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posted on Jun, 21 2012 @ 12:06 PM
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Originally posted by AriaStarr
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There are many chosen, and none should apologize for being aware. The only thing you have to consider is your delivery of the message. Are you directed to warn and scare or warn and still garner hope? You have no real need to defend yourself against the nameless horde of masked individuals posting on a public forum. All you need is belief in yourself and the courage to say what it is you need to say. Period.

I know for a fact, our mission right now is to garner hope before the end. To help as many come to the realization of God, the Light, and the way of the honorable, before the shift or "rapture" occurs. At least, that is what I have come to believe.

Just my two cents.


You are so correct! Thanks for your comments. I am hear to help as many people as possible. Even in my neighborhood I have brought others closer to Him. Some say I shouldn't see eveil spirits. Why? They are all around us but God protects us. I am just a person who will noot let satan kill my family.

My son is a constant reminder of how close God is to us. I have been around many childen at different ages of life. I know that they see things that I can't. What my son have shown me is remarkable to this day. When He was able to try walking a bit he would try to climg on to my shoulders to get to that bright light on the ceiling, reaching out with a look that makes your heart break. like he was left behind. One day around 12 months he looks up at the ceiling fan light, puts both hands up and shouts Hallelujah several times. he tried to kiss our feet like he has done it before. See he hasnt forgotten yet where he came from. It just strengthens me to find my way back

God Bless




posted on Jun, 21 2012 @ 12:34 PM
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Obviously that ATS user meant well by saying something nice and supportive, but aren't you more concerned about hearing the Truth, and witnessing effectively for Christ - instead of accepting the comfort of something that just sounds nice and feels good?

The person who posted that comment is by measure leaning as much towards New Age philosophy as to Christianity. I'm not condemning the person involved, obviously - but I am highlighting that someone who claims to be a Christian (you), and a prophet at that, should carefully balance their acceptance of pleasantness with an exposition of the Truth that they hold dear.

The prime point of (false) doctrine in the New Age movement is that Mankind can evolve spiritually, to become his/her own god. Which is precisely what Satan has been trying to convince people of since the Human race first came into contact with that accursed being.



posted on Jun, 21 2012 @ 01:27 PM
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Originally posted by FlyInTheOintment
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There are always critical points to be made by Christians on Christians.


I'm sorry, but you simply aren't getting the point.

I am not being critical for the sake of it - I am trying to lead you into a better understanding of what God requires from His children. There are many comments that you have made throughout this thread which are doctrinally unsound, are based upon the now defunct 'keeping of the Law' (you are effectively pick n' mixing the practices of Judaism), and which demonstrate that you are at risk of over-esteeming yourself.

To hear that you believe that marking your property with cat litter will somehow be akin to the passover in Egypt, well that is just worrying. God seals you with His Holy Spirit, and the devil sees God's seal and knows he can only come so far - a bit like the tide of the ocean can only come so far up the beach. However, even a believer will be attacked by demons if their ministry is effective - read 'One Holy Fire' by Nicky Cruz, and you'll see the type of stuff Satan will try.

Also, you maintain that the mark of the beast will be in something like a vaccine. That cannot be the case, as God would not allow people to receive his wrath and judgment simply because they trusted the doctors to give them a cure for their sickness. How can you think God would hold people eternally accountable for not wanting to get sick? Seriously? The mark of the beast, as I said in my previous post, will be unequivocally the work of Satan when it comes. People will know that they are submitting to demonic/worldly powers and they will know that the practice is in opposition to God's will. Otherwise, how could they be accountable before God for receiving the mark?

I will answer further when I have the time, because I think it's critically important that you take these messages of encouragement, correction and guidance on board. Otherwise, you are opening yourself up to the temptation of pride, and the deception of the devil. Satan loves to distort God's truths, and I am concerned that he is working on you. I am convinced the Lord has you in His care, but a part of that care is expressed by the fellowship that comes from learning to humble yourself and take counsel from Christians who have a little more experience than you do. Trust me - I had to do the same, and every believer who stays with the Lord must do so also. The ministry of prophecy must be carefully weighed, even amongst the prophets. It is the same with any function within the Body of Christ.



