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I Hate Your Country, So I Hate You

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posted on Jun, 14 2012 @ 11:43 PM
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i love america, where else in the world can you be detained 12 hrs for no reason and interrogated.

the last time i visited america i wanted to cross over the bridge to see if could get some good deals and a philly cheese steak.

i had all the necessary documents and for some reason the border guard thought i was an international coc aine smuggler. although i didnt know it at the time.

so i drove up to the booth and the guard says " good afternoon, what is the nature of your visit".

i said " to get a philly cheese steak and see if i could spot some good deals"

then he asked me for how long "i said a couple of hours"

he said "o.k." kept my documents and told me to follow another guard and drive over to a side building. there i was greeted by 3 heavily armed border guards dressed in swat gear.

one of them asked me to get out of the car and all three of them escorted me to a waiting area. i was under the impression that any sudden movement would result in massive automatic gunfire being shot at my direction point blank range.

they then drove the car to some other building and was told it was being searched. i said "fine", i thought it was just a routine random search.

i was in this waiting room for 3 hours when an agent finally came and escorted me to an interrogation room. this is where things got funny, for me, not them. i knew i wasn't a coc aine trafficker but these idiots couldn't grasp the concept, so i was having a good time.

i was in that room for the next 9 hours having to deny i was smuggling drugs and all i wanted was a philly cheese steak.

he kept asking me over and over again where the coc aine was. i said "what coc aine, are you insane", "i got no drugs" as so on. he then started saying that i wouldn't like it if i was smuggling drugs into your country. this went non stop for hours. it looked and sounded like "who's on first routine".

over and over again he kept asking me were the coc aine was. and over and over again i kept saying i wanted a philly cheese steak. this guy was no older than 19-20. i finally got fed up and asked if i could speak to an adult. (i have to add that they kept leaving the room and coming back, leaving me alone for long stretches at a time.)

when i said that, this big burly bad ass came, complete with standard issue cop mustache and said that they were going to release me soon, but first i have to have my finger prints digitally scanned.

then i told the guy, if all you wanted was my fingerprints all he had to do was ask. i would have said sure. i'm a guest in your country and if that's the rules i either say yes or go home, no big deal since i don't live there and they have no authority over me.

finally i was released and told i couldn't enter the country without a special waiver that would cost me $200.

that was the kicker, they couldn't arrest me, so they wanted to extort money from me.

by that time it was so late i had to settle for mcdonalds, instead of greasy philly cheese steak.

i guess the moral of the story is, don't ever mention that you're craving a philly cheese steak to an american border agent, they might think its international coc aine smuggling code for drugs.

yes america, sleep easy, your tax dollars are hard at work. with all the time they wasted on me, 100 real coc aine smugglers probably got thru yippe ki yaying all the way to where ever they go.


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posted on Jun, 14 2012 @ 11:50 PM
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Great thread OP. I see it this way, each nation in different degrees are going through the same NWO agenda. We should be receptive to eachother, brainstorm, get ideas out, and get these people no matter where they are from inspired. We are all in this together, we should make nice and push forward, personally I like everyone I've met on here, no matter what nationality ATS is a marvelous group



posted on Jun, 15 2012 @ 12:06 AM
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I went to Montreal, Canada with my 1yr old, and 3yr old in 2006, I was let over the Canadian border with a hi, and a wave. I only provided my birthcertificate, my husband and I spent half a day there, beautiful city!!

On the way back to Vermont, the American border guards thought I kidnapped 2 Candian children. They interrogated my 3 year old for an hour or more. The guards were asking him "what is your mothers name" my name is Katrina, but family calls me Katie. He kept repeating "Katie Mommy" they were questioning me, asking who Katie was, and if they were her children. They kept us 4hrs, until they verified my hotel near Burlington VT.

Long story short, I will never travel to Canada again, not because of the marvelous people, beautiful clean cities, none of that. Only because of the American border guards are on power trips, and ruin everyones good time.
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posted on Jun, 15 2012 @ 12:30 AM
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Well the Irish love us because we have so many and you did mention their funding of the IRA terrorists(They didn't have permission and were criminals) The Scots will have a bone to pick with YOU not us and I didn't know about that 2014 thing.
I doubt England will fall apart.We actually are related....as repellent as it is to you.I have a Scotish last name.
Both of our countries have done their share of atrocities, the difference is we kept ours secret,or thought we did,now the internet is getting the ugliness out for all to see.
And for both of us it boils down to the Danes old money.You've been under it longer than us.It looks like we showed up in the industrial age.



posted on Jun, 15 2012 @ 01:04 AM
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A wonderful post, smyleegrl. There are good and bad people in all nationalities. With the exception of politicians.
I won't ramble on about their " Qualities " they're well known....they are all corrupt... It goes with the job.

