Future Is Bright For Australians If United States Loses WW3

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posted on Jun, 15 2012 @ 06:50 PM
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It looks like Australia will be dragged in to WW3 by the American Government. We all know that China has no problem with Australia apart from our military alliance with the United States. Australia is great friends with China and has been since the early 90's when Paul Keating was our Prime Minister.

If anyone knows anything about regional politics you would know that China does not have many good friends in our part of the world. Behind North Korea, we are their best buds in this area of the world. The phenomenal rise of China has been assisted by its friendship with Australia. China in turn has helped Australia rise to the number 1 ranked OECD nation. We have been great partners.

When the GFC was destroying western economies, Australia and China had little trouble. The GFC actually helped both of us. We both got a bump in our international standing. Australia did so well that our mediocre Treasurer, Wayne Swan was won an award, being named Euromoney Finance Minister of the Year
China won the award for him.

We have a strong economy because of the resources boom and Chinas investment in our mining industry. Mining is the big thing at the moment that we offer China. but mining is not the only thing. Like I said, the chinese have been investing heavily in Australia since the early 90's and before. The Chinese have been moving here to live and becoming Australians. The Chinese have have been coming to study here in our Universities for years. The Chinese have been coming here to holiday for years. They love our beaches and nice weather. They love our cities. They love our women/men. They love our casinos. They love our culture. They have been with us as far back as the Gold Rush.

It is in Australias best interest for the Chinese economy to remain strong. The Chinese will continue to come here. Australia is the West in the East. We are everything. We are the most multicultural place on the planet. One but many. No other western nation is lucky enough to be in a geographic position to take advantage of the shift in power and capital from the West to the East like Australia is.

It has always been a disadvantage for Australia to be located in the East for so many reasons. Now it has become an advantage. The East is where all the power is now. The capital has shifted. The only thing left is for China to take control of the Reserve Currency. When China gets the Reserve Currency Status soon, the standard of living and wealth per capita will rise significantly for the Chinese and Australia as its neighbour with alot to offer, will benifit.

Like I said, it looks like the American Government will drag us in to war with China and get many of our people killed for no good reason other than helping them maintain their status as superpower. But I think China will defeat us easily. We are still located in the right part of the world evn if we are conquered. Western Australia wants to become part of asia already. Would it be so bad to be ruled by the Chinese Government? They have gotta be better than boot licking Gillard. Better than Tony Abbott. The major parties are puppets of the US Government. They are simply an extension of the US Government. China is doing a great job at running its country. No nation has risen like China. They are an economic miracle.

People like to use imagery of Mao Zedong or bring up the moochers of Tibet or the a couple other things when China is mentioned. I am not afraid of China. They have done a much better job than the United States has at running their country. China is the future. I think China is a little bit like Darth Vader in Empire Strikes Back and Australia is Luke Skywalker. Darth want Luke to join him so they can rule the universe together. I wonder what would have happened if Luke had have taken him up on his offer. We know Darth wasnt such a bad dude deep down. I think that Anakin and Luke Skywalker could have ruled a pretty happy universe at the end of the day once they put The Emperor in his place. Maybe they could have reasoned with The Emperor and convinced him to stand down and it could have been resolved without any trouble.



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posted on Jun, 15 2012 @ 06:56 PM
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Interesting. I thought China was buying all of your mines and sending immigrants by the boatload. Are you sure that you are not inline to become a prefecture?



posted on Jun, 15 2012 @ 06:57 PM
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some of us would fight tooth and nail to prevent a Chinese takeover of anything,
no way in hell i'm living under a Chinese dictatorship of any kind, in any lifetime.

no Chinese, American, Russian or any other kind of system that manipulates it's citizenry to maintain a supremacy,
we will abolish them all soon enough.

word of the wise,

THE REBELS ALWAYS WIN.


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posted on Jun, 15 2012 @ 07:02 PM
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Quite a few Chinese in Australia

My bets is you're one of them






That's so cringe, you must think this forum is full of absolute morons not to see through these childish GO CHINA posts & "friend symbols" you need to try harder and try to disguise the fact you're not so GO CHINA, if you want to be able to get away with being an Australian... just saying


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posted on Jun, 15 2012 @ 07:02 PM
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I think that's an intersting point. I also fear Australias aliegence lies strong with the British Empire. Well an truly alive, as can be still seen up to this day in project Echelon, mainly compramised of the 5 British nations.

