Police blow up broken-down car after dozy tourist parked it just yards from the Houses of Parliament

Originally posted by butcherguy
reply to post by 0010110011101

 

They use a small charge to open the 'boot' (we call it a trunk over here)

You're welcome!

I do love the nuances in our vernaculars! A 'boot' probably meant nada to you at first!

I think the explosion element of this has been overplayed! Particularly when you look at the pictures in the OP link. The car is still completely intact!!!!

Originally posted by Flavian

Originally posted by Unity_99
Woke up to these extreme bend over and kiss your freedom loving as$ goodbye responses, and wondered if I'd had a bad timeline change during the night or something.

Could you elaborate on that a bit please? Not sure that i understand your point.

Anyone who thinks that police should blow up anything people leave lying around, is extreme.

Waking up to these comments and acceptance of such a state of affairs is really alarming.

reply to post by 0010110011101


So they didn't "blow it up"? How do you do that in a gentle way? I find the whole thing confusing.

And the possibility of a car bomb was probably real, however, surely they have some of those sophisticated TSA type scanning devices to check.

reply to post by Unity_99


What is the alternative U99, leave the suspect package and see what happens. I think the British are so used to terrorist activity on their soil that it breeds a mindset whereby ultra cautious is ultra safe. They are not harming people, just protecting their citizens (and those of other countries) from potential harm.

For the record, it isnt the police who carry out these explosions, it's the army. I'm not sure why you see this as an alarming state of affairs?

Originally posted by 0010110011101

Originally posted by butcherguy
reply to post by 0010110011101

 

They use a small charge to open the 'boot' (we call it a trunk over here)

You're welcome!

I do love the nuances in our vernaculars! A 'boot' probably meant nada to you at first!

I think the explosion element of this has been overplayed! Particularly when you look at the pictures in the OP link. The car is still completely intact!!!!

I am familiar with the term as you use it, but when I first saw 'boot' in the BBC link, I pictured a device that is used over here to immobilize illegally parked vehicles. It fits over the wheel of the car and prevents it from being driven away.

reply to post by 0010110011101


I just added one. They have very sophisticated screening technology, and while I don't support TSA involving real people, and the health risks, with just property, there is no health risk, so why not use the technology to xray the vehicle?

Is everyone going to endorse them going around blowing things up all the time. And if this vehicle was right near their government buildings, I would understand their quick response to doing this.

But the comments about, blowing things up that are left out lying around London or the UK, as if this should be protocol with everything really alarmed me.

And post after post of that sentiment too.

Thanks to the Americans who so kindly funded terror for over 40 years on our soil, causing the deaths of 3,524 people, we are very well rehearsed in bomb destruction. Usually the explosion used is very localised, and does not result in the total destruction of the vehicle, such as the picture in the OP linked article shows, where the boot has been heavily damaged but the front of the car is completely unharmed.

More modern techniques involve robots and the use of water.

www.youtube.com...

reply to post by Unity_99

So they didn't "blow it up"? How do you do that in a gentle way? I find the whole thing confusing.

They used a very small charge to open the rear hatch of the car. They did that in order to minimize risk of injury to bomb disposal squad personnel. A terrorist may have linked the doors to the detonator of a car bomb.

It makes sense to me after reading the link to the BBC provided here.

reply to post by butcherguy


That is another thing. Instead of using scanning technology, and saving them from a bomb threat, they just choose to blow the trunk area?

So, if there really was a bomb, attached to the ignition or brakes or some other place, wouldn't it have blown its lid?

reply to post by Unity_99


I'm sure they do xray and scan first. If not there will be some suitable assessment. They couldnt afford to go in all gung-ho and just start blowing things up in the middle of London. I posted a link to an old BBC article earlier which gives a little detail on how it's done, but I'm no expert by any means.

I know someone who is in the bomb disposal squad i will ask him for some details, it is all about public safety and risk mitigation. The last thing they want to do is carry out a "controlled explosion" which has the same force and verocity of the original device.

reply to post by Citybig

Thanks to the Americans

To be fair, a lot of them were Irish citizens living in America, raising money to commit terrorist acts against you.
Anyway.....
I heard they view your lot as a bunch of Imperialists.

I bet they would probably tow the car away normally if it was belonged to "John Smith" Or "Devon Andre".

"NIma muhammaed razi Nima Hosseini Razi muhammed" must be part of Al Quida!

lol.

Originally posted by butcherguy
reply to post by Citybig

 

Thanks to the Americans

To be fair, a lot of them were Irish citizens living in America, raising money to commit terrorist acts against you.
Anyway.....
I heard they view your lot as a bunch of Imperialists.

