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Originally posted by redneck13
The washing of the brains continues...........5 times a day
Originally posted by redneck13
reply to post by LightningStrikesHere
I was hoping to learn something from you
since you seem to be far more knowledgeable then I especially a person that prays five times a day, that you could offer me some wisdom from the Qumran. I hope by understanding it better I could walk through life as blissful as yourself
The Gnostics removed that chapter along with a TON of other verses in their 3 manuscripts because it didn't align with their doctrines. Look at Irenaeus's quote about Marcion "mutilating the scriptures". The Gnostics rejected Christ's literal death and resurrection, so you can't have Mark 16 now can ya?
Originally posted by LightningStrikesHere
Originally posted by redneck13
reply to post by apushforenlightment
Can a wealthy man enter heaven?
It would be easier to thread a camel through the eye of a needle
However, all is possible through God
Baptism takes place when you come to the realization that Christ died for our sins
The reason for Baptism is that you are professing your faith in Jesus
It symbolizes the resurrection and your re-birth into the Holy Spirit
edit on 15-6-2012 by redneck13 because: /
my good man ... that is all fine and dandy .......... but lets prove this to be true
Originally posted by LightningStrikesHere
Originally posted by Azadok2day
reply to post by LightningStrikesHere
If you can not have faith enough to believe that God made sure we had exactly what he meant for us to have when they wrote the KJV bible and doubt the bible is factual then you and all like you have no real faith in God.
The KJV Bible turned 400 years old last year in 2011 that is ten forties , ten in in the bible represent divine perfection and forty represents probation. Last year the judgement of man began after Gods Devine perfection of giving man ten generations of probation to trust in that bible to guide them to Gd and protect them from Satan .
By the way the number 11 in the bible marks disorder and judgement and it also just so happens that every person of age ( above 13) had the number 111 common to them . If you took the last two digets of the year you were born and your age it came to 111 . One person is the first 1 and then judgment and disorder for the 11 for every single person on earth .
You should really rethink about the word of God and stop listening to these so called scripture lawyers. Gd has a plan and the KJV bible is part of it and these numbers I showed you are no coincidence but are very much part of the plan for those with eyes to see andears to hear. Peace
with all do respect , the "bible" has no impact on my "faith" in god my good man , i know god is very real , therefor faith is not needed , because i know , and it feels very good to walk through life knowing , and the bible never gave me that , the only thing the bible ever did for me was "questions" yes it forced me to question my religion at that time , as i was a christen once , the parables ect ect , , so yes maybe it guided me ... it guided me away from Christianity .... and away from Christianity is where i found god ....and love ....... and please do not tell me that i am misguided , i have so much love and compassion now, i would never return to an organised creation of man .. and believe me i say this with a pure humble heart ,
your brother
Love LSH
if you are serious , i would LOVE help you out in anyway i can , and just because the quran worked for me , it might not be your path , only god knows what path you need to take , but rest assure you will find it . but you have to want it ...
Originally posted by redneck13
fresh thread
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By Chris Brooke
PUBLISHED: 01:05 GMT, 15 June 2012 | UPDATED: 16:18 GMT, 15 June 20
Bring me the knuckle of John the Baptist: Scientists claim 'positive' tests on 1st-century relics which are from one man, from the right place at the right timeDNA tests on three bones confirmed they were probably from someone of Middle East origin - where John the Baptist came from
They also established they were likely to be from a man
Lol, you can google Irenaeus's quotes about Marcion. They are easily researchable on the net.
Originally posted by LightningStrikesHere
Originally posted by redneck13
reply to post by LightningStrikesHere
I was hoping to learn something from you
since you seem to be far more knowledgeable then I especially a person that prays five times a day, that you could offer me some wisdom from the Qumran. I hope by understanding it better I could walk through life as blissful as yourself
if you are serious , i would LOVE help you out in anyway i can , and just because the quran worked for me , it might not be your path , only god knows what path you need to take , but rest assure you will find it . but you have to want it ...
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Islamic texts categorically deny the idea of crucifixion or death attributed to Jesus by the Bible.[5][20] The Quran states that people (i.e., the Jews and Romans) sought to kill Jesus, but they did not crucify nor kill him, although "this was made to appear to them." Muslims believe that Jesus was not crucified but instead, he was raised up by God unto the heavens. This "raising" is understood to mean through bodily ascension.
That they said (in boast), "We killed Christ Jesus the son of Mary, the Messenger of Allah";- but they killed him not, nor crucified him, but so it was made to appear to them, and those who differ therein are full of doubts, with no (certain) knowledge, but only conjecture to follow, for of a surety they killed him not:-
Nay, Allah raised him up unto Himself; and Allah is Exalted in Power, Wise;-
—Quran sura 4 (Al-Nisa النساء) ayah 157-158[21]
Discussing the interpretation of those scholars who deny the crucifixion, the Encyclopaedia of Islam writes:
The denial, furthermore, is in perfect agreement with the logic of the Quran. The Biblical stories reproduced in it (e.g., Job, Moses, Joseph etc.) and the episodes relating to the history of the beginning of Islam demonstrate that it is "God's practice" (sunnat Allah) to make faith triumph finally over the forces of evil and adversity. "So truly with hardship comes ease", (XCIV, 5, 6). For Jesus to die on the cross would have meant the triumph of his executioners; but the Quran asserts that they undoubtedly failed: "Assuredly God will defend those who believe"; (XXII, 49). He confounds the plots of the enemies of Christ
Originally posted by jmdewey60
reply to post by NOTurTypical
Lol, you can google Irenaeus's quotes about Marcion. They are easily researchable on the net.
Anything can be Googled, so what is your point?
What is it exactly that you think can be found in this way that would support your claims?
I doubt that you know and just believe that there is something out there, based on the regard you have for who produced the YouTube videos you listen to, in a cult member fashion.
edit on 16-6-2012 by jmdewey60 because: (no reason given)
You're the one who acts like Irenaeus didn't let the cat out of the bag about what Marcion and his followers were doing in Egypt.
I have the books and READ them, no "YouTube Videos" required!!!
The volume is his attack on Gnosticism basically.