If America were to fall, the west still has long reaching arms.


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posted on Jun, 15 2012 @ 07:04 PM
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Wrong.


While we earn substantially from Chinese students, for instance, most of them don't become ambassadors of goodwill on their return. Their level of engagement with the Australian host culture is often minimal.



Tourism also tends to involve limited meaningful contact, though it can lead to people pursuing deeper ties longer term.



But Ding Dou, a Beijing University professor, who described Australia and China as "economic friends, strategically distant", said he had "a strong sense that China does not have too much interest in Australia now".


China"has a daydream that Australia will walk away from the US and build a close relationship with China". But mostly it is awake to the remoteness of that prospect. "If the China-US relationship becomes fractious, the China-Australia relationship gets worse."


After 40 years the China-Australia relationship is underachieving

Sorry,you're wrong.



posted on Jun, 15 2012 @ 07:05 PM
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If you look how China allows some of its client states in Africa to treat their people, I think you'd reconsider how good things would be if China supported some amoral regime there in Australia or anywhere. They're pragmatic enough to not care how you're structured so long as they get what they need, but I shiver to think of how it would go if you had resources they needed and you weren't giving them.



posted on Jun, 15 2012 @ 07:08 PM
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Originally posted by DarthMuerte
Interesting. I thought China was buying all of your mines and sending immigrants by the boatload. Are you sure that you are not inline to become a prefecture?


China are our buds. They have been for a long time. The military build up in the pacific puts us in a very difficult position. And China is a great trading partner. Unlike the United states who offers pretty much nothing other than consumers spending a falling inflated US Dollar.

This is what the United states government does for us when it is not trying to ruin our ecominc future and get our people killed.


To the Honourable The Speaker and Members of the House of Representatives This petition of concerned citizens draws to the attention of the House: The Australian government is negotiating a Trans-Pacific Partnership free trade agreement (TPPA) with the US, New Zealand, Chile, Peru, Brunei, Singapore, Malaysia and Vietnam. But the agenda is being set by giant US corporations. They see many Australian health, social, cultural and environmental policies are barriers to trade which should be removed. They want to use the negotiations to undermine the Pharmaceutical Benefits Scheme and charge higher prices for medicines, to give special rights for corporations to sue governments, to remove labelling of genetically modified food, to undermine local jobs and fair employment conditions for government contracts, and to weaken policies for Australian content in film, television and digital media. They also oppose including enforceable labour rights and environmental protections in the agreement. We therefore ask the House not to support any agreement which undermines any of the above listed policies, to support the inclusion of enforceable labour rights and environmental protections in the agreement, and to support publication of the text of the agreement for public and parliamentary debate before it is ratified.

parlinfo.aph.gov.au...;page=0;query=TPPA;rec=0;resCount=Default

Unlike the American Government and many of Americans, the rest of the world actually makes efforts to look out for their low socia-economic citizens/families. We value our Public Health system for example. You would prefer it if your imperial corporatist government left our Pharmaveutical benifits scheme alone. You may be happy to live under a corpoaratist regime but I am not. i do not understand many Americans and their lack of empathy for the poor. most of the rest of us are more civilized.


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posted on Jun, 15 2012 @ 07:09 PM
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I hope your friends(China) pay you well... Oh wait, they don't pay anybody jack ____.

Go ahead, buddy up with a country that has unfair labor practices, distorting world markets, and...

human rights in the peoples republic of China
en.wikipedia.org...

They manipulated the world into thinking that they had a growing economy, that bubble will burst right in your face.

I'm going to choose my battles wisely, and not further argue this craziness. Call me bias, but the American people, and the Freedoms that WE DO HAVE is enough for me. When was the last time 30 million people died in the US due to starvation?

BTW... China's economy is about to COLLAPSE! People though the US financial collapse was big...
How many ghost cities that can house 5 million plus do you see in the US?

ahh... this could go on all day, I'm done.

I'm not claiming that the US is better than China, but it's clearly evident which is the proper choice.

Now go ahead, tell me how terrible the US government is! How deep does the conspiratorial rabbit hole of ignorance go?

