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Alien Civilization Makes Contact!

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posted on Jun, 17 2012 @ 09:41 AM
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Originally posted by Lightworth
Haven't read most (by far) of the replies, but the posts I've seen reflect absolute ignorance of what constututes a GENUINE crop anomaly. News flash: Clearly not ALL of them are made by jugheads with boards tied to their feet. Forgive me if someone has already pointed out the basic facts, so, a brief rundown of Crop Formations 101 is in order (or again):

Here's the most extremely shortened version: node expulsions on each individual stalk (that are apparently heat-generated), crop lying flat and swirled but NOT DAMAGED, presence of iron microspheres, field researchers becoming disoriented when gathering or TRYING to gather data/readings, higher microwave radiation readings. Get the idea? Can you say ANOMALIES? Those are physical REALITIES. Deal with it!!

I tend to believe the formations are made by human tricksters using UNREVEALED TECHNOLOGY rather than by ET visitors, but I could be wrong, and either way the (real) phenomenon is unexplained, undefined, and the most blatantly obviously so of any such phenomena on Earth.


To a few posts, starting with the one above.

What is a GENUINE crop anomaly - and how do you know that they aren't all made by people - you mean you assume because that's what you want to believe.

Which of these high microwave radiation readings, iron microspheres, etc have YOU PERSONALLY observed or measured at one of your GENUINE crop circles.

None right, because you base your beliefs on the word of other people who also want to believe the same thing, and who will either a) delude themselves to find evidence where there is none to fit their belief, or b) will wilfully lie to back up their beliefs.

Unless you have personally been there and done it then you're just regurgitating unsubstantiated hearsay, which is 99% of the time factually incorrect.

Next, Anushka or whatever your name is, you didn't need to tell us your beliefs, its blatantly obvious what they are.

Finally the genius who claims they're made with sound frequency whatever it was, how do you know this, and how does it work.

ATS is full of prople who proclaim that this technology or that technology is used for blah, but you have no evidence that it even exists, or that it would work (ie tell us the physics behind it), or can demonstrate it having ever been used, but still you post up these crazy hairbrained notions as though they are fact and we should just accept it.

It becomes clear when you see posts and comments like that at the level of ignorance and lack of scientific knowledge or thinking that prevails on this forum.

Unfortunately while there is room for the possibility of great debate of a multitude of conspiracies and weird stuff, we seem to have the jetsum and flotsum of the internet washed up on the shores of this forum, and consequently 99.9% of everything on the site is utter garbage.




posted on Jun, 17 2012 @ 10:06 AM
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It certainly is a great mystery here.
I personally do not buy into the theory that all crop circles are made by hoxers.



posted on Jun, 17 2012 @ 10:08 AM
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You know, there's always someone who chimes in with ' they did it with planks and ropes' or something to that extent, so as to explain it away. Well that's becoming as vague as 'they'..... "they say" or some un-named group, usually inserted to represent some validity, as though we all know who 'they' are. Giving such a generic identity seems to be the norm, and the given that everybody is uneducated enough to accept it happily. It's true that there has been a certain dumbing down of America as everything becomes automated and information need not be stored in ones memory, still, come on, people are really pretty tech savvy now days.

In response, I would challenge the response that 'they' did it and suggest that their 'board & rope' people perform a circle the complexity of some that have been discovered as of late. For instance the one of the alien face and CD that was done next to the Government installation Telescope array. I contend there is not enough time in the night to accomplish such a task, and even if a substantial number of individuals were present, their discovery wouldn't have been missed. There were after all security cameras at the installation during the time of the event.

I don't think the more complex circles could be done with even a couple dozen individuals due to their complexity. At ground level you can not correct for discrepancies and mistakes in orientation that would be needed, only from an elevated vantage point ( aircraft) could one guide the progress. Then there's inclement weather to contend with as well. And I'm sure there are individuals on the watch for just some discovery of the circle makers, with the notoriety they as discoverers of the fraud would receive for their vigilance. There's also communication to not be overlook. The makers couldn't very well shout instructions to their accomplice's. They would then need radios, and radio frequencies can be and are monitored by both government and radio buffs.

