Why I (a black woman) left the Democratic Party

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posted on Jun, 17 2012 @ 03:30 AM
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Originally posted by InfoKartel
reply to post by RealSpoke
 


I have a decent memory.

My memory tells me you should look into the OP's post history.

It's not the first time she has posted in this manner. I can tell you why I think a person, like the OP, would think and speak the way she does. It's not a pretty story and hence only through pm.

All I can say is though; she is not to blame.


PLEASE provide the statements that you are talking about.

PLEASE DO.




posted on Jun, 17 2012 @ 03:35 AM
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Originally posted by RealSpoke
reply to post by Hannagan
 


Going to have to agree, no black woman is going to laugh at that racist Tea Party joke..

OP is FAKE

edit on 17-6-2012 by RealSpoke because: (no reason given)


I am not bothered in the least bit by those who are greatly bothered by my statments.

I did not offend anyone. All I did was discuss with other members why I, a black woman, switched parties. This is regardless of what I have thought in the past, or even what I thought last year. Just the same way that I abandoned Christianity.

So go ahead and try to shift the attention off of my statements. You are mad that I have hit home with a lot of people, and many more may start waking up to the democratic party.

Still, I appreciate you giving my thread attention at all.



posted on Jun, 17 2012 @ 03:36 AM
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reply to post by ButterCookie
 


I'd rather have a reply to my post that was directed at you.

Besides that, if you're forgetful you can also check your own post history.



posted on Jun, 17 2012 @ 03:38 AM
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Originally posted by ButterCookie

Originally posted by RealSpoke
reply to post by Hannagan
 


Going to have to agree, no black woman is going to laugh at that racist Tea Party joke..

OP is FAKE

edit on 17-6-2012 by RealSpoke because: (no reason given)


I am not bothered in the least bit by those who are greatly bothered by my statments.

I did not offend anyone. All I did was discuss with other members why I, a black woman, switched parties. This is regardless of what I have thought in the past, or even what I thought last year. Just the same way that I abandoned Christianity.

So go ahead and try to shift the attention off of my statements. You are mad that I have hit home with a lot of people, and many more may start waking up to the democratic party.

Still, I appreciate you giving my thread attention at all.


Like I said:

Cannot reason for the time being(if she's lucky). Note how she avoids questions.



posted on Jun, 17 2012 @ 03:47 AM
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reply to post by ButterCookie
 


More propaganda.

This is why America is destined for revolution. You have a large idiot public who choose a team when they vote. They don't choose issues to support or policies. You either vote for the better of two evils or you don't vote at all.

And why the hell does it matte that she's black? Are we supposed to be stunned and shocked? Do only black people and white hippies vote for Obama?


So, let's assume for one minute that this isn't just more political BS trying to persuade other people to vote your way, what about all the things the Republican party has done? Why do a few experiences force an American to completely forget that Bush was on duty when the economic collapse hit? Why do people conveniently forget that Bush (a supposed CAPITALIST) started the biggest bailout program of corporate business ever seen? Why do people so easily forget that both the Iraq and Afghanistan wars were based on lies - Bush, Cheney, Blair and Rice are directly responsible for lying to their people and for the deaths of thousands - including heroic Americans who went to war based on their BS.


Both parties are OWNED. If you vote for either, you are voting for the lesser of two evils, and since when is that a reasonable situation to be in, and why do people just accept it?



posted on Jun, 17 2012 @ 04:01 AM
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Originally posted by ButterCookie
Just the same way that I abandoned Christianity.


Whoa now! This simply will not do at all, if you want to tow line for Mittens, you're going to have to at least pretend that you love Jesus! Don't get us wrong, we understand why you wouldn't like the guy, with all of his, "Help the poor" this, and "Turn the other cheek" that, the guy was practically the first Socialist! (Hiss)

Of course, having been in the military, you understand how critical it is for us to perpetuate conflict by any means necessary. It serves a two-fold purpose, it generates profit for the boy's club, and as an added benefit, it keeps the numbers of our poor uneducated minorities low! Killing two birds with one tomahawk cruise missile so to speak.

