and super super bright red as bright as laser light.

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That is awesome! I bet if you could film these flashes of light you would see something similar to what Dorthy caught in her frames of film. According to her, the light flashes are sending messages the subconscious can understand. Wonder what they are saying?

This phenomena with light seems to be happening to more people lately, or people are coming out with their story about it more. There was a show about these flashes of light on the t.v. show, Fact, or Faked just a couple of weeks ago. I'm sorry, I don't remember the name of the episode to post it here from You Tube. While the t.v. crew was there they experienced these flashes of light the owners of the house spoke about. They said their experiences were NOT faked!

I feel things are only just beginning to surface as to what we can expect before this year hits the 12-21-12 date! It's very exciting!

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Yup. I totally agree, they don't want to be confused with the others. The Strangers told me how to be able to identify the others but also explained that it was very important not to let them know that I know.

The strangers don't always want me to know, necessarily, all the time, and I don't all the time, but a lot of times I do, just like how you explained (zen) and that sometimes seems to annoy them because I wasn't supposed to know, instead I was supposed to be involved in the drama.

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I think there's definitely a metaphysical aspect to it. It seems they want to get my attention, is the sense that I get, and in a most dramatic fashion, but why? I really don't know. There's so much I don't know. That's one of the reasons why I am here, to speak with others, and together we can pool our experiences together, to know more.

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I'm hoping there's an expansion of consciousness, or awareness and perception.

I think it was amazing that Dorothy was able to get those photos. The flashes must have been occurring frequently enough that photographing the phenomenon was feasible. I see flashes of light, inconsistently and months can go by between the phenomenon, so there's no practical way I could photograph it, unless I had the house and perimeter under constant video watch.

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Originally posted by rebelv
reply to post by CHIEF23

 

Yup. I totally agree, they don't want to be confused with the others. The Strangers told me how to be able to identify the others but also explained that it was very important not to let them know that I know.


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Can you tell us how to distinguish "the others" from the good ones?

One of the members on my thread said his spirit guide told him during an OBE to just "follow your heart" to be able to distinguish the good from the bad. They also said not to worry, they are with us, protecting us.
Does that go along with what you were told?

I am very nervous about dealing with the wrong ones! Please share your knowledge, if you are allowed.

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Yea, sure no problem.

"the others" is a phrase I coined to refer to them because of the original warning which was given to me by a being that I called a "stranger" or "strangers" because they are people in my dreams that I do not know in "real" life, accompanied by an intuition that they are not figments of my imagination but are independent intelligent consciousnesses accessing my dreams.

The stranger in this case was an native-American Indian man, who appeared to be a Shaman, however, he also used Christian terminology.

The warning was '...be aware of the others because they are extremely dangerous and violent'

I had no idea who he was talking about at the time, since this was my first encounter with a "human" looking "stranger" -- Looking back on it now, I suppose the first dream I had involving the two little "grays" (still don't know if that's what they are-- I call them the Aeons, which is what they called themselves when they were in the form of red-lights and was not a dream)

The stranger in this dream told me that I could identify "the others" by making direct eye contact with them and that they had no special ability to be able to identify me as being anything other than a normal person even after making eye contact, but I had the ability to identify them.

The stranger told me that the only way they could know that I was aware that they were not normal people, is by judging my reactions, so if, after making eye contact with them and discovering (through intuition I suppose) who they really were, if I reacted by becoming instantly intimidated or acted frightened or tried to run away or something like that, then they could assume I blew their cover.

The stranger gave me an example in this dream, as a test to see how well I would react if I actually encountered them. The stranger put particular emphasis that I make eye contact, but if I discover who they are, not to break eye contact too soon, or hold it too long, in other words, try not to react unusual at all, as though I knew nothing, they were sensitive to how people reacted and could pick up on unusual reactions even if they were subtle.

So, in the dream, I was walking down the street, and I saw several people moving items from a werehouse into a van parked on the curb next to the small warehouse garage.

Nothing at all seemed unusual, and I was just walking past them, when I made casual eye contact with one of the three men who were moving boxes from the garage to the van.