BTW, how's that Australia–China Free Trade Agreement going?
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posted on Jun, 15 2012 @ 07:11 PM
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Yep! Blame the Imperialist United States for your countries problems right?? How about blaming those citizens in your own country for allowing you government to allow this to happen? (To the rest of you from Australia, I am not directing this to you, but Germanicus has a history of blaming Americans for allowing our government to get away with doing what they do, so I am taking this opportunity to ask him why he, being an Australian, is blaming Americans for HIS government selling him out!)

Were you not the one the other day that said it was the people of America that allowed our government to do what it is doing throughout the world???? That we as Americans were responsible because we elected them???? Wait a minute! Did we elect your officials into office???

Well instead of blaming America for your problems, let me ask you why you aren't blaming your government in Australia for allowing it to happen????? Your a hypocrit!!!!! Plain and simple! You want to call out Americans for allowing our government to do things, but when YOUR government does things you don't like, why don't I see you blaming yourself or other Australians???????

Oh, never mind, I understand! It is much easier to blame others than to look at yourself in the mirror????


Oh, BTW! Don't send me a U2U threatening me pal! I would much rather meet you face to face!



posted on Jun, 15 2012 @ 07:15 PM
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Originally posted by sonnny1
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Wrong.


While we earn substantially from Chinese students, for instance, most of them don't become ambassadors of goodwill on their return. Their level of engagement with the Australian host culture is often minimal.



Tourism also tends to involve limited meaningful contact, though it can lead to people pursuing deeper ties longer term.



But Ding Dou, a Beijing University professor, who described Australia and China as "economic friends, strategically distant", said he had "a strong sense that China does not have too much interest in Australia now".


China"has a daydream that Australia will walk away from the US and build a close relationship with China". But mostly it is awake to the remoteness of that prospect. "If the China-US relationship becomes fractious, the China-Australia relationship gets worse."


After 40 years the China-Australia relationship is underachieving

Sorry,you're wrong.


Wrong. Sorry, you are wrong.

What facts does the hack from 'The australian' give? Any? That is a bunch of nonsense.

And what does the US offer again? Oh, thats right. Nothing. Nothing at all. Oh wait a minute. The US offers doom. We cant cant forget the doom now can we?

China is overpopulated is another thing. We are the perfect place for them to spread out into.

The power has shifted. the United states is doomed. Its too late now. Did they think they could just run their economy into the ground at the expense of the rest of us forever?


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posted on Jun, 15 2012 @ 07:17 PM
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Another of your over the top Rah Rah Go China threads?


All I'm going to say is

That's Your Kool-Aid


Bottoms up....



posted on Jun, 15 2012 @ 07:18 PM
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India



India showed a negative growth of -9.1% during March 2011–2012, according to the latest Knight Frank Prime Global Cities Index,


China Trade Growth Slumps



China’s exports and imports both grew considerably more slowly than expected last month, the Chinese government announced on Thursday, in one of the clearest signals yet of lingering and possibly worsening weakness in the world’s second biggest economy.



The "Global" recession was engineered



posted on Jun, 15 2012 @ 07:19 PM
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Future Is Bright For Australians If United States Loses WW3

How can you possibly say that? Every single Australian could be dead by then for all you know.

It may be hotter than the sun, skin-meltingly bright for a short while but I doubt very much that WW3 will leave any country with a future any brighter than it would have been if the war wasn't fought in the first place.

"...the moochers of Tibet..." - Seriously?


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posted on Jun, 15 2012 @ 07:20 PM
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China is best friends at Australia?

That is laughable China will buy you out like they have everyone else, and then Australia is going to end up like all those Chinese workers committing suicide working for apple.


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posted on Jun, 15 2012 @ 07:20 PM
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I have never witnessed someone so infatuated with being ruled over by a tyrannical communist regime. You will be silenced from voicing your opinion once China gets control of your internet. No more posting unless in service to the Chinese communist party.

I suggest we put together a charitable fund to help Germanicus immigrate to China so he can go to work in an Apple factory for $10 a day...I mean 70 Renminbi a day. There he can enjoy the fresh air, clean water, and 3 rice bowls a day.

By the way. On the first day of a war with China there is one thing that is sure to happen. No more shipping to China from anywhere. Since the Aussie economy depends entirely on selling ore to China I guess reality will hit pretty hard. Don't worry. The US is the largest exporter of food in the world. I'm sure we can send you some rice and stuff out of good will.


