Did you know...?

Did you know that today is Flag Day in the United States of America?
The Marine Committee of the Second Continental Congress passed the Flag Resolution on June 14th 1777. The Flag Resolution stated: "Resolved, that the flag of the United States be thirteen stripes, alternate red and white; that the union be thirteen stars, white in a blue field, representing a new Constellation."
This resolution did not specify any particular arrangement, nor orientation for the stars. Thus the two most popular flag of the time were Francis Hopkinson


and the Betsy Ross,


The number of stars and stripes was increased from 13 to 15 to reflect the entry of Kentucky and Vermont as states of the union in 1795. This is the flag inspired Francis Scott Key to write "Defense of Fort McHenry," later known as "The Star-Spangled Banner", now the national anthem.


Congress changed that flag with an Act in 1818. The new flag would have 20 stars, with a new star to be added when each new state was admitted, but the number of stripes would be reduced to 13 so as to honor the original colonies.


Quietly, subversively, these celebratory days are being swept under the rug. Common verbal bonds like the Pledge of Allegiance are eliminated so that objectors in our country do not have to listen to them or feel like their children are being bonded to them. The division, of this once free nation, rises nefariously like the smoke from the Twin Towers. I would not be surprised if July 4th, is someday challenged, or it's meaning mutated.

IMHO, and perhaps that of the Second Continental Congress, this flag represents the feeling and actions of the people of The United States of America. To all those who wish to be free, and pursue the G_D given right to Life , Liberty, and Happiness, this is our flag! And to all of those who oppose these G_D given rights, choose something else, do not usurp this symbol of freedom! For we will defend it and our rights, with unity, bravery, and sacrifice!

Speaking of freedom and the US flag,I would wave your flag and salute you guys if it wasn't for your "leaders" wiping their asses with your constitution and dishonouring your flag.

Its sad really.
Now i will give YOU a flag and a star for that flag.
Pun intended.

Common verbal bonds like the Pledge of Allegiance are eliminated so that objectors in our country do not have to listen to them or feel like their children are being bonded to them.

You mean that thing that our country got along just fine without until 1942?

reply to post by Violater1
S&FLAG!

Just want to add that it's the US Army's birthday today as well.

I know patriotism is a dirty word on ATS to some, but I'd like to salute you, OP, for bringng this up.

beez

And I invite everyone to use some other search engine besides google who according to what I read a little bit ago observed Russia day, Earth Day and the anniversary of Pac-Man but did nothing to their logo for Flag day. Way to go Google.. S&F For you sir.

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S&F

by the way,

What's Obama doing today ?

Originally posted by xuenchen
reply to post by Violater1

 

S&F

by the way,

What's Obama doing today ?

Watching "Drone Porn" according to another thread.

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GREAT THREAD!

I didn't even know today was flag day, and now it is over. I also didn't know today was "Wear Blue Day" for Men's Health, and I work for the Department of Health!! You'd think in this day and age of technology we could communicate a little better.

I think you are correct about the 4th of July, there are already oppositions to it, and fireworks have been pretty much banned throughout the land. It is ok to burn a flag, but not wear one to school.

Thanks for putting this together. I learned something, I didn't know the flag ever had 15 stripes, or that it had them when the Anthem was written. Great piece of trivia there!

Originally posted by beezzer
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S&FLAG!

Just want to add that it's the US Army's birthday today as well.

I know patriotism is a dirty word on ATS to some, but I'd like to salute you, OP, for bringng this up.

beez

Thanks Beez
And a quote from www.history.army.mil...
"When the American Revolution broke out, the rebellious colonies did not possess an army in the modern sense. Rather, the revolutionaries fielded an amateur force of colonial troops, cobbled together from various New England militia companies. They had no unified chain of command, and although Artemas Ward of Massachusetts exercised authority by informal agreement, officers from other colonies were not obligated to obey his orders. The American volunteers were led, equipped, armed, paid for, and supported by the colonies from which they were raised.

In the spring of 1775, this “army” was about to confront British troops near Boston, Massachusetts. The revolutionaries had to re-organize their forces quickly if they were to stand a chance against Britain’s seasoned professionals. Recognizing the need to enlist the support of all of the American seaboard colonies, the Massachusetts Provincial Congress appealed to the Second Continental Congress in Philadelphia to assume authority for the New England army. Reportedly, at John Adams’ request, Congress voted to “adopt” the Boston troops on June 14, although there is no written record of this decision. Also on this day, Congress resolved to form a committee “to bring in a draft of rules and regulations for the government of the Army,” and voted $2,000,000 to support the forces around Boston, and those at New York City. Moreover, Congress authorized the formation of ten companies of expert riflemen from Pennsylvania, Maryland, and Virginia, which were directed to march to Boston to support the New England militia.

