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Christianity? Did it really start with jesus?

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posted on Jun, 16 2012 @ 01:45 AM
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Alright for one this is my first thread s o I wanna make it good.
You might think "noo I think it started with Jesus so you crazy"
But hear me out. I thought about this after I read the story of Thor. How he came from Asgard to earth.
We all know that norse is way before the time Of jesus. So ok Thor came downfrom the sky and landed on earth. alright so led me to thinking ok it's just like Jesus how he came from heaven to stop our sins. So Odin is god ok. Now we have Loki who worn a horned helmet like he usually does. Think of him as the devil. Is this starting to make sense? There was never Christianity!!! The story of Thor isjust how it went down in the Jesus story except he didn't die he left earth differently the way Jesus did! It's like the apocalypse past already!!! This is one step to proving the existence of aliens If this is correct. COMMENT AWAY!!!




posted on Jun, 16 2012 @ 01:53 AM
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Christianity? Did it really start with jesus?

YES



Originally posted by KylePROxAlienator
So Odin is god ok. There was never Christianity!!!

Is this starting to make sense?

NO...



And WHO is Odin?




edit on 16-6-2012 by Murgatroid because: I felt like it..



posted on Jun, 16 2012 @ 02:08 AM
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Yeah, I agree with the poster above.
There are similarities between the story of Christ and other religious or mythological texts, but there are pretty simple reasons for this. A Messiah was promised immediately after the fall (cf Genesis 3), and was known to Adam and his children. There are hints throughout the Bible that show that the ancients knew who to expect. There are also "types" that indicate key truths about who the Messiah would be (cf the story of Joseph, for example, the lamb as a substitute in the story of Abraham, the blood on the lentils in the Exodus story, and so on).

These truths would have been known throughout all of Adam's descendants, it is logical to think that some of this would be retained in other mythologies. Other religions are not devoid of some truth: Christianity doesn't have a monopoly on what the truth is. The difference is that God the Father only offered ONE way, and that way was Christ. As Jesus Himself said, "I am the Way, the Truth and the Life, no man comes to the Father except through me".

There are authors out there, more learned than I am, who have found hints of a prefigured Christ in hinduism, for example, and in Islam, and in other world religions. This is, in part, what Paul talks about in the book of Romans. There are truths that may be known about God outside of the Bible, outside of Christianity itself; but the difference between Christ and religion is that in religion, man seeks God, desperately trying to attain to the level God demands (and failing miserably). In Christ, it is God who seeks man. Jesus came "to seek and to save that which was lost".

I could ramble forever, but I won't.
Suffice to say that... yes, Christianity did start with Jesus. Or, more specifically, it started with God the Father in Genesis 3, when the coming of Christ was first prophesied... long before Thor, or Odin, or any other religion.



posted on Jun, 16 2012 @ 02:15 AM
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Originally posted by KylePROxAlienator
So ok Thor came downfrom the sky and landed on earth. alright so led me to thinking ok it's just like Jesus how he came from heaven to stop our sins.

Yes. Christianity started with Jesus as in the name Jesus Christ.

Thor is no where near the same status as Jesus. Thor is actually Semihazah, one of the primary fallen watchers. Thor also went by the name Shemyazaz, Sêmîazâz, Semjâzâ, Samjâzâ, Shemyaza, and Shemhazai.

Note: in Hebrew: shem + ya'ah + aza equals "of the Name of power".

Note Thor's main weapon was lightning. The same weapon as used by Zeus in Greek mythology.

As for Odin, he is Oz also known as Azazel, Uzazel, Uzza.

Oh, btw, Thor didn't leave this world on his own accord. He was actually imprisoned by YHWH in Tartarus for 4000 years hanging upside down chained by his feet to a dark cave ceiling with a bottomless pit about a foot away from his head.

Straight from the horses mouth as they say.



posted on Jun, 16 2012 @ 02:20 AM
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Cool. I knew I wasn't really right on this thanks.



posted on Jun, 16 2012 @ 02:23 AM
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Originally posted by Murgatroid
Christianity? Did it really start with jesus?

YES



Originally posted by KylePROxAlienator
So Odin is god ok. Now we have Loki who worn a horned helmet like he usually does.

Is this starting to make sense?

NO...





edit on 16-6-2012 by Murgatroid because: I felt like it..


I absolutely adored this! Such clarity of thought. Simple and yet it hits with the passion of absolution! Bravo!

To the OP:

Movies are fun, but they are distorted and unrealistic; we live in Today, right now Reality! War in Syria!! Middle East! Do you think Thor can kind of get with it? Don't you think his hammer could do the trick?



posted on Jun, 16 2012 @ 02:25 AM
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Now that was awesome! Thanks



posted on Jun, 16 2012 @ 07:15 AM
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Well it's not called Christianity for peanuts! They never named the religion after Jesus' pet dog, Spot.

But all in all it's just a perversion of the original belief that was created to bend the will of men to the wants of those who desired power.

That's all...

Do as I say, lest ye be cast down to hell, where you will suffer for all eternity... Or else!



posted on Jun, 16 2012 @ 08:07 AM
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Christianity? Yes. The ideas behind Christianity? No. The tenets of Christianity are sprinkled liberally throughout cultures and belief systems much older. Christianity is just the newest incarnation of those ideas.

Check out Horus and Krishna for starters.



posted on Jun, 16 2012 @ 11:23 AM
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Christianity originated as a splinter sect of judaism. The truth is all those other religions were just corruptions of what YHWH created and when the Fallen Ones came, people worshipped them and accepted them as "gods" which is where the first commandment "I AM YHWH you shall have no other elohim before Me" or another translation as "I AM Elohim, you shall have no other elohim before me" or the modern english rendition "I AM the LORD your God, you shall have no other gods before me".