Hello
I am not being critical and I take and learn from all forms of criticism which can be good or bad. I believe that they are all good. My family and Church believe in using oil to mark your property and house and some use it on people to protect them. Asking God to protect all those within a boundary cannot be bad. Also, just like your beach comment, satan may not get you with the tide but he may chip off the edges by pulling some 'sand' away.

One of the things that wa said to me was that he will not deceive me or let others deceive me. Since my belief in how the mark would come, there has been nothing given to me that would take that belief away. I will pray over discernment for that topic and see what comes from it.

God bless



posted on Jun, 21 2012 @ 01:42 PM
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Originally posted by FlyInTheOintment
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Obviously that ATS user meant well by saying something nice and supportive, but aren't you more concerned about hearing the Truth, and witnessing effectively for Christ - instead of accepting the comfort of something that just sounds nice and feels good?

The person who posted that comment is by measure leaning as much towards New Age philosophy as to Christianity. I'm not condemning the person involved, obviously - but I am highlighting that someone who claims to be a Christian (you), and a prophet at that, should carefully balance their acceptance of pleasantness with an exposition of the Truth that they hold dear.

The prime point of (false) doctrine in the New Age movement is that Mankind can evolve spiritually, to become his/her own god. Which is precisely what Satan has been trying to convince people of since the Human race first came into contact with that accursed being.




Hello

You are correct but even they can say something nice and I will thank them. That doesn't mean I condone what they do. I have said in many places and maybe not much here is that they have to believe in the Trinity and ask Jesus to forgive their sins. That is the only way through and that is through Jesus first.

I have had the pleasure of supervising like 63 or so people at once. each person had to be talked to/with in a certain mannner. By how you converse with them, would either open up further dialog or close them down. I prefer to be nice as possible and allow them to say what they can and I will give them my views on what I have seen and believe in.

That is what any leader should do and I have been blessed to have some rotten and some very good leaders to learn from. I would not ask or say something that I wouldn't say or do myself.

That is just me. I am fine to talk about any subject with anyone. I love to debate because as I have found out there are always good and negative info on both sides to exploit. Therefore, it just pays to listen and not present a stern front when it is not necessary.

I think in time there will be many more people open to entertain what God is about when the calamities start happening. But I also believe there will be others that take advantage of this also. That is why I put all my trust in Him to steer me towards all the right decisions in life.

God Bless



posted on Jun, 21 2012 @ 06:50 PM
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Wild dream for sure! Why is it that it seems that religious people tend to have so many doom and gloom it's almost the end of the world dreams? Do you ever see someone who isn't so religious have these kind of dreams?

Now this is not to say that I don't believe in God or that I don't believe that there is something in the air and change is just on the horizon, but I have a hard time believing in apocalyptic type dreams and premonitions when the bias seems so obvious. I don't mean any disrespect, none of this is said in a rude way. It's just that I notice religious people seem to have these dreams and such more often than I have ever heard a non religious person having the same kind of dream.



posted on Jun, 21 2012 @ 08:46 PM
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Originally posted by MaMaa
Wild dream for sure! Why is it that it seems that religious people tend to have so many doom and gloom it's almost the end of the world dreams? Do you ever see someone who isn't so religious have these kind of dreams?

Now this is not to say that I don't believe in God or that I don't believe that there is something in the air and change is just on the horizon, but I have a hard time believing in apocalyptic type dreams and premonitions when the bias seems so obvious. I don't mean any disrespect, none of this is said in a rude way. It's just that I notice religious people seem to have these dreams and such more often than I have ever heard a non religious person having the same kind of dream.


Hello
I know what you are saying. I didn't believe much about people having visions from God either. Why them, I wondered? Why do most of the visions aren't fulfilled for the time mentioned? I had all types of questions like that and more.

