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Syrian forces accused of sexual torture

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posted on Jun, 16 2012 @ 03:33 AM
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CNN's Matthew Chance details a U.N. report that found the Syrian military is possibly using children as human shields

Hows CNN credible again? oh thats right they are been one sided with the rebels.




posted on Jun, 16 2012 @ 05:34 AM
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posted on Jun, 16 2012 @ 06:46 AM
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Originally posted by milkyway12
First of all , sexual assault of women and young girls is customary in Muslim Detention centers. In Iran , it is WIDELY used as a weapon , hell Sexual assault in the Muslim community in the middle east is vastly more prominent than what it is in America.

They rape women or young girls in front of their fathers or husbands because some extremist believe it will keep them from going to heaven (the women / children). So.

Not only do innocent women and children die for their father's or husbands beliefs or actions , they rape them in front of them , then kill them , and then after all that , they kill the father or husband and in some cases , mark the father or husband and let him live with the shame and guilt.


It just doesn't #ing matter what situation or subject does it? Any chance to say or imply that your better.
You basically just said 'we rape less women then Muslims so were better.'
I can't stand people like you.
Its a shame Syria doesn't export oil to the US or else maybe then would have an excuse to bomb some more civilians and call them terrorists.
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posted on Jun, 16 2012 @ 09:13 AM
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The Shabiha...The Assad gov't should look into doping allegations against these "keepers of the piece". Don't these law enforcement officers understand the damage they are doing to their health? Not to mention the bad influence they are having on the youth of Syria?

I wonder if they have the same hook-up Barry Bonds has/had?

Sarcasm wouldn't be the same without life....



posted on Jun, 16 2012 @ 09:36 AM
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Whatever you want to believe man. Remember, invading Syria is good for business.

And in Israel, business is a booming.



posted on Jun, 16 2012 @ 10:28 AM
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posted on Jun, 16 2012 @ 12:20 PM
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Originally posted by Agent_USA_Supporter
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CNN's Matthew Chance details a U.N. report that found the Syrian military is possibly using children as human shields

Hows CNN credible again? oh thats right they are been one sided with the rebels.


I notice you've had no problem citing CNN when it suits your own pro-assad agenda.

Confirmation bias.



posted on Jun, 16 2012 @ 12:30 PM
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I really don't know what to believe about this Syria stuff.

I mean, American soldiers have been accused of the same exact things in Iraq and Afghanistan, are these propagandized isolated incidents, the kind that happen on every battfefield by out of line soldiers, or is it something the Syrian government is actually allowing? Is it happening at all?

Are we sure it isn't just a falsehood spread by the rebels. We do know there has been a lot of propaganda coming from the rebels. I mean, I don't support or even care about Assad's regime, I could really give like a million #s less, but I don't like seeing fellow American's fed propaganda by their government that comes frome some rebels that are a proxy for the US.



posted on Jun, 16 2012 @ 12:34 PM
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You can't back any of this up.

It's just racially biased b.s.

America has much more violent and sex crimes than most countries and I would say far more than Iran if you actually stood the numbers up. Every culture has rape stop parroting every peice of propaganda you hear. You sound like those babbling fools of the past calling everyone "commie pinkos." I hope you aren't an example of how most people in America think.



posted on Jun, 16 2012 @ 12:39 PM
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Originally posted by GogoVicMorrow

America has much more violent and sex crimes than most countries and I would say far more than Iran if you actually stood the numbers up.


Well, then please, by all means, stand the numbers up and prove your claim.



posted on Jun, 16 2012 @ 12:44 PM
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Originally posted by ludwigvonmises003
ABC is not a credible news source.NDAA has made it legal to print propaganda in American media.


What color is the sky in your world?

The NDAA has absolutely nothing to do with civilian media.

Our 1st amendment allows our media to report / print, and yes including propoganda. The difference between the US and Syria is we have the ability to challenge those sources and call them out. We have the ability to take what the government says and research it and to call them out.

None of which is present in Syria.

You really should read the law before making a false claim about it.



posted on Jun, 16 2012 @ 12:47 PM
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Well statistics for Iran aren't great, but anyone that isn't a complete fool knows that Iran isn't some incivilized hell hole. They live normal lives, go to college and work, get online, etc. They are harder on crime and obviously crack down on dissent and protest which is unfortunate (although that is the direction we are heading too). They have a huge Jewish population that is completely incorporated into their culture and they have nothing against Jewish people (that isn't relevant to my eventual point, but helps paint the true picture).