Your government allowed it to continue unchecked, along with the shipments of massive ammounts of weaponry, so yes, it was Americans.

Just one of the reasons why if we had a real government, your nation and people would be treated as an enemy.

Originally posted by Unity_99
reply to post by butcherguy

 

That is another thing. Instead of using scanning technology, and saving them from a bomb threat, they just choose to blow the trunk area?

So, if there really was a bomb, attached to the ignition or brakes or some other place, wouldn't it have blown its lid?

It may have, maybe not.

I think they were erring on the side of caution, in that I don't think they actually believed that it was a car bomb. But they have a protocol to follow, and it worked out this time.

reply to post by Citybig

Your government allowed it to continue unchecked, along with the shipments of massive ammounts of weaponry, so yes, it was Americans.

It wasn't only Americans.

Other countries helped the IRA in their war against British Imperialism.

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Police 'smash car window to rescue toy dog'
Two police officers broke into a car to save a dog they feared was overheating inside, only to find it was a cuddly toy.
Two police officers broke into a car to save a dog they feared was overheating inside, only to find it was a cuddly toy.

The PCs, who became concerned about the “sleeping” animal after being alerted by a member of the public, attempted to wake it from the back seat of parked car.

When it would not be roused, they smashed the window of the Mercedes coupe fearing it would be harmed in the 18C temperatures.

It was only when they reached inside to rescue the King Charles Spaniel that they realised it was merely a stuffed cuddly toy worth £4.50.

Owner Gordon Williams, 80, has now told how he returned to his car to find a seat covered in broken glass and an official note.

It reads: “Smashed your window re concern for animal on rear seat.”




The police force has agreed to pay to the damage to allow the retired mining engineer to replace his window.

Mr Williams, from Mansfield, Nottinghamshire, told the Sun newspaper: “I guess they felt like idiots.”

The widower said he had bought the toy, named Little Willy, on holiday before leaving him in his car on Monday.

He said: "He'd been living quite happily on the car's back seat. But I've decided he will be safer sleeping on a chair in my kitchen."

Nottinghamshire Police said: "The call was made in good faith by a passer-by. In this case officers believed a dog could be suffering due to the heat of the day and its life was potentially at risk, so felt there was no other option but to enter the vehicle.

"We will be speaking to the owner of the vehicle about paying for the damage.

"This is a perfect example of why drivers need to think about what they leave on view in their car, both in terms of other people’s perception of the objects and in a bid to deter opportunist thieves.”

Originally posted by Citybig
Thanks to the Americans who so kindly funded terror for over 40 years on our soil, causing the deaths of 3,524 people, we are very well rehearsed in bomb destruction. Usually the explosion used is very localised, and does not result in the total destruction of the vehicle, such as the picture in the OP linked article shows, where the boot has been heavily damaged but the front of the car is completely unharmed.

More modern techniques involve robots and the use of water.

www.youtube.com...

Is it possible for you to post in one thread without your vitriolic bile? Every post I read of yours is steeped in xenophobic undertones. If you hate everyone so much why not take yourself off to an island somewhere and live it out on your own where no-one can aggitate you.

It is possible to make a point without slagging off nations/people in the process. You might also find that people are a little more willing to listen to you.

Originally posted by butcherguy
reply to post by Citybig

 

Your government allowed it to continue unchecked, along with the shipments of massive ammounts of weaponry, so yes, it was Americans.

It wasn't only Americans.

Other countries helped the IRA in their war against British Imperialism.

Shame, we should be helping all your enemies now, and hopefully soon we will be.

I wonder what Iran could do with one of your Tridents...

Originally posted by Citybig

Originally posted by butcherguy
reply to post by Citybig

 

Your government allowed it to continue unchecked, along with the shipments of massive ammounts of weaponry, so yes, it was Americans.

It wasn't only Americans.

Other countries helped the IRA in their war against British Imperialism.

Shame, we should be helping all your enemies now, and hopefully soon we will be.

I wonder what Iran could do with one of your Tridents...

........See Above........

I'll take that as a no then.

Originally posted by 0010110011101

Is it possible for you to post in one thread without your vitriolic bile? Every post I read of yours is steeped in xenophobic undertones. If you hate everyone so much why not take yourself off to an island somewhere and live it out on your own where no-one can aggitate you.

That's not very civil is it? I no longer have time for your preachy nonsense.

Originally posted by 0010110011101
It is possible to make a point without slagging off nations/people in the process. You might also find that people are a little more willing to listen to you.

Couldn't give a toss if you do or don't like my posts to be brutally honest. It's just your opinion and I have no time for opinions.