30-foot young diseased humpback whale beaches near Vancouver and dies, page 1


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reply posted on 15-6-2012 @ 01:28 AM by SoymilkAlaska
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im sure this has something to do with fukushima + monsanto.


reply posted on 15-6-2012 @ 02:08 AM by plube
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Wow your fast on the uptake....yup jump right on the bandwagon....blame fukishima....you know sheep work in both directions it seems....the sheep who follow blindly to every bit of propaganda out there....and the ones who think every conspiracy fits into every scenario that is out there....rather than stepping back and thinking things through or waiting to see if there might be other circumstances to which may have contributed to this poor whales demise......I mean it could even be (heaven forbid) Natural causes that may have befell this creature.

Just like people....Animals die....for a vast amount of reasons.....as mentioned above it could be fishing net.....maybe not natural...or as flamboyant as fukishima but hey....and then you would need to ask yourself.....would Radiation be affecting the larger animals out there first....or would it be affecting say the smaller creatures first....I mean come on logical thinking here...what would be affected first the larger or smaller creatures...my guess would be you would see die off of smaller animals that would be getting a high rad dosage.

I am not having a great dig....but it gets boring when people just jump onto "it's Fukishima" thang....it does not contribute to anything...and it is fear mongering....All the people who think that mass amounts of radiation is out there killing things off is just out there....the people who have the most concern right now are the japanese people and they are located right close to the site....there was very little actual fallout....it did not reach the upper atmosphere.....Am i saying there is no worries...no...but i am saying just do not blow things out of proportion.....the sad thing is the loss of yet another beautiful great beast of the deep blue seas.....


reply posted on 15-6-2012 @ 02:17 AM by bacci0909
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Look man.. what the hell do you expect? Something catastrophic happened just an ocean away and NOBODYS TELLING US THE TRUTH ABOUT IT

We're all sitting around waiting for answers and now this YOUNG whale rolls in.. where? Not Maine, not Georgia, not South America or Norway, but Vancouver. One of a handful of places that COULD possibly imply that it's a result of Fukushima. So yeah.. we're gonna go there. Any logical and concerned person would think it immediatley
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reply posted on 15-6-2012 @ 02:34 AM by plube
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Actually any logical and concerned individual would learn about the affects of radiation and how fallout is the main carrier of the radiation

this might help....SOURCE

Also....SOURCE

Also i have a concern....most my family live in and around the Vancouver area...and Vancouver Island.....so it is a concern of mine to learn the cumulative effects of the radiation.

I myself will not become sucked in by the propaganda, It is safer to arm yourself with knowledge than to run in fear from ignorance.

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reply posted on 15-6-2012 @ 03:03 AM by aaaiii
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wow. do you know what a wiener is?

think about that while you're treating others more politely.


reply posted on 15-6-2012 @ 09:38 AM by plube
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Oh sorry was i rude by saying jumping on the Bandwagon.....Did i call someone names.....Are you not able to take criticism...should i treat adults...(I suspect we are) with kid gloves....Do i have to agree blindly and go excuse me sir....Or miss....I think not.....The point was and is valid....There is no reason to blame the death of this poor creature on some speculative remark.....Should i just go oh It's ok....Or should I be kinder to give some advice on looking into all possible circumstances that may have lead to the demise of this animal rather than blindly just stating it's Fukushima...... I gave a person who said it in a thread about Deformed cherries and the person who started the thread actually came back and Acknowledged they might have not looked at the entire picture....
Now that is the way it works is it not....did i call someone an Idiot or Stupid....man .....No i did not......If the person who i said this to would take it as something constructive rather than a negative then it has been well received....But it is good to see people come to the defense of others....it does show some sympathy and compassion.....Should i apologize....I don't think so...Did I say it wasn't Radiation...Noooo....So please show me where i was so rude that it stood out so blatantly ......The statement was...basically ...Do not jump to conclusions....It would take a cumulative amount of cessium 137 to kill this animal....and yes negligible amounts have been found in some tuna off the coast of the USA. But to accumulate enough in this Animal would take a vast amount of tuna to be ingested by this beast to cause it's actual death....I was stating that it is not Obvious that it's demise was due to Fukushima....so what is so rude about that....Please let me know.....Also The person i spoke to is quite free to come back and reply just as you were.
Is there a problem with radiation....YES....IS it the Cause of this Animals demise....LOGICALLY.....most likely not.

Also was this what the OP was saying.....Not in my interpretation of what the OP was saying....they were saddened by this wonderful creatures death.....but someone also looked on the other side and said it means they were inhabiting local waters which was a good sign....So please in your infinite wisdom....show how constructive criticism is considered rude.
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reply posted on 16-6-2012 @ 02:46 AM by violet
I will say this one more time: it was entangled in fishing line.
That's why it was unable to swim and eat and washed ashore. Not radiation or poisoning.
It was alive when they found it and died one hour later. It pretty much starved to death.
Fishing line killed whale
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The fishing industry is usually responsible for the death of fish
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Dolphins and whales are often unfortunately caught up in the nets.
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