So please, for the love of Lucifer, you're going to have to learn how to conform a bit more to the party line, we know you're trying real hard, and you're doing quite well with your talking points, just try and remember that our god is a self-described "Jealous" and "Wrathful" god, and he demands TRIBUTE!



posted on Jun, 17 2012 @ 04:06 AM
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How many times are you going to state that you are a black woman? 100x in this thread already? You're not convincing me.

No black woman would laugh at the racist tea party joke, like you did, on page 2 of this thread. Plus your OP reads like a bad propagandized infomercial script.


“A black kid asks his mom, ‘Mama, what’s a democracy?’

“‘Well, son, that be when white folks work every day so us po’ folks can get all our benefits.’

“‘But mama, don’t the white folk get mad about that?’

“‘They sho do, son. They sho do. And that’s called racism.’”

Marler claims that she will no longer use the joke to begin her speeches.

The joke comes at the most inopportune time for the Tea Party, which has been denying that their followers are racist.


www.abovetopsecret.com...

^hilarious


I don't know, maybe you're just a brainwashed military victim full of self hate.
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posted on Jun, 17 2012 @ 04:09 AM
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reply to post by RealSpoke
 


Well it is an election year
It's also weird that this member registered on 6/15/12



posted on Jun, 17 2012 @ 04:16 AM
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Originally posted by muse7
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Well it is an election year
It's also weird that this member registered on 6/15/12



who registered on 6/15/12??



posted on Jun, 17 2012 @ 04:23 AM
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They have the OP and this guy reading from the same script



posted on Jun, 17 2012 @ 04:28 AM
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I've known some poor single mothers who's govt. help amounts to a ratty trailor in a run down trailer park. Even with food stamps they still have to accept church food because the food stamps don't cover the whole month. I've yet to meet anyone on welfare living large.



posted on Jun, 17 2012 @ 05:02 AM
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Hahahaha! Reading about women and ethnic minorities turning Republican in this day and age reminds of turkeys voting for Thanksgivings.



posted on Jun, 17 2012 @ 05:15 AM
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reply to post by MI5edtoDeath
 


YOU SICK BARSTARD

YOUR TIME IS COMING



posted on Jun, 17 2012 @ 05:15 AM
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OP don't listen to the people who mock your decisions based on their own slave mentality and expectations of you. They claim to be awake but they're clearly not.
They don't like free speech which is indicative of a closeted- fascist mentality.

You are correct to recognize that the democratic party is the plantation party, however the republicans are corrupt too.
If you find yourself liberal on social issues, check out the independent candidates. It's sad that they have a slim chance of winning against the 2 major parties, however atleast you're not participating in the group think/ robot culture that politics has become. The captain of the ship is captain morgan and it's a complete joke.
Take care and happy fathers day all
edit on 17-6-2012 by HamrHeed because: spelling



posted on Jun, 17 2012 @ 05:23 AM
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Good... you are on your way to enlightment.. the next step is being in no party at all.. and join the free thinking community



posted on Jun, 17 2012 @ 05:40 AM
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Oh boy, the Democrats ATS membership is all mad now.

Your opening statement is correct, but looking to the Republican Party is not the answer, that party no longer represents conservatives.



posted on Jun, 17 2012 @ 05:53 AM
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Originally posted by InfoKartel
Very few people can think through their military conditioning.

:shk:


Some of the responses on this thread are amazingly funny.

Buttercookie MUST be mentally deranged or indoctrinated from her military service;
or she MUST hate herself because she isn't acting black enough by voting republican;
or she must be a fake because she said she's athiest and, of course, all black people
HAVE to be religious - either deeply Christian or Muslim.