All I know in my case, it started with a whisper about my son. I didn't accept Jesus as my savior, at the time, and yet I had the most vivid dreams waking visions and voices said to me. I gave my life to Him and through different media choices He has taught me in His way.

The purest of us, the children, are being tortured and killed daily, by the father, by the mother, by trusted people, by governments. Families are broken to the point where babies are having babies and no father or mother in the house.

God is about loving Him first and your family. Oaths that were solemn now are a joke like the Kim K wedding.

Since I became saved I never have seen or heard of these types of visions of the type happening all over. God sometimes gives them to people who aren't saved for whatever purpose. But He is giving them to the ones He called.up to prepare them. I relate it to a draft. A war is coming and it will not be pretty. I can come here and talk about His Glory and I would just be another voice.

God has people that can do it much better than I. I am a soldier. I think as a soldier. I will fight as a soldier. That is why the children must be protected at the cost of your life but not your soul. The enemy will do untold tortures to get you to turn to him or deny Christ. If you have no food and no water stored and are not saved by the Lord, your road will be the most treacherous. Yes, I bring doom and gloom only to kick some people in the arse because it is not only about you, it is about your.kids.

Why.do you think that the devil broke the family apart. Because with the Love of God and your family you are unbeatable. Take out the weak link and it all falls apart. Man up if not for yourself do it for the kids.

The old saying is true in that whoever has the gold they make the rules. In this case, whoever has the food and water can control you. At least have enough set aside to make it to some where safe.

God Bless



posted on Jun, 21 2012 @ 08:59 PM
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Hello All
As a former service member, I was taught to get a lay of the land. Know what is close to you. Know your resources. Know your potential threats. For example, when TSHTF the second most organized group will be the military-like groups that are waiting for that to occur. The next group will be all the gangs that are everywhere and I mean everywhere. There are a couple in my neck of the woods in west Virginia. The next group maybe the police or military in your area. But the first group will be God's people. We are ready and waiting to be called into action.

This list doesn't even include the supernatural side. The demons that will manifest in front of you. The ones that will control the weak of spirit. See how the list gets longer for what is in front of you? Only with having the mercy of God will you make it. I am not here to sugar coat it. You can get that in Church. Put on your cloak of the Lord and let Him direct your path.



posted on Jun, 21 2012 @ 09:18 PM
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Originally posted by odinson
Hello Everyone

On Monday I had a vision that had these words in it. I asked for confirmation and the next day He said to let everyone know this.

My heart was heavy after receiving this message. This would mean that God will be pulling his angels out and letting Satan take over.

God will still protect those that truly know Him but the rest of the people will have a hard road.

Then this morning, I received another vision. My wife and I was in some sort of multilevel town home that had food in it. I was going somewhere early in the morning. It was still dark out. Then I looked up in the moonlight and saw the shadowy forms of demons filling the sky.

I knew then it was time. So I started to go back to the wife when demons landed in front of the car. I prayed for protection and they parted. I parked like a block from the house. As I got out more demons came to attack me. As they got close, I said something from the Bible and these demons parted and let me through. One of them bowed and let me through.

Then I noticed a vehicle hauling some butt stopped near me. It was a family with kids and adults. I stoppped to get them and lead them into the building. Communications were gone and I sensed that this was a worldwide event.

I thought that we were going to stay there and I showed the family where to sleep. Then we decided to go and make it back to our home where we have our supplies and guns.

As I was escorting people to their cars and going back in, I ran into a cat that had a demon in it. Again, I prayed my way through. I want to mention that I thought that the morning was not supposed to be dark at that time.

Then I got out of that vision.

Guys it is coming! Please have your preps ready and especially God in your heart and the Word on your lips.

God Bless

The Holy Spirit does not lie or seek his own..... So will believe coz blaspheming the Holy Spirit is the unforgivable sin....However the gifts of the Spirit say you are liar...



posted on Jun, 22 2012 @ 06:39 AM
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The trouble is, I've been able to demonstrate that throughout this thread you've been cosying up to false doctrine, such as dropping stuff in about being chosen because you demonstrate 'good' qualities. There are plenty more points of concern, but I've already highlighted most of them, so won't waste time repeating myself. You need to study my responses a bit more carefully, as you seem to be resistant to correction, believing you have a 'pure truth' to hand out (simply going off the responses you've issued to my most recent comments).