As I,ve said on here before " The tail is wagging the dog " we should be telling the governments what is going to happen, that's why we vote for them, so they can make it happen, not being dictated to as at is at present.

I've no objection to multiculturalism, per se, but we are a small island nation and it is getting pretty crowded, as we do tend to be rather generous towards people who want to take advantage of our nature.

One of the issues that does particularly annoy us though, ( U.K.) is people from some other nationalities, who wish to come and live here, with no intention of making an effort to integrate in any way. They would like the benefits of living in the uk, whilst retaining completely their own culture...

Example: some years ago, I worked in a large northern city in the uk. The area I worked in was predominantly Asian. I tried very hard to be sociable and friendly towards these people. A lot of them did not speak English, and those that did, did not understand British social etiquette, they weren't interested in being sociable, to the point of ignoring any attempt on my part to be friendly. I don't think any the worse of them for that, I tried and failed.



posted on Jun, 15 2012 @ 01:06 AM
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Originally posted by Jefferton
Sorry but I disagree. The Americans I interact with are not the evil government....just terrible people. Seems Americans are too caught up in their own pride to really see just how terrible they are.

I really haven't met many(any) who are aren't awful people. So it is hard not to dislike your country as a whole.

I'm an American. I'm nice. You can say you have interacted with a kind American now.



posted on Jun, 15 2012 @ 01:11 AM
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Originally posted by Citybig

Originally posted by Jefferton
Sorry but I disagree. The Americans I interact with are not the evil government....just terrible people. Seems Americans are too caught up in their own pride to really see just how terrible they are.

I really haven't met many(any) who are aren't awful people. So it is hard not to dislike your country as a whole.


The way they have completely and utterly ruined our language too, listening to them -ize everything sends shivers down my spine. Our language was formed over thousands of years, ruined in just 200 by a group of people who from day one have only ever been self interested.


Harsh. You hate an entire country because of things you have heard and because of grammar. That's a shame, too, because in my school, we take the time to appreciate other cultures and countries. Like yours. Hell, I take the time to learn as many different cultures as possible. I had a Norwegian exchange student and I never expressed my annoyance with him about how all of his "v's" we're pronounced as "w's".

I don't understand how such hate can exist. You haven't met me or my friends or my family or the volunteers at charities. To be bitter at an entire country is despicable. I hate that the holocaust happened but I still learned German and have German friends. I don't hate the country, I hate the man who brainwashed them. And I don't hate you. I hate what you become behind a computer screen.



posted on Jun, 15 2012 @ 01:29 AM
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It's not their fault Smilie, blame the Simpsons. 23 years of shouting USA! USA! No one knows any better Because to us your all like them, to you guys we're all Steve Irwins and play with spiders, kangaroos and crocs for fun...


It's just the latest trends of how to keep us divided. I made a thread on it the other day, because like you, I am disgusted by some of the drivel that people dredge up here. Even by my own countrymen. All this chest-beating and flag-waving must make the govts and corporations grin like mad to see, while they take another freedom away or invade another country to make more profits, while we endlessly argue who has the biggest you-know-what.

I have walked with people from all over this world, have BBQ'd with Americans, have attempted to keep up with the Japanese, have trekked all through Europe, spent 3 weeks crammed on a bus drinking with people from a dozen different countries from everywhere from London to Rome, and it was a blast. And you know, not once does your country get brought up, except in the case of who has the best beer (It's us btw, the only thing I will argue
)

When the governments who pull all this crap finally take our last freedom, and the corporations finally rule over everything we do, including our right to revolt, some of you may eventually drop your flags and realise what they are doing. By then it will be too late.



posted on Jun, 15 2012 @ 02:32 AM
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I'm glad you had a good experience, just kidding.

Since we are telling stories, I've got one too.

I'm from Wisconsin and when ford field was built I traveled there on September 22nd 2002 to witness the first game between Green Bay and Detroit. The packers lost but it was still a cool trip, first time in Detroit for me. After the game we went in the tunnel to Windsor. Like a previous poster said, the person asked our reason for visiting and we said "To visit!". We went to some casino's and had some food. That was the first time I had poutine.