That and they were making little statues out of clay and metals like gold or silver to worship and carry around with them which YHWH really didn't like.



posted on Jun, 16 2012 @ 11:29 AM
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The truth is yes all those ancient religions have little grains of truth in them, but surrounded in huge ass lies because thats how Satan works, he uses serpent language to fool people into going down the wrong road. It's like having 6 doors in front of you, one door leads to the truth and eternal life, the other 5 doors lead to ugly parodies that lead to eternal death and each door has a gaurdian standing before it telling you it's own story, but you have to choose which door to walk through.
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posted on Jun, 16 2012 @ 01:13 PM
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We all know that norse is way before the time Of jesus.


But the spirit of Jesus was with His creation often in the garden of Eden. It was the spirit of Jesus who spoke to Moses in the burning bush (this is WAY before the Norse). It is the story of Jesus' resurrection that can be proven historically (based on all the independent evidence gathered) that Jesus is not only a mythological figure that Luci has tried to counterfeit in so many other iterations but that he is actually real and is God (a part of the trinitarian Godhead anyway).



posted on Jun, 16 2012 @ 02:40 PM
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This is correct. The first reference of this is found in the first sentence of the Old Testament, Genesis 1:1
www.mechon-mamre.org...
א בְּרֵאשִׁית, בָּרָא אֱלֹהִים, אֵת הַשָּׁמַיִם, וְאֵת הָאָרֶץ.

This is a menorah structure.
The 3 words before the 4'th word and the 3 words after all point to the servant lamp that was the active part of Creation, the Logos.
Yeshua is the basis of all the poser religions and poser gods that came after the act of Creation where Hayah spoke (Logos) all into existance. The Logos is the action part where all matter gained form. What you are addressing is the amazing part, where the Logos set aside His divinity and walked among the creation in a body of flesh. The light walked among the darkness.

They should make a movie about it or something



posted on Jun, 19 2012 @ 02:19 PM
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Originally posted by mainidh
Well it's not called Christianity for peanuts! They never named the religion after Jesus' pet dog, Spot.

But all in all it's just a perversion of the original belief that was created to bend the will of men to the wants of those who desired power.

That's all...

Do as I say, lest ye be cast down to hell, where you will suffer for all eternity... Or else!

Part of the NWO agenda is to keep the truth as far away from you and me as is possible. They have been extremely successful as you can see by the post I just quoted from. Simply by looking at the agenda, it is obvious.

The problem is that instead of looking at the agenda, people are looking at the propaganda and dis-info and thinking it is the truth. EVERYTHING you have been told is a LIE. The deception is so massive that people CANNOT see it and yet to those that DO see it, it is plain as day. If you DO agree with the person I quoted from above, you HAVE been horribly deceived.


Ultimately, the New World Order is about replacing the rule of God with the rule of Lucifer. That's why "God" has become a dirty word.

The goal of the Illuminati is to destroy Christianity and Western civilization. Illuminati worship lucifer and teach that Jesus is a myth. How can you be so blind as to the irony and absolute deception of this?

LINK


"The express aim of the Order was to abolish Christianity, and overturn all civil Government." John Robison, Proofs of a Conspiracy


But this is exactly the agenda: To destroy Christianity, just as they have destroyed empires, nations, heterosexual identities and nuclear families. The agenda is to strip people of power and identity leaving us defenceless in the face of one-world tyranny.

The present "world system", which is Satanic and seeks power for itself under Humanism, devoid of true God, aligns itself with base nature, presuming all glory to the creation rather than its glorious Creator. This is paganism. "For they exchanged the truth of God for a lie, and worshipped and served the creature rather than the Creator" (Romans 1).

Henry Makow PhD


"The MSM and Elites in control try to stop the truth it is their standard practice that when the words can not be controlled or the messenger murdered...then the next step is to DISCREDIT the messenger and obfuscate the message.

As, once the real truth comes out with no way of putting truth back into the bottle, the MSM resort to character assassination. Don't fall for it. And for sure, don't buy it as truth.

This is their real hidden agenda, distract, obfuscate, and feed falsehoods with biased reasoning's and logic.

Their agenda is to remain on top, their methods are to keep the truth as far away from you and me as is possible...including death threats, murder, and attack the messenger at all costs."

CIA Asset Blows Whistle







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posted on Jun, 19 2012 @ 08:09 PM
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Tried to watch the video on the CIA asset blowing the whistle and it was removed or some crap. Too bad, from your post it sounded interesting.

It's true though, "they" are trying to destroy the natural order God planned, and the earth and everyone in it along with the plan. It's getting to the point where you even say the name "Jesus" in public (unless it's as a swear word) and you will get arrested.



posted on Jun, 19 2012 @ 10:38 PM
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No, because he, she or it did not exist.

Christianity was started by a bunch of people that were very very perplexed in regards to the world around them.

A series of regulations were written down in story book form to control the people, changed over time, interpreted differently and enforced by the followers.

Unfortunately these rules and regulations are still followed today by some, although their numbers are decreasing thankfully…..

Mickierocksman



posted on Jun, 20 2012 @ 04:32 AM
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Originally posted by lonewolf19792000
 

Tried to watch the video on the CIA asset blowing the whistle and it was removed or some crap. Too bad, from your post it sounded interesting.

It's true though, "they" are trying to destroy the natural order God planned, and the earth and everyone in it along with the plan. It's getting to the point where you even say the name "Jesus" in public (unless it's as a swear word) and you will get arrested.


What they fail to realize is that God will use their NWO as a tool to bring about His own "New World Order".

This search will find what you were looking for.




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