The instant I made eye contact (even though the man was wearing sunglasses), I became aware, not only that this man and his other two assistants were the "others" that I had been warned about, but intuitively a flood of information came into my mind, so that I became aware of what they were doing, and recent experiences that they had had.

I knew, that what was inside the boxes were weapons of a wide variety but all illegal fully automatic assault rifles. I knew also that they were violent.

I walked passed casually pretending to know nothing.

Later on, I saw one of them in the lobby of the hotel I was staying at, and I made casual eye contact with him again even though I didn't really want to.

The reason being, is that he was trying to make eye contact with me, and if I tried to avoid making eye contact him I would give myself away (a little trick of there's-- obviously he had suspected something about me).

I made eye contact with him again, and then forced myself to hold it for only a moment, and then carry on as though I knew nothing, which was difficult, because the contact intuitively made me aware that not only were they involved in running guns, but that they were also involved in running drugs, as well as human trafficking.

These guys were bad, and they were bad to the bone.

It was all I could do to keep myself from fleeing from his presence as fast as I could, but forced myself to leave the hotel lobby casually as though I knew nothing.

I have had other examples given to me of "the others" and they're always involved in really bad things, they are almost always heavily armed. and involved in weapons trading, drug trading, and kidnapping.

Usually, they do not try to hide their activities, like in the example I cited above; they were moving guns right out in the open, the only thing concealing their activity were the boxes, but they were doing it in broad daylight, in the middle of a lot of traffic (both cars and pedestrian traffic) and seemed not to have any concerns that anyone (such as the police) might question their activities.

I did not know why at the time, but later on I did become aware that they transmit some kind of hypnotic type thought to people all around them to not pay any attention to them, there's nothing unusual going on here, etc... Even if someone actually sees something illegal taking place they won't realize it.

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Originally posted by rebelv

I'm hoping there's an expansion of consciousness, or awareness and perception.

Ask whatever it is that you believe in to expand your perception beyond the limits of your belief system. It works.

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So, let me be sure I understand what you're saying... The "others" are actually aliens disguising themselves as humans? And the only way to know they aren't human is to look into their eyes, and pick up on the information that they are doing all this bad stuff? That really would be hard not to have a reaction to!
Thanks for responding to my question.

Originally posted by troubleshooter
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The catalyst is usually some seemingly unrelated occult involvement...
...do you remember being involved in something of this nature prior to it beginning to happen?

All these manifestations are of occult origin.

Is that right? Who told you that? Do you even know what occult is? It means "hidden knowledge." Hidden by the Church. Why do you think the Church, the founder of religion, hides knowledge? Please, tell us everything you know about the "occult origins" that is causing these manifestations?

I myself experienced Alien visitation many years before I studied the Occult Teachings. So I would say your post is full of it. How do you respond?

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It really doesn't matter where you post for insults. Say ETs, Aliens, or UFOs in any thread and the religious crowd will jump all over it. Say the word Magick, or Occult and they will shout Satanist at you. It never ends. This is a free Nation, with Freedom of Speech and Religion. Say what you want.

Originally posted by troubleshooter

Originally posted by autowrench

Originally posted by troubleshooter
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The catalyst is usually some seemingly unrelated occult involvement...
...do you remember being involved in something of this nature prior to it beginning to happen?

All these manifestations are of occult origin.

And you know this HOW? You say this with complete conviction, that means you have facts to back up your statement. So, let's see the facts. I would be willing to bet you do not know thing one about the Occult. That is just something your preacher said, and now you are parroting it. Tell me I am wrong here.

Then you would be wrong about everything you just said then eh!

You were the one who made the statement. Going to back it up, or let us make our own assessment? I would win that bet, would I not?

Originally posted by BlueMule

Originally posted by rebelv

I'm hoping there's an expansion of consciousness, or awareness and perception.

Ask whatever it is that you believe in to expand your perception beyond the limits of your belief system. It works.

Thanks BlueMule, I asked for that, I also wrote it down, its sitting on my right speaker. Great prayer. Thanks again.

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ITS NEVER BEEN A SUCH THING AS HYBRIDS,BUT THERE ARE THINGS THAT JUMP INTO YOUR BODY AND TAKE IT OVER FOR 12 YEARS.