George Washington received his appointment as commander-in-chief of the Continental Army the next day, and formally took command at Boston on July 3, 1775."

I Sir, return your salute.

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Thank you for your support.

Oh the horror!!!

I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America, and to the republic for which it stands, one nation under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all.

The flag the highest symbol of the land a banner that signifies what it means to be an American, and that this nation is a republic, where we are ONE NATION under god(from where all our rights come from) with liberty and justice for all.

Yeah I can understand people having a problem with that puts a damper on Government legislated morality and political correctness., and hypenated American names.

Indeed patrotism is a dirty word these days and quite the shame.

If Patriotism has become a dirty word then it is for the same reason religion has become a dirty word.

It is because of all of the horrendous acts of violence done in the name of these such belief systems.

What it takes to be considered a "Patriot" these days, I want no part of.
I have already resigned myself to being unpatriotic because that is precisely what I get called for not sharing the same rabid,fevered,non questioning support for our government or its wars as those who are TRUELY patriotic.

Much the same reason I would never identify myself as a Christian.
If you don't dance to EXACTLY the same tune as those who are card carrying,bonified, church sponsored and approved Christians then you are relegated to the term....."so called Christian".

Love my country?
Sure.

Despise the functionally retarded majority of the population?
You bet.

How do I feel about the government?

I am no longer at LIBERTY to say because of the passage of the NDAA.

As for the flag?
I believe George Carlin said it best so I'll let it go at that.

" I leave symbols to the symbol minded"

- George Carlin.

Originally posted by Screwed
If Patriotism has become a dirty word then it is for the same reason religion has become a dirty word.
It is because of all of the horrendous acts of violence done in the name of these such belief systems.
What it takes to be considered a "Patriot" these days, I want no part of.
I have already resigned myself to being unpatriotic because that is precisely what I get called for not sharing the same rabid,fevered,non questioning support for our government or its wars as those who are TRUELY patriotic.
Much the same reason I would never identify myself as a Christian.
If you don't dance to EXACTLY the same tune as those who are card carrying,bonified, church sponsored and approved Christians then you are relegated to the term....."so called Christian".
Love my country?
Sure.
Despise the functionally retarded majority of the population?
You bet.
How do I feel about the government?
I am no longer at LIBERTY to say because of the passage of the NDAA.

As for the flag?
I believe George Carlin said it best so I'll let it go at that.

" I leave symbols to the symbol minded"

- George Carlin.

edit on 14-6-2012 by Screwed because: (no reason given)

Symbol minded?
Really?
Here are more symbols, for WE, who are symbol minded.
The Liberty Bell


The Battle of Gettysburg.




And the fall of patriotism,

WE will never forget!

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Not sure what the point or objective of your post was other than an emotional release.

As for the symbols....
well, like I said, I leave symbols to the symbol minded.
They in NO WAY mean ANYTHING to me.

If you need that to mean
that I hate AmerrrCa and that I hate freedom then go for it bro.
I understand that it is hard for most people to realize that symbols are only molecules formed together in such a way as to trigger and emotional response.

This works well on people like you.
and that is OK.
Some people NEED symbols.
It makes them FEEL good.

If I like the NY Yankees and identify with them, and I want them to win..... then If I go out and buy and wear their Jersey then I am PROVING that I am a fan. I need everyone to know how I feel about the Yakees so I wear their jersey and FEEL proud.

Furthermore, If you DON'T wear their jersey and watch the games as often as
I do then you don't like them as much as I do.

Makes sense right?
To most people it does.......until you spell it out in such simple terms.
I call it the

"well, when you say it like that" syndrome.

Symbols are fine.
They are for a certain type of people.
They aren't hurting me per se'.

I just don't understand the love affair some people have with them.
It seem to give you something to identify with.

I suppose I just hate my country.

If I were low on Toilet paper I wouldn't think twice about using the flag.

and I would still die for my country......just not my government.

I don't expect this to make sense to you or most people reading this,

If you are one of the few who get it then congratulations.
You aren't symbol minded.

Too bad the OP only talks about WAR flags. I'd rather talk about the (forgotten) peace flags, like the American Civil Flag that was used very little, and forgotten about.

www.barefootsworld.net...

The Old Glory is a WAR FLAG, and especially with a yellow fringe, it signifies a MILITARY rule and jurisdiction. When you are or operate under this flag, you are actually serving the military.

America is at war - it seems that even the 'civil war' never ended! Do you really want to live in war, or would it finally be time to give peace an actual chance? Anyone who waves the 'old glory' around is effectively a warmonger and an advocate for WAR.




The american peacetime flag.

I do think that visually the 'old glory' is more beautiful, and I even like the melody of the 'star spangled banner', even though I am not crazy about the lyrics - but I'd be really glad to see this flag actually used somewhere these days.