If you don't know what that is Poutine

Anyways, we were coming back across the border at the check stop. We got asked for our ID's, birth certificates or passport. Who the hell carries their birth certificate with them? I didn't have a passport or my birth certificate so I got detained. At first we were put in a lobby area. We were picked one by one to get put in a room. When it was my turn, I was escorted into a very small room. The guy took my id and threw it on the floor. He said (verbatim) "I can reproduce this -snippy- ID with my home computer". He asked me my birth place, my mothers name, her phone number and all the information on my ID card.

Everything checked out.

We get let go outside. Our minivan was completely tore apart. Seats, luggage and even the spare tire was laying on the ground.

We put it all back together and we were on our way.

America, -snip- yeah!



posted on Jun, 15 2012 @ 02:43 AM
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Originally posted by kat2684
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I went to Montreal, Canada with my 1yr old, and 3yr old in 2006, I was let over the Canadian border with a hi, and a wave. I only provided my birthcertificate, my husband and I spent half a day there, beautiful city!!

On the way back to Vermont, the American border guards thought I kidnapped 2 Candian children. They interrogated my 3 year old for an hour or more. The guards were asking him "what is your mothers name" my name is Katrina, but family calls me Katie. He kept repeating "Katie Mommy" they were questioning me, asking who Katie was, and if they were her children. They kept us 4hrs, until they verified my hotel near Burlington VT.

Long story short, I will never travel to Canada again, not because of the marvelous people, beautiful clean cities, none of that. Only because of the American border guards are on power trips, and ruin everyones good time.
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You obviously didn't read the border crossing guide that says you need to have you birth certificate as well as your children s as well... don't blame your stupidity on some one else.

I have known of this requirement by age 13 for both the Mexico and Canada border...Whats your excuse?

Blah..Blah...Blah...You have no reasonable excuse, taking your children to another country is your RESPONSIBILITY..no one else, just because some one didn't spoon feed you the requirements does not mean that you will not be held responsible for your faults.
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posted on Jun, 15 2012 @ 02:54 AM
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Originally posted by litterbaux
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I'm glad you had a good experience, just kidding.

Since we are telling stories, I've got one too.

I'm from Wisconsin and when ford field was built I traveled there on September 22nd 2002 to witness the first game between Green Bay and Detroit. The packers lost but it was still a cool trip, first time in Detroit for me. After the game we went in the tunnel to Windsor. Like a previous poster said, the person asked our reason for visiting and we said "To visit!". We went to some casino's and had some food. That was the first time I had poutine.

If you don't know what that is Poutine

Anyways, we were coming back across the border at the check stop. We got asked for our ID's, birth certificates or passport. Who the hell carries their birth certificate with them? I didn't have a passport or my birth certificate so I got detained. At first we were put in a lobby area. We were picked one by one to get put in a room. When it was my turn, I was escorted into a very small room. The guy took my id and threw it on the floor. He said (verbatim) "I can reproduce this -snippy- ID with my home computer". He asked me my birth place, my mothers name, her phone number and all the information on my ID card.

Everything checked out.

We get let go outside. Our minivan was completely tore apart. Seats, luggage and even the spare tire was laying on the ground.

We put it all back together and we were on our way.

America, -snip- yeah!


Sounds like another case of: Crossing a countries border and didn't have their # together. Really do you people read the border crossing guides, or research anything on line before attempting a crossing?

I have been through at least 25 border crossings with both family and friend...and NEVER had a single issue.

Mexico
Canada
Japan
Singapore
Bahrain
Siapan
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posted on Jun, 15 2012 @ 10:25 AM
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I'm not blaming anyone else, wth is your problem?? I thought if they let me over without it, they would let me back. I had never left the country before and was very naieve. I freakin' cant stand you more holy then thou types, I hope you post your mistakes so we all can doggie pyle on top of you!

You must have been a member of MENSA for your amazing knowledge at 13, just brilliant, please tell us more.

The "Blah Blah" $$** was totally unessecary, sounds very immature.
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posted on Jun, 15 2012 @ 10:36 AM
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Your post was fine, and you made a simple mistake. I applaud you for being willing to post it in the first place.
Star for you



posted on Jun, 15 2012 @ 10:40 AM
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Thanks OP, people make mistakes, and I was hoping to respect your wish and make it a positive thread, but I slipped a little, oops.



posted on Jun, 15 2012 @ 11:47 AM
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Originally posted by randomname
i love america, where else in the world can you be detained 12 hrs for no reason and interrogated.

i guess the moral of the story is, don't ever mention that you're craving a philly cheese steak to an american border agent, they might think its international coc aine smuggling code for drugs.