Being the internet, we have no way of knowing for sure (at this time) if Buttercookie
is who she says she is. But that aside ... Pretend for just a moment that there really is
a black woman, who is a Marine veteran, who has decided to leave religion behind
and has changed political affiliations away from the democrats and over to the
republicans. WHY are there those on the left who obviously feel so intimidated by this?
Because a black person isn't acting 'black enough' .. doesn't fit the mold ??
Looks like that scares more than a few people here. I find that interesting.



posted on Jun, 17 2012 @ 05:55 AM
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So to sum this up:

You have a friend who easily got welfare in proportions that are 100% unrealistic...yet you were left in the cold after 3 months. And because that makes you bitter, you now support the party who's against ALL welfare (even the help that got you started) instead of being against the party who's against most. Makes perfect sense



posted on Jun, 17 2012 @ 06:01 AM
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Originally posted by ButterCookie

Originally posted by benrl
Im Hispanic, was raised in a "democrats" household, I left after Obama got the primary. Now I am registered republican, but honestly I lean Dem on some issues and Rep on other.

I can't see voting for either in the upcoming elections, don't know what ill vote.

No one party represents even 50 % of what I believe.
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I can understand.

Even though I will be voting republican, I don't agree with all 'republican ideologies'...for example, I am not religious, I believe in gay rights, and I support abortion.

See, people should not seek to find a party who identifies their stance on EVERY issue. that's impossible, I believe in the exercising the right to vote, so I would encourage all people to do so, and for the candidate who you feel strongest about to lead the country in a better direction.

While I love the fact that a black man is in the office, I understand that I do not support socialism.


I have a few issues with your train of thought.

You were in the military (thank you), but you were trained to be independent and rely on yourself. I am sure you had some schools in the Marines even if they were only for a few weeks. Those schools are way harder than college so you should have had no problem taking classes and making good scores.

There is a Pell grant for students and everyone qualifies.

Do they still offer the GI bill or did you decline it when you went in?

What school were you going to? What degree? Did you get loans? According to the Republican platform you were never meant to get assistance and you should have a large debt with your degree that you should start paying off as soon as you get out of school and find a job.

While I am happy that you went to school and did not abuse the system like many lazy a-holes do I am also concerned that you expect more without being labeled.

I don't support either party! I would be all for getting rid of ALL federal assistance programs along with ALL rich benefits. I am also for removing 90% of federal agencies especially the terrorist groups like the CIA who start all our wars and give Americans a bad name worldwide.

My point is this: You are an individual in a group of individuals. Some want a free ride and when they know how to get it they will. Others want to improve their life by working hard and making good decisions without any help. Both can be good people, but one will make things better and the other will make things worse by their example. There is no party that has integrity. There is not one ideology that encompasses all of mankind's issues because mankind disagrees on what the issues are, abortion for example.

What is needed is a new understanding of our place on this planet and a new way of thinking about government and it's abilities. The government has outgrown it's britches.It has become a cash cow for corporate giants and the wealthiest individuals. They profit from YOUR struggle to make a name for yourself and your tax money. They are making money from the government just like the people on welfare so the rich are no different and the parties are the same burning both ends of the candle.

This is not a PARTY issue! It is a philosophical issue. Social programs could be useful if used for a specified time that creates an equal opportunity for the poorest people to get an education that allows them to prosper and give back to society while being able to take care of their own. People must make their own decisions. People are responsible for their own actions. Parties are meant to be divisive so our current system is destined for failure. As long as people identify with one party we will fail. Parties use issues to get support. Issues divide people. A house divided cannot stand!

We all need to think for ourselves and provide for ourselves and those we make. Until that happens we will be divided and people will abuse the system from the top and bottom with all the hard working idividuals paying the bill.



posted on Jun, 17 2012 @ 06:03 AM
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Good morning, OP!

I was reading ATS not logged in, but I had to log in to reply. This is one of the VERY BEST posts I have read here, because it gives me so much hope!

I'm more of a libertarian than a republican these days, but where I DO strongly support a larger government, it's in the case of HELPING THOSE WHO HELP THEMSELVES. which means, I think you should have been helped through college, no question.

Your story IS the American dream, as is mine. The American dream is NOT about how much crap you can acquire in a lifetime, but rather about how we can do and be anything we want, regardless of where we started.

It sounds condescending to say your story makes me proud of you. Can I say this instead: your story makes me proud to be an American, which is not a feeling I have often anymore. Thank you for that, and keep it up.

Wow.





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