This leads me to believe they somehow could not be of worldly origin as extraordinary as that seems. I'm not one who believes in extraterrestrials or alien visitors, nor do I know anyone who was so inclined, but the answer does pose some 'difficult' prospects.



posted on Jun, 17 2012 @ 10:14 AM
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Originally posted by Baldric

Lets start with the image with the message, your evidence that this was man made is where?
You know the poeple who made it?



Baldric.......you obviously believe this was made by "alien" hands..........but have you ever asked yourself why these highly advanced aliens never put their message on the side of a mountain or in hard rock or perhaps on the sea bed.......... the answer is obvious............ man can't put an image like this on a mountain or rock face, nor can he do it on the sea bed.

You ask for "evidence"............but where's your "evidence" that it wasn't manmade?



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posted on Jun, 17 2012 @ 10:24 AM
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Originally posted by Plotus

I don't think the more complex circles could be done with even a couple dozen individuals due to their complexity. At ground level you can not correct for discrepancies and mistakes in orientation that would be needed, only from an elevated vantage point ( aircraft) could one guide the progress. Then there's inclement weather to contend with as well. And I'm sure there are individuals on the watch for just some discovery of the circle makers, with the notoriety they as discoverers of the fraud would receive for their vigilance. There's also communication to not be overlook. The makers couldn't very well shout instructions to their accomplice's. They would then need radios, and radio frequencies can be and are monitored by both government and radio buffs.


Crop cirle makers have managed to make highly complex looking circles (A group in the UK were filmed by night vision cameras and tasksed to make crop circle, the design of which was chosen and designed by a different party specifically for it's difficulty and precision) The makers of this circle didn't shout orders, indeed they were very quiet.
The final results were very impressive given the complexity of the design.
So you could say crop cirle making is an art which some groups have mastered better than others......the more complex crop cirles were most likely made by the better crop circle group makers around.

So never underestimate what humans can do for the sake of their art.
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posted on Jun, 17 2012 @ 10:45 AM
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Aw man, I was hoping for actual contact with some kind of radio signal or something. This crop circle is 11 years old and doesn't really prove anything.



posted on Jun, 17 2012 @ 10:52 AM
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Originally posted by 3NL1GHT3N3D1
Aw man, I was hoping for actual contact with some kind of radio signal or something. This crop circle is 11 years old and doesn't really prove anything.


I'll put money on it that if we ever do get a signal from Mr.ET...........it won't be in the form of a crop circle!



posted on Jun, 17 2012 @ 11:05 AM
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did you just say the american government would have to 'allow' aliens to land/be/show themselves on earth???
are you seriously saying that the US gov could STOP the grays from say,landing somewhere and interacting with a bunch of ppl unless they made some kinda deal with the us gov ???

those 'beings' are probably flying or 'traveling' distances unimaginable to most of us yet you think they would need a permission to land here on earth from the government of the US?

now that's some primitive thinking my friend ...



posted on Jun, 17 2012 @ 11:08 AM
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The tech to receive our messages, then come here only to draw pictures in our hay fields? The whole concept is dumb, in my opinion. Crop circles are neat though.



posted on Jun, 17 2012 @ 11:31 AM
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posted on Jun, 17 2012 @ 11:35 AM
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Originally posted by Demoncreeper
The tech to receive our messages, then come here only to draw pictures in our hay fields? The whole concept is dumb, in my opinion. Crop circles are neat though.


If human beings ever manage to travel beyond our own solar system to another star............and I have my doubts that we ever will, given the enormous distance to even our nearest next star..........would we as a race thousands of years ahead of current day modern man choose to make pictures in someone else's field to communicate?

I have to say it..... you are right..........the concept is dumb........and by default those that believe crop circles are messages from ET must also be dumb!