Now whether or not you've supervised 63 people, and have 'skills' to enable you as a leader (once again, emphasising what you are capable of) - that doesn't preclude the fact that the responsibility of the prophet is to the accuracy of the message he is giving, to ensure that the spirit of his message is precisely that which God would condone and/or has issued directly.

My personal feelings on starting to get involved in this thread were that you were suffering from an effect similar to that which is seen in the parable of the sower. In the parable, some of the people who fell away from the concrete truth of Christ were those who received tares along with the wheat during the sowing.

Tares are a type of weed, which look like wheat, but are in fact noxious to people. The tares represent false doctrine, and therefore the sowing of tares amongst the wheat represents the sowing of true-seeming falsehood amidst truth. I can see that God has been working in your life, and that is a great thing. But my concern is legitimate, and based solely on your lack of sound doctrine.

A quick note on adherance to the Ten Commandments in these 'God cities' you refer to:

Paul the apostle was very clear in the book of Romans (and elsewhere, but specifically so in Romans) that we are not credited as righteous by adherance to the commandments of the law, but rather by the faith in God's work through Christ. Abraham, father of the Jewish faith, was credited as righteous due to his faith. He had not yet received the Law, and so could not possibly have fulfilled it - and yet he was credited as though he had fulfilled it - BY FAITH.

In the book of Acts, Paul advised some new church members, who had been receiving false teaching from certain jewish converts to Christianity who demanded adherence to Mosaic Law, that they were not required to follow the letter of the law, simply to refrain from:

Eating the meat of animals sacrificed to idols,
Eating the meat of strangled animals,
Sexual immorality.

The first command is according to the commandment Jesus emphasised as the most crucial - 'Love the Lord your God..' - and have no other gods before Him. In addition, this command would have served as a protective measure, seeing as demonic spirits can attach themselves to food sacrificed to idols/ demonic 'gods'.

The second command perhaps served as a testament to the need to honor the roots of the faith which Christ was born into, and yet to move beyond those roots, seeing as Christ had fulfilled in Himself the total requirement of the Mosaic Law. The blood is held in Jewish lore as 'where the life is', and so the command to refrain from eating meat which retained its blood may have served as a reminder to drink only the 'higher' blood, of the sacrificial offering of Christ, which was where the True life could be found.

The last command is simply sensible, and demonstrates God's care, owing to the degradation of the soul which occurs as a result of sexual immorality. Additionally, while not righteous in our own natures, we are to seek after righteousness in the way we live our lives, and the practice of self-control over our carnal desire for sexual gratification is a fine way to offer a commitment to the Lord that we intend to do the best we possibly can.

We are saved by grace, and not by works. On living for the Lord, our faith will mature to the point at which good works naturally flow from our inner desires - but never be deceived that our good works have anything to do with being chosen for service in the Kingdom. In fact, faith itself is a gift!

We are wholly dependent on God for our everything, and without Him, we can do nothing.

I can testify to this, as part of the discipline I received for my folly - believing myself to have something special to offer in the service of the Kingdom - was that God withdrew from my innermost being, to the point at which I thought He had abandoned me. Nothing is more terrifying or depressing than the belief that God has rejected you. I now know that He allowed me to go through this, in order that I might never be swayed again by the enemy, to believe that I can 'go it alone', or that I am in some way 'special'..

'Where else shall we go Lord? For you have the words of Life.'



posted on Jun, 22 2012 @ 06:52 AM
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God's people most certainly are not ready.

The church of Christ is so fractured, despite many different groups having a genuine relationship with Him (differing only on minor points of doctrine that are essentially irrelevant), that it would in fact take an assault by the forces of Satan to draw everyone together.

