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Originally posted by ngchunter
Originally posted by MoeFugga
reply to post by ngchunter
Chaos therory
I'm sorry that you think that's supposed to somehow disprove my analysis, but it doesn't.
Originally posted by eriktheawful
Originally posted by MoeFugga
reply to post by ngchunter
Chaos therory
Chaos Theory does not apply to an asteroid with a predictable orbital path, that it has been on for 1, 10, or 100 million years (or even a billion or 2).
Chaos theory does not invalidate physics, astrophysics, etc. It's a study of dynamic systems that are highly sensitive to initial conditions.
Originally posted by karen61057
Originally posted by MoeFugga
reply to post by DJW001
I did write the blog, never claimed I didn't. As I said was surfing the web and came upon the info and put it I blog then posted here blah blah. Perhaps I should have been more clear. Sorry, get over it.
Ibjad an old ATS account but wanted a new one due to a new email address etc. I posted on two threads by mistake as wrong topic and posted on two more that had relevant topics.
Fact remains the same. What about it and what if it happens etc etc
Well thats true. You didnt claim you wrote this blog. You just claimed you came across it, linked it and even labled it a bit harsh. All that sounds like you were trying to hide the fact you wrote the blog. Now you back peddle with the above disclaimer.
An asteroid the size of a city block is set to fly by Earth Thursday (June 14), and you may be able to watch it happen live.
The near-Earth asteroid 2012 LZ1, which astronomers think is about 1,650 feet (500 meters) wide, will come within 14 lunar distances of Earth Thursday evening. While there's no danger of an impact on this pass, the huge space rock may come close enough to be caught on camera.You can watch the asteroid flyby on Slooh's website, found here: events.slooh.com...
2012 LZ1 just popped onto astronomers' radar this week. It was discovered on the night of June 10-11 by Rob McNaught and his colleagues, who were peering through the Uppsala Schmidt telescope at Siding Spring Observatory in Australia.
Actually DJ that might not be quite true. There have been objects that remained undetected right up until the last possible moment. Any of these objects could have done significant damage in the area where they crashed to earth. Not saying that it would cause an extinction level event or anything like that but certainly could do damage. The fact is, we just dont see everything and its possible for something to get by without detection.
Originally posted by DJW001
reply to post by karen61057
Actually DJ that might not be quite true. There have been objects that remained undetected right up until the last possible moment. Any of these objects could have done significant damage in the area where they crashed to earth. Not saying that it would cause an extinction level event or anything like that but certainly could do damage. The fact is, we just dont see everything and its possible for something to get by without detection.
Meteors small enough to evade detection simply don't cause that much damage.
Originally posted by MoeFugga
Originally posted by ngchunter
Originally posted by MoeFugga
reply to post by ngchunter
Chaos therory
I'm sorry that you think that's supposed to somehow disprove my analysis, but it doesn't.
Mate, Honestly, I don't doupt what you say is correct. but what I am saying is that this object has only been discovered about 4 months ago and there is only about 8 months until it arives.
Glad we have a global effort and backyard explorers watching the skies, but calulating trajectory as easy as it is, can't be enough,
things change little things can cause a great change, look at our weather,
I honestly can't say I trust the Government enough to give people plenty of time...
Originally posted by MoeFugga
and could our Gravity effect it's future flight path?
Originally posted by MoeFugga
Originally posted by eriktheawful
Originally posted by MoeFugga
reply to post by ngchunter
Chaos therory
Chaos Theory does not apply to an asteroid with a predictable orbital path, that it has been on for 1, 10, or 100 million years (or even a billion or 2).
Chaos theory does not invalidate physics, astrophysics, etc. It's a study of dynamic systems that are highly sensitive to initial conditions.
Ok, so you know without a doupt that the trajectory it's on is the same one it has always been on that it may once have been on a differant one and may have been even bigger at one time, that nothing has ever interferred with its flight path.... and could our Gravity effect it's future flight path? or perhaps pull it it (not likly since it's going very fast)?
Originally posted by ngchunter
Originally posted by MoeFugga
and could our Gravity effect it's future flight path?
Ok, apparently you didn't even watch my video. I specifically said that the gravity of the planets was accounted for. I don't think you understand just how accurately we are at calculating these things and projecting whether an impact is possible or not.
Originally posted by MoeFugga
Originally posted by ngchunter
Originally posted by MoeFugga
and could our Gravity effect it's future flight path?
Ok, apparently you didn't even watch my video. I specifically said that the gravity of the planets was accounted for. I don't think you understand just how accurately we are at calculating these things and projecting whether an impact is possible or not.
so where do you work? Just asking as you refer to "WE"
Lets forget this asteroid for a minute... I think you said earlier on that an asteroids trajectory is a constant and never changes, but I am sure that there are other elements in space than can interfere with that, there is no one with any formula capable of predicting everything.
and what about the recent City Block-Size Asteroid 2012 LZ1 which was only discovered over a week ago? yes it missed but somebody was sleeping at their post lol
What about a large CME?
Not trying to be chicken little here, but the JPL’s omission of impact probabilities for 2013 do raise eyebrows.
Can Solar Flares also impact on an Asteroids trajectory?
Some of these asteroids are newly discovered and are rather close, measuring there distance requires long observation periods, as our atmosphere makes things a little fuzzy and absolute accurate measurment can not be completely 100%
Originally posted by MoeFugga
reply to post by cloaked4u
Shake'n ma head,- sad mate, really Sad
Now I truly believe the earth needs an 'E.L.E'
Originally posted by cloaked4u
Originally posted by MoeFugga
reply to post by cloaked4u
Shake'n ma head,- sad mate, really Sad
Now I truly believe the earth needs an 'E.L.E'
Gee, this happens alot in space with all the space junk out there. Maybe we should all dawn our protective tin foil helmets and hide in the basement. GEE, we still here on planet earth after all this time. BUT WAIT, dawn your helmets and run for the hills.
Originally posted by MoeFugga
reply to post by ngchunter
It's not just about 2012 DA14 but you are trying to say that there is nothing that can change an asteroids orbit and the science never makes mistakes.....
that last one that passed was alot larger than 2012 DA14
and was only Discovered a week ago,
so what if, just saying here, what if it was discovered a weekago but was on a direct path to Earth and lets say it was made up of very dense material (Like George Bush lol) can it still be predicted if it will burn up before impact?
what if it didn't impact but exploded in mid air like the 1908 event in Siberia?
Do you know the what elements make up 2012 DA14?, can you say with absolute certainty that it will never impact on earth ever?
I don't claim to be right, I do like to challenge those who have the knowledge such as yourself and I do not believe that it will impact in 2013, But I also think that it is ignorant and self righteous of us to think we can say with 100% certainty what will happen or beable to spot an asteroid on time...
and how will we stop it if we have enough notice? NASA claims it can me painted so that it can reflect heat changing it's core temp altering its coarse... but hey, what do I know