I don't mean to offend believers........but give it a little thought and you should be able to see that the concept of crop cirle making aliens holds little if any water.
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posted on Jun, 17 2012 @ 11:53 AM
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Ah yes, the old predictably desperate and baseless "certainly they're just a bunch of liars" claim. Probably the biggest name in crop anomaly research is WC Levengood and the BLT Research Team. Google them if you wish. They're entirely meticulous and thorough in their work; they've been corroberated by other researchers and never have been even CLOSE to being debunked. If they had, it would have been all over the media and common knowledge of the fraud (or whatever falsehood) by now, if not a long time ago. There's plenty of very good evidence for those who choose to REGISTER it mentally and, moreover, emotionally. It baffles me how I and others like me always get the "believing what you WANT to believe" accusation when precisely that mentality is most blatantly obvious among the reactionary naysayers.



posted on Jun, 17 2012 @ 12:37 PM
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I've seen some wonderful UFO articles and video's but crop circles just don't do it for me, the idea that the aliens way to communicate is to piss off a farmer just lacks a spark. I'm a believer but I just see crop circles as ruses and desperate people clutching at anything they can.

I'm more interested if the new Chinese space flight is real this time


No pesky bubbles...



posted on Jun, 17 2012 @ 12:50 PM
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Originally posted by christafinias
okay say it isn't man made then, what message are the ET's trying to send? it looks like a grey with some sort of calender.


Yes, indeed it looks like a grey, but as far as the message, deciphered as 8 bit ASCII . Obviously, it was not man made.



posted on Jun, 17 2012 @ 01:09 PM
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Originally posted by Baldric

THEY ARE ALL MAN MADE BUDDY....WHAT ELSE WOULD BE..ARE YOU SERIOUS


Lets start with the image with the message, your evidence that this was man made is where?
You know the poeple who made it?



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Yea the evidence is called : its on our(human) freakin land. Just like a UFO is in our(human) freakin skies. Get it!?


Its you tools that have to prove without a doubt its "reptoids" or whatever.


Get it



posted on Jun, 17 2012 @ 01:15 PM
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I have not once said i believe they was made by aliens, but to believe they was made by a drunk or some locals overnight (stated on many times in various threads) for something which is complex and has a hidden message within.
While i sit on the fence neither arguement has the absolute proof who made them, while i aggree many are man made, so ask the question, who made this overnight?.



posted on Jun, 17 2012 @ 01:28 PM
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Originally posted by Baldric
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I have not once said i believe they was made by aliens, but to believe they was made by a drunk or some locals overnight (stated on many times in various threads) for something which is complex and has a hidden message within.
While i sit on the fence neither arguement has the absolute proof who made them, while i aggree many are man made, so ask the question, who made this overnight?.


I think I already answered who probably made it.........specialist groups of crop circle makers who do it for art..........and they openly say they "need" the UFO community to continue to believe aliens made them......to continue the interest..........that's why crop circle maker groups don't readily admit to making these circles after each one appears..........as for drunks and locals........who said anything about them?

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posted on Jun, 17 2012 @ 01:35 PM
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1686 was the 1st record of a crop circle, they said they could of been caused from air flows from the sky!

pity i don't have a pic of that one!



posted on Jun, 17 2012 @ 01:35 PM
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I am with you, there is no aliens making crop circles just locals having a laugh just
like in good old england .. Charlatans stand to make a quick buck out of it
And boy they fooled so many sheeple, i have seen it done by locals and they are
good at making the crop circles..



posted on Jun, 17 2012 @ 01:37 PM
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Originally posted by denver22

I am with you, there is no aliens making crop circles just locals having a laugh just
like in good old england .. Charlatans stand to make a quick buck out of it
And boy they fooled so many sheeple, i have seen it done by locals and they are
good at making the crop circles..


Locals......yes, but some groups especially the goods ones travel about too.







 
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