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I don't want to trivialize what you went through at the hands of the US Border agents but in answer to your question there are more than a few border crossings in the world where being released after 12 hours would be a dramatic improvement from their current situations. Go ahead and read www.hrw.org... (Human Rights Watch) and see just how good you had it compared with say North Korea or the Israeli Palestinian border. There are some places where people can't tell their harrowing stories because no one can find them...they just disappear.

And you are right saying you just waited at a border checkpoint for however long and are crossing into another country to grab a sandwich is to say the least, suspicious.



posted on Jun, 15 2012 @ 11:49 AM
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Americans are geeting EXACTLY the government they deserve!! Americans are ethnocentric, bigoted, selfish, materialistic, zombified sheeple who LOVE torture and murder..otherwise we wouldn't BE in Iraq, Afghan, Pakistan, bases on every continent..WE are the EVIL EMPIRE OF DEATH..the enforcers for the GLOBAL FASCIST GULAG..while the stoopid sheeple sit hypnotized in front of their idiot boxes, drinking HFCS soda pop, eating junk food, drinking fluoride, taking their mercury vaccines, breathing in nanoparticles that wire into the brain turning Amerikans into BIOLOGICAL ANDROIDS, perfectly programmed into the Matrix Control Grid..Good riddance!



posted on Jun, 15 2012 @ 12:14 PM
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No we aren't,you only speak of what you know or are.I am quite complex.I like anyone who likes me,and a few I aggravate.I have fought in a war,I never hated the enemy I did my job.I hope the country that I fought in thrives and the people are evolving into a more developed culture.
This video game black and white hate thing is beyond ignorant.I have spoken to Muslims on this board who were frightened by the possibility of war with Iran and what could happen to them,hopefully,They feel better knowing that we don't seek their destruction.Most Americans don't buy into the "all Muslims are evil" garbage.And I am a christian (albiet an agnostic one)so MY religion welcomes them here by my sideThey are perfectly welcome to remain as they are.I would cheerfully harm any who would harm them.I HATE bullies.America is not just a loud white guy.Its all of us, you and neither you or I can say what exactly all Americans are because we don't know.



posted on Jun, 15 2012 @ 12:32 PM
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Originally posted by renegade666
Americans are geeting EXACTLY the government they deserve!! Americans are ethnocentric, bigoted, selfish, materialistic, zombified sheeple who LOVE torture and murder..otherwise we wouldn't BE in Iraq, Afghan, Pakistan, bases on every continent..WE are the EVIL EMPIRE OF DEATH..the enforcers for the GLOBAL FASCIST GULAG..while the stoopid sheeple sit hypnotized in front of their idiot boxes, drinking HFCS soda pop, eating junk food, drinking fluoride, taking their mercury vaccines, breathing in nanoparticles that wire into the brain turning Amerikans into BIOLOGICAL ANDROIDS, perfectly programmed into the Matrix Control Grid..Good riddance!


Take a break from the hate, my friend. Go outside and walk in the sunshine. Pet a puppy or caress a cat. Go blow dandelion puffs and listen to the birds sing. Just get away from the nonsense for awhile, it'll improve your outlook tremendously.



posted on Jun, 15 2012 @ 12:34 PM
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Us Americans are generally well intentioned people, what the media portrays doesn't represent us, our government doesn't represent us. The news has been saying Americans support domestic drone use, I know neocons, and dems alike who don't support this and I truthfully can't find a soul who does. Even in movies Americans are portrayed as obnoxious, yes there are some, but not all of us. Certainly the people who are awake, screaming about these things for decades, do not deserve what is coming. Our people have been poisoned for decades, bombarded with chemicals, fluoride, chemtrails, you name it, and we still have a few who sees the light. All I'm saying is America is not what you think, we still have individuals who hate the direction we have taken.



posted on Jun, 15 2012 @ 01:21 PM
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This country is made of immigrants from all over the world, so how is you are able to justify your stereotypical view of such a diverse group of people, including people from YOUR country wherever that may be? I already know the answer to this question...the problem lies with you.

The chart below lists where America ranks with people immigrating to this country...

www.nationmaster.com...



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