Here is where I think you are misrepresenting/ misinterpreting what God has quite possibly shown you.

Christ's church is not full of natural heroes, people who will head for the hills and hole up with guns and tinned food, ready to take on all comers. In fact, the church is largely populated by formerly broken and definitely humble people, who would likely submit to oppression by 'turning the other cheek'. The church has misinterpreted the message of humility in the face of oppression, to believe that under whatever circumstances they must not fight back. If this were the case, Christ would not have offered a hint about the need for self-defence at the appropriate time and under the appropriate circumstances. The hint I refer to is where He asked the disciples if they had any swords - apparently two swords between thirteen of them was sufficient. I plan to author a thread about this under-examined part of the New Testament at some point soon.

God may well have called you to be one of those in the minority who are to take up arms in order to defend His people at the appropriate time. However, you almost certainly will not be called into a leadership role, unless you deal with your need to accept the counsel of your brethren/ spiritual elders, and until you realise that you are in danger of propagating falsehood by refusing to accept such counsel.

The devil is an adept at twisting what is true, into something that will lead to ruin. Someone once said:

''Satan will feed you a lake of truth, in order to disguise the taste of a cupful of deadly poison''



posted on Jun, 22 2012 @ 08:57 AM
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Thank you for sharing. Avoid the naysayers. My family and I are having warning dreams now, too. We will not ignore them. Bless you and stay safe in whatever is to come.



posted on Jun, 22 2012 @ 09:07 AM
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I assume you are referring to me, as a naysayer. It is foolishness to advise someone to avoid the counsel of those who share his faith.

Simple fact is, that I too have been having dreams which indicate we are on the edge of a great conflict, a paradigm shift of epic proportions. However, I am waiting patiently on the Lord to fully reveal what He wants me to say regarding these messages. The OP has shared his experience, but he has been propagating elements of falsehood along with the seeds of truth, and this is why I and others who are of the Christian faith have been counseling him to accept correction, make sure he isn't twisting the truth, ensure he tests the spirits, avoid the trap of sinful pride in his own abilities, etc.

Don't come in to bolster error with pleasantries. Giving a message out and claiming it is from God, when it is not, or when it has been corrupted, is a fairly grievous sin where ignorance cannot be blamed. I am concerned only with the Truth, which is revealed by the Holy Spirit of God Himself.

You may well be having warning dreams, but ask yourself why you are receiving them!? It is a gift, to encourage you to seek out the Truth, before the end-times are fully upon us. Take that gift and seek the Lord's guidance - don't fall into a New Age trap, as that stuff is full of demonic deception. I speak the truth from experience, and by the grace of God I am able to share my testimony and the things that God has revealed to me.

''Let each use his gift in proportion to the measure of faith he has received.'' (paraphrased)



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posted on Jun, 23 2012 @ 07:57 AM
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The gift of prophecy edifies, exhorts, and comforts (I Corinthians 14:3); helps us build up or strengthen; and should lead us to the Word of God.
It is the ministry of the Holy Spirit to convict of sin, of righteousness, and of judgment to come (John 16:8-11).

Prophecy is divinely inspired and anointed utterance; a supernatural proclamation in a known language.
It is the manifestation of the Spirit of God - not of intellect (I Corinthians 12:7), and it may be possessed and operated by all who have the infilling of the Holy Spirit (I Corinthians 14:31)

1 Cor 14:4 - It must build up the body.

2 Tim 3:16 - It must agree with Scripture.

John 16:13,14 - It must exalt Jesus.

Deut 18:22,22 - It must come true.

Deut 13:1-5 - It must lead to God and obedience to him.

Rom 8:15 - It must produce liberty

2 Cor 3:6 - It must produce life.

1 John 2:27 - It must be attested to the Holy Spirit in each believer.

All prophecies should glorify and honour Jesus.



posted on Jun, 23 2012 @ 03:41 PM
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Excellent work on demonstrating the true nature of the prophetic ministry!

