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Originally posted by mammybethy77
reply to post by TheTardis
I am curious as to why there are concentrated quantities of aluminum in our soils and our vegetation...
Originally posted by Scooter66
Ive been a short-time lurker on ATS. Love it! Im one of the believers in "Chemtrails" since coming across the topic on-line last year. As soon I read about it, I started to notice them here in Ottawa, Canada. My question is, how do the de-bunkers explain the fact that if chemtrails are truly contrails then why havent people been noticing and reporting these "chem-contrails" for the past 50 years? And dont say its because there are now more planes in the air. I know I never saw these growing up???
Originally posted by phishyblankwaters
reply to post by The_Seeker
Contrails - Dissipate,
Chemtrails - expand and try to disguise themselves as clouds.
See. That right there is why people like me have all but given up on this. You clearly DON'T know how to distinguish a normal contrail from something else, as clearly you have no understand of what a contrail is, how it forms, and what causes it to linger.
Contrails are not new. They were commonly seen in World War II behind bombers and fighter planes. These can be seen on the Internet in vintage newsreels and still photographs of combat missions. These trails look similar to what we see in our skies today, but there are several very important differences. True contrails, such as created by these planes, are composed of water vapor in engine exhaust that freezes into ice crystals on contact with very cold air. What we see are clouds of small ice crystals. If the air is not below freezing, there will be no trails.
Those in denial can usually concoct some near-plausible explanation for everything mentioned so far, but there is no escaping the reality of a chemical analysis of rain water, snow pack, and plant absorption of compounds of aluminum, barium, strontium, and similar metals that are extreme hazards to the environment and health. Some of the compounds are natural to the soil, but not in the high levels they now are being found, almost always immediately following several days or weeks of spraying.
Depending on the temperature and humidity at the altitude the contrail forms, they may be visible for only a few seconds or minutes, or may persist for hours and spread to be several miles wide.
Contrails are human-induced clouds that only form at very high altitudes (usually above 8 km - about 26,000 ft) where the air is extremely cold (less than -40°C). Because of this contrails form not when an airplane is taking off or landing, but while it is at cruise altitude. (Exceptions occur in places like Alaska and Canada, where such very cold air can sometimes be at or near ground level.) Thus, people who live under major air traffic routes, not those who live near major airports, are those who will see the most contrails. (However, some major airports are also under major air traffic routes, which can lead to confusion.) You can use an Appleman chart to predict contrail formation for your area. Of course, a contrail cannot form if no airplane passes through.
So using this information they calculate the height of the plane at 20,000 feet, which they then claim is too low for contrails to form. Obviously it’s not,
Contrails are possible any time the outside air temperature is cold enough. The reason that they are rarely seen at low altitudes is because low altitude air tends to be more turbulent or less stable due to temperature variations cause by uneven ground heating and also due to the lifting effect of airflow over uneven terrain. In order for contrails to be noticeable there has to be a very stable layer of air for them to form and remain for a while. This is why they are more frequently seen in winter, even at high altitudes. Winter air tends to be more stable.
Originally posted by Uncinus
Originally posted by mammybethy77
reply to post by TheTardis
I am curious as to why there are concentrated quantities of aluminum in our soils and our vegetation...
It's because aluminum is the most abundant metal in the earth's crust. 8% of the earth's crust is aluminum. So there's naturally a lot of it in soil - more than iron. Some of it ends up in food. The average person consumes several milligrams a day all quite naturally.
(usually above 8 km - about 26,000 ft) where the air is extremely cold (less than -40°C).
band has shown that their frequency occurrence is more than 70 % in the tropics.
Cirrus clouds usually reside in a region referred to as the upper troposphere where temperatures are generally colder than -20 to -30oC.
Originally posted by Chadwickus
reply to post by The X
So the billions of tonnes of waste released into the environment from factories, power plants and the like aren't in your sights but mythical chemtrails are?
Why can we not get samples from these trails?
As for aluminium resistant crops?
See here:
www.abovetopsecret.com...
Originally posted by The X
Originally posted by chr0naut
reply to post by SoymilkAlaska
If they've been laying down chemtrails and geo-engineering for decades, what have they achieved?
Just asking, because it seems running thousands of laden, large planes around the world (which they could hide far better if they did it at night), seems pretty expensive thing to do.
so your argument is, what have they achieved and, it can't be happening because it's too expensive.
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As for the expense, if this is about population reduction by poisoning the people over a period of time, thusly reducing birth rates, increasing still born rates, killing of the weak and infirm, (this number increases as the toxicity increases),
...
By placing a large sum of money in a bank account the whole program can be carried out on the interest payments alone.
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The argument needs to move from is it isn't it a chemtrail, people are becoming sick and dying from an environmental factor, the proof is there.
Originally posted by Gmoneycricket
Originally posted by Uncinus
Originally posted by mammybethy77
reply to post by TheTardis
I am curious as to why there are concentrated quantities of aluminum in our soils and our vegetation...
It's because aluminum is the most abundant metal in the earth's crust. 8% of the earth's crust is aluminum. So there's naturally a lot of it in soil - more than iron. Some of it ends up in food. The average person consumes several milligrams a day all quite naturally.
Where is the CO2 in that graft?
All the plants that need CO2 are going to die if this picture is true.
Originally posted by SoymilkAlaska
look up HAARP and project bluebeam, (on the above top secret search) you might find answers there.