They execute 7 times as many people yearly than the US, however they only have 226 prisoners per 100,000 people meanwhile America as 715 prisoners per 100,000 people. If you think people just run around raping people and justifying it with Islam in Iran than you are as hoplessly foolish as the person I was originally replying to.



posted on Jun, 16 2012 @ 12:51 PM
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I wonder who is starting this propaganda, the average Syrian citizen

Syria troops use sexual violence



(Reuters) / 16 June 2012
www.reuters.com... is-detention-idUSBRE85E0HL20120615


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BEIRUT — Government forces have used rape and other sexual violence against men, women and children during the Syrian uprising, Human Rights Watch said on Friday.

The US-based group said it had recorded 20 incidents from interviews inside and outside Syria with eight victims, including four women, and more than 25 other people with knowledge of sexual abuse — including medical workers, former detainees, army defectors, and women’s rights activists.

“Sexual violence in detention is one of many horrific weapons in the Syrian government’s torture arsenal and Syrian security forces regularly use it to humiliate and degrade detainees with complete impunity,” said Sarah Leah Whitson, Middle East director at HRW.

“The assaults are not limited to detention facilities — government forces and pro-government shabiha militia members have also sexually assaulted women and girls during home raids and residential sweeps.”

Cases were reported all around Syria, but most of all in Homs province, an epicentre of the revolt.

HRW quoted a man who said he had been held in the Political Security branch in Latakia in a cell with over 70 other people.

He said young boys were treated worse than adults, brought back to the cell raped and with their fingernails pulled out. “One boy came into the cell bleeding from behind. He couldn’t walk. It was something they just did to the boys. We would cry for them,” the man said.

HRW said many of the assaults were in circumstances in which commanding officers knew or should have known the crimes, such as electric shocks to genitalia, were taking place. In another face-to-face interview a woman from the Karm Al Zeitoun neighbourhood of Homs city which was overrun by Syrian troops said she heard security forces and shabiha militia rape her neighbours while she hid in her apartment in March.

“I could hear one girl fighting with one of (the men)... She pushed him and he shot her in the head,” HRW quoted the woman as saying.

She said three girls, the youngest aged 12, were then raped. After the men left the woman went next door. “The scene on the inside was unreal. The 12-year-old was lying on the ground, blood to her knees... More than one person had raped the 12-year-old... She was torn the length of a forefinger. I will never go back there. It comes to me. I see it in my dreams and I just cry.”

Some interviewees told HRW that victims did not want their families to know about the assault because of fear or shame.

In one case, Human Rights Watch said a female rape victim was willing to be interviewed but her husband forbade it


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posted on Jun, 16 2012 @ 01:37 PM
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when it suits your own pro-assad agenda.


And you previously claimed that you don't support neither side yet your believing everything what CNN claims.

Care to explain why CNN has been one sided with the rebels?



posted on Jun, 16 2012 @ 01:39 PM
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Well, then please, by all means, stand the numbers up and prove your claim.

Your agenda is showing up.



posted on Jun, 16 2012 @ 01:39 PM
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Originally posted by Agent_USA_Supporter
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when it suits your own pro-assad agenda.


And you previously claimed that you don't support neither side yet your believing everything what CNN claims.


Please prove this statement with even one example.



posted on Jun, 16 2012 @ 01:40 PM
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Originally posted by Agent_USA_Supporter
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Well, then please, by all means, stand the numbers up and prove your claim.

Your agenda is showing up.


Indeed. My agenda is to analyze facts and try and come up with an accurate understanding of the situation without any previously-existing confirmation bias.

Unlike you.

I'm not exactly hiding it.



posted on Jun, 16 2012 @ 01:42 PM
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Originally posted by GogoVicMorrow
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Well statistics for Iran aren't great, but anyone that isn't a complete fool knows that Iran isn't some incivilized hell hole. They live normal lives, go to college and work, get online, etc. They are harder on crime and obviously crack down on dissent and protest which is unfortunate (although that is the direction we are heading too). They have a huge Jewish population that is completely incorporated into their culture and they have nothing against Jewish people (that isn't relevant to my eventual point, but helps paint the true picture).

They execute 7 times as many people yearly than the US, however they only have 226 prisoners per 100,000 people meanwhile America as 715 prisoners per 100,000 people. If you think people just run around raping people and justifying it with Islam in Iran than you are as hoplessly foolish as the person I was originally replying to.


.I asked you to prove your claim that "America has much more violent and sex crimes than most countries and I would say far more than Iran if you actually stood the numbers up. "

Your response does not address that claim.



posted on Jun, 16 2012 @ 02:15 PM
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I found some numbers if you want i will post them.



posted on Jun, 16 2012 @ 02:17 PM
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"America has much more violent and sex crimes than most countries and I would say far more than Iran if you actually stood the numbers up. "

What that user said is pretty much accurate, people have been kidnapped, and in most cases all of them are never seen again, they are either sold, or traded in Porn rings.

In the some worst cases they are killed.

Here you go.
SEXUAL ASSAULT STATISTICS
Source
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