It's important to remember that Satan quite often imitates truth as a means of leading people away from it. In fact, it's one of his key strategies to divide God's church. When Jesus was tempted in the wilderness, Satan used the Holy Scripture as a device to lure Jesus into sin. In his wiles, he simply perverted the original context of the scripture to achieve the desired lure.

The response Jesus gave was to correct the devil by putting God's word in it's true context - by highlighting relevant verses that showed the devil's use of the scripture to be perverse. In the example of the temptation in the wilderness, we see Jesus giving a perfect example of 'rightly dividing the word of God'. It's all about the context.

A note on spiritual warfare, and the management of demonic attacks:

Jesus has conquered the powers of Hell, and sits at the right hand of the Father. The spiritual warfare we are called to is not God vs. Satan, as many people believe - for God has already won the war through Christ's death and resurrection. It is simply Satan doing his utmost to corrupt and weaken the Body of Christ before his time is up, and we are called to be 'wise as serpents' in understanding his strategies.

When we are effective for Christ, the advent of demonic attacks can in fact confirm that efficacy - Satan will send his demons to demoralise, intimidate, tempt us, and twist the truth of our experience of the Lord. We have the victory through faith alone, and we are to stand firm, in all the armor provided...


Ephesians 6:10-18

10 Finally, be strong in the Lord and in his mighty power. 11 Put on the full armor of God, so that you can take your stand against the devil’s schemes.

12 For our struggle is not against flesh and blood, but against the rulers, against the authorities, against the powers of this dark world and against the spiritual forces of evil in the heavenly realms. 13 Therefore put on the full armor of God, so that when the day of evil comes, you may be able to stand your ground, and after you have done everything, to stand.

14 Stand firm then, with the belt of truth buckled around your waist, with the breastplate of righteousness in place, 15 and with your feet fitted with the readiness that comes from the gospel of peace. 16 In addition to all this, take up the shield of faith, with which you can extinguish all the flaming arrows of the evil one. 17 Take the helmet of salvation and the sword of the Spirit, which is the word of God.

18 And pray in the Spirit on all occasions with all kinds of prayers and requests. With this in mind, be alert and always keep on praying for all the Lord’s people.


Notice that we are called to STAND three times, and not to give in/ lose ground over whatever Satan is flinging at us. And he will try very, very hard, as I can testify from direct recent experience. Elsewhere in the scripture we are exhorted thus:


James 4:7

7 Submit yourselves, then, to God. Resist the devil, and he will flee from you.



Every night as I go to bed, I confirm my submission to God and His will. I literally affirm:


I am a servant of the Lord, I submit to His will


Even so, Satan tends to attack me in my dreams, and I could share some frightening testimony of the most recent episodes - but I don't want to encourage unnecessary fear of the enemy. Incidentally, if the enemy has taken an interest in you, and decides that direct assault will be the most effective method for disrupting your walk with the Lord, resisting him without specific submission to God results only in chaos and confusion, and a sustained season of fearful episodes, until you realise (grace) where you went wrong.


Direct satanic assault on Christian believers is more common than might be expected. The attacks come in various forms, depending on the disposition of the individual concerned.

With those who don't follow the Lord, Satan will generally choose to avoid direct assault, in case it drives the individual to seek God more fully. If the person is fully conversant in the practice of sinful behaviour, or has followed a false path formerly inspired by him and his minions, he will leave them to their own devices, content that they are far from the truth and entrenched in sinfulness/ false religion.

In those who profess to be nominally Christian, he will usurp areas of life where sin is present, causing the sin to flourish, and causing the individual to have their conscience seared over time. Alternatively, where the individual concerned does quite well to resist sin naturally, he will plant the simple notion that as a 'good' person, they have no need to examine the possibility of finding deep communion with God, discovering His will for their lives etc.



posted on Jun, 24 2012 @ 06:56 AM
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Hello
Thanks you for your care and time that you have taken to explain some things. I believe that we have gotten off on the wrong foot by for me trying to put up messages quickly by cell phone. I hate those things when it comes to typing.