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posted on Jun, 15 2012 @ 07:21 PM
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Originally posted by Germanicus
the United states is doomed. Its too late now.


Your wish,wont come true. No matter how HARD you want it to be.


Besides,The History between America,Australia,and Britain,is and will always be strong. Blood spilled together,for the sake of Peace,and protection. THAT WONT CHANGE.


BTW,Hitler said the same thing about Britain. Britain was doomed............

Look at what Nationalistic Pride,and stupidity got him........



posted on Jun, 15 2012 @ 07:21 PM
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Originally posted by seeker1963
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Yep! Blame the Imperialist United States for your countries problems right?? How about blaming those citizens in your own country for allowing you government to allow this to happen? (To the rest of you from Australia, I am not directing this to you, but Germanicus has a history of blaming Americans for allowing our government to get away with doing what they do, so I am taking this opportunity to ask him why he, being an Australian, is blaming Americans for HIS government selling him out!)

Were you not the one the other day that said it was the people of America that allowed our government to do what it is doing throughout the world???? That we as Americans were responsible because we elected them???? Wait a minute! Did we elect your officials into office???

Well instead of blaming America for your problems, let me ask you why you aren't blaming your government in Australia for allowing it to happen????? Your a hypocrit!!!!! Plain and simple! You want to call out Americans for allowing our government to do things, but when YOUR government does things you don't like, why don't I see you blaming yourself or other Australians???????

Oh, never mind, I understand! It is much easier to blame others than to look at yourself in the mirror????


Oh, BTW! Don't send me a U2U threatening me pal! I would much rather meet you face to face!


I have never sent a threatening U2u. you must be paranoid.

And I think most australians are as dumb as most americans. surprise surprise. I talk about that alot on thepunch. It is a political website in Australia.

news flash. Our politicians are afraid of the United States. To speak out against your governments orders is a political no no. Your government will hurt us politically and you have the CIA that kills people. Many think that our former Prime Minister Harold Holt was killed by the CIA. Your government is a monster.

Our government does not kill people and our government has no real power. It is just an extansion of yours. The only people that can control your mental military and destroyed economy is americans. So no. I am not a hypocrite at all.

dont get angry at me because your country is doomed. I know it is scary but it isnt my fault.



posted on Jun, 15 2012 @ 07:22 PM
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Yes, as you say, "good friends," but you eventually would be dead meat if the US (forget the UK) was not your other type of friend on the other side of the table.



posted on Jun, 15 2012 @ 07:26 PM
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Originally posted by seeker1963
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Yep! Blame the Imperialist United States for your countries problems right?? How about blaming those citizens in your own country for allowing you government to allow this to happen? (To the rest of you from Australia, I am not directing this to you, but Germanicus has a history of blaming Americans for allowing our government to get away with doing what they do, so I am taking this opportunity to ask him why he, being an Australian, is blaming Americans for HIS government selling him out!)

Were you not the one the other day that said it was the people of America that allowed our government to do what it is doing throughout the world???? That we as Americans were responsible because we elected them???? Wait a minute! Did we elect your officials into office???

Well instead of blaming America for your problems, let me ask you why you aren't blaming your government in Australia for allowing it to happen????? Your a hypocrit!!!!! Plain and simple! You want to call out Americans for allowing our government to do things, but when YOUR government does things you don't like, why don't I see you blaming yourself or other Australians???????

Oh, never mind, I understand! It is much easier to blame others than to look at yourself in the mirror????


Oh, BTW! Don't send me a U2U threatening me pal! I would much rather meet you face to face!


The hilarious part about your comment, in regards to Germanicus always spouting off some anti-American rhetoric, and displaying an escapist fashion as to accepting responsibility.

Before clicking on the link for the Thread, I thought to myself... 'Ahh geeze, I bet this is Germanicus at his best again.' What do you know!? There he is... lol.

I'm absolutely disgusted by the escaping of responsibility that I have been seeing lately in regards to people blaming their government for everything. Not realizing, who put them into office. I guess it's a little different living in the grand ole' USA. Although, that doesn't imply that this nonsense isn't present here, for it is alive and healthy.

Booo!!!

"I'm not crossing that road, the government built it, and there's no representative to hold my hand"

create your future, or stand aside... here's a bus stop, maybe public transportation is more your thing.





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