I live by care and grace ever since I gave my life to Him. My chosen statement was just me thinking out loud. I don't know to this day why He chose me communicate with me and the way He continues to do so. But I give Him the praise daily for all things that He has given me. I ask Him to direct my path and to let me know who my friends are and who to watch out for. I truly am getting his messages. Sometimes they are good and sometimnes bad. I probably should just keep things to myself since He hasn't said and shown much to be delivered publicly.

The things He did wanted me to share is to believe in the Trinity and especiall the way is through Jesus. The other was that too many people are using His name in vain and when it comes time to do it there will be no power in it.

The last message that He gave to me was that there is a great warning coming. I had to look up 'A Great Warning' I didn't know what that meant at the time. Also, there will be no Pre-Tribulation rapture. We will be here for a period of time on earth while the chaos ensues.

I am living daily by faith. Faith that He will give me the tools to do what He wants me to do, faith that He will bring the right people around me, and faith that He will protect my family.

So you know, miracles are still happening if we pray fervently. Cxase in point, my wife's male friend got called last week that his mom was in a coma and wouldn't make it in Florida. He left work immediately and my wife told me about it. He is my wife's earnest friend but he doesnt believe that God is working through me. I fervently asked the Lord to please save his mom because he is a good man and needs to dee you there working for him.

Needless to say, the doctor's were amazed that she came out of the coma in a couple of days and now is at home. She shouldn't have been able to talk because they had to do an emergency tracheatomy, she should have some brain damage, andf she should need a lot of physical therapy. Suffice to say she just needs a home nurse to stop by and check on her but she pretty much is recovered. While talking to my wife's friend about it, he remarked that in her daze she believed there was someone behind/above her head. His sister and himself looked at each other in shock and said only maybe it's Jesus. The mom doesn't remember any of the conversation though.

After talking and ministering to him, he looks like a changed man, a contemplative man now. So we will see on his growth.

As far as seeing of feeling the enemy sometimes, I am not worried because I have my faith that God will protect me. Because of my closeness to him, those around me have gotten attacked. My neighbor almost died from a 35mph crash. After he got home, I felt this entity pass over us while we were in the bed and headed towards his house which is next door. I told my wife that I had to go there in the morning to check on him.He was on death's door by the time I got there.

He was having trouble catching his breath because of his back and chest injuries. But he was tanking. I knew that if he went to the hospital again that he wouldn't make it. So for the first time, I laid hands on him and we both prayed for healing and protection. He cried for himself, I cried for his soul. I left there by 8 pm. By 830 another neighbor came to my house crying and hysterical because she saw him after I left. She said that he should bo to the hospital and I said I know him and he will die there. I told her that we have to have faith that he will be healed. That night he felt the presense of something good and he was healed that night.

So God is still working miracles if you ask Him to. I give Him all the Glory!
God Bless



posted on Jun, 24 2012 @ 07:09 AM
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Originally posted by FlyInTheOintment
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God's people most certainly are not ready.

The church of Christ is so fractured, despite many different groups having a genuine relationship with Him (differing only on minor points of doctrine that are essentially irrelevant), that it would in fact take an assault by the forces of Satan to draw everyone together.

Here is where I think you are misrepresenting/ misinterpreting what God has quite possibly shown you.

Christ's church is not full of natural heroes, people who will head for the hills and hole up with guns and tinned food, ready to take on all comers. In fact, the church is largely populated by formerly broken and definitely humble people, who would likely submit to oppression by 'turning the other cheek'. The church has misinterpreted the message of humility in the face of oppression, to believe that under whatever circumstances they must not fight back. If this were the case, Christ would not have offered a hint about the need for self-defence at the appropriate time and under the appropriate circumstances. The hint I refer to is where He asked the disciples if they had any swords - apparently two swords between thirteen of them was sufficient. I plan to author a thread about this under-examined part of the New Testament at some point soon.

God may well have called you to be one of those in the minority who are to take up arms in order to defend His people at the appropriate time. However, you almost certainly will not be called into a leadership role, unless you deal with your need to accept the counsel of your brethren/ spiritual elders, and until you realise that you are in danger of propagating falsehood by refusing to accept such counsel.

The devil is an adept at twisting what is true, into something that will lead to ruin. Someone once said:

''Satan will feed you a lake of truth, in order to disguise the taste of a cupful of deadly poison''


Hello
There are people that the Lord is getting ready. They may not be Church goers. I wondered why one time that the Lord did not want me to go to the Churches to tell them what I saw. Then the Lord in His way through my mom gave me the answer. He even used my mom in a vision to tell me not to go. My mom doesn't believe that anything is truly happening and that the Lord will protect her. She doesn't believe in catastrophies happening before the Rapture event. So her thinking is that I don't know when Jesus is coming back because no man does. I told her that is true but there will be no Rapture before things or troubles start up. She thinks I am crazy and the devil is influencing me. I don't try to fight her because that is what the devil wants is to break up families. Hopefully when thing start up she will be more receptive.

BTW, I believe things have started happening but not effecting all at one time. For instance, those wild fires out west which has made records, fish kills, and radiation problems.

Oh,btw, i forgot that we look at the Church for leadership and for people of faith. We vastly forgot about military members. They could be the ones holding the line.

God bless



posted on Jun, 24 2012 @ 07:15 AM
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Originally posted by bastet11
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Thank you for sharing. Avoid the naysayers. My family and I are having warning dreams now, too. We will not ignore them. Bless you and stay safe in whatever is to come.


Thanks. I hope you and yours come through this. I said a prayer for you and your family. God is letting people know what's up, it is just up to that person to listen.

God Bless



posted on Jun, 24 2012 @ 07:17 AM
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Thanks for that message!



posted on Jun, 24 2012 @ 07:21 AM
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Wow! Thanks for your message. I will add submission to my prayers. Thank you!



posted on Jun, 25 2012 @ 06:05 AM
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Originally posted by Jordan River

Originally posted by InspirationEverywhere
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Are you aware that there is no mention of hell, or eternal damnation in the old testament.

Hell was concocted when Jesus entered the fray.

From his teachings. Be mindful of those you praise, for their crimes will be invisible to you.

'There is no god higher than truth', would it not be more honest to have truth on my lips?


Judaism hid hell, egpyt Land of the dead. its all connected, shoel. It is hell but judaism does not accept that evil exist. get it right or dont get it at all. your wrong


"What you do to the least of yourselves, you do to me." Jesus

Get it right or don't get it at all. You're wrong...? Why would you say that to Jesus? Is somebody not allowed a learning period? Must they all be immediately elevated to your level of intelligence before they have a right to contribute to the ongoing conversation? What is so special about your specific level of intelligence? Are you all done with learning then? You've reached the pinnacle of your intelligence? Or do you still have a lot to learn? If you do still have a lot to learn, like the rest of us, then how can you so confidently declare "you're wrong"? Maybe someday you will discover that they are right. Until you know all, I do not believe you are in any position to make such a distinction. Now, if you would kindly step down from your tower of almighty wisdom and grace us with your presence in the classroom of life, then perhaps we may all continue learning...together. Unless of course you have anymore bold declarations of anyone ELSE'S errors? Almighty judge of right and wrong that you are... By the way, its "you're wrong" not "your wrong". It appears that maybe English is not your first language, so I'm not trying to speak condescendingly toward you by correcting y0ou, I was just letting you know. But pretty much everything else I said before that, I was trying to speak condescendingly toward you, for the purpose of showing you what it feels like in order to let you understand why it is that Jesus insists that we treat each other in the same way we would treat him. I'm sorry for the fact I felt I needed to do that. But in my experience, if someone does not already realize why they should treat each other with respect, then speaking politely is not exactly a language that person will understand. And so I felt the need to reciprocate the very same behavior that you had displayed yourself. I feel confident that you will forgive me, eventually, when you reach that point of spiritual development that allows you to do so. Bless You!





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