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Originally posted by PurpleChiten
Originally posted by Furbs
Originally posted by PurpleChiten
There are no people on the face of the earth who are actually vegan. There are plenty who claim to be, but they aren't. They just think they are and try to look down their noses at people who aren't while taking in lots and lots of animal byproducts and don't even realize it.
Foolishness plus hypocricy.
I have been a dietary vegan for over 20 years. It is actually quite easy to do (and getting easier with proper labeling) if you are committed. I don't do it for moral reasons, and I couldn't care less about what other people do with their bodies. I simply do not ingest animal proteins. If others want to, fine by me. The only thing I don't tolerate is people spreading misinformation about vegan lifestyle out of ignorance or fear.
but with the labeling, do you know how each of the ingredients listed were made themselves? They are very vague about some things.
For example, people don't realize that Jello is made form the skin, bones and hoofs of cows, pigs and horses, but it is. That would violate the vegan ideas of what can be consumed. Other ingredients contain things that you skim over and don't think about how they were manufactured.
Supplements do the same thing. Are you absolutely, positively sure of what's going into your body? Do you know what the filler is for the supplements you may take? Do you know all of the things that are used in producing any of the canned or processed foods that you eat that you think is within your vegan diet? Are you absolutely positive about these things or just not catching all the details that are cleverly disguised by the manufacturers?
Originally posted by Tripple_Helix
reply to post by ChaoticOrder
So you cut out both major sources of protein and calcium and you wonder why your nails wont grow?
Yeah, yeah, I guess that's 'funny'... I do eat Tat Soi, and other veggies rich in calcium but I guess it's not enough.
Your body needs certain things which plant material and pills wont provide.
I get you. I don't have loads of money for supplements and stuff each month. Things like hemp seeds, which are complete protein are about R120.00 per bag here in South Africa.
I'm thinking of adding free range eggs and maybe goats milk. Although I know many people will give me so much flak for it.
edit on 14-6-2012 by Tripple_Helix because: (no reason given)
Originally posted by davjan4
I had to register just to respond to this thread.
I'm an RN and have researched diet for the last 6 years. I gotta tell you dude, you are ruining your diet by being a vegan. And yes, losing your hair is part of that.
I do agree that factory farming is pretty nasty. If you are in the US go to eatwild(dot)com and you can find good sources of organic food. I get grassfed beef, raw goat milk and pastured eggs. Speaking of, don't beleive that crap about "vegitarian fed hens" that you see on the egg boxes. Chickens are not vegitarians. They eat bugs, lizards, baby mice...
The point is it will take effort, but it's worth it. I cured my pre-diabetis in 4 months by ditching grains, sugar and processed foods. That's right, cured. And it's been cured for 6 years now. If I would have listened to my doctor I'd be taking diabetic meds by now... Adn as an RN, that's one road I did not want to go down. Diabetes steals your life a bit at at time.
At any rate, please reconsider your diet. Beleive me, your hair falling out is just the beginning. And read about the paleo diet, and you might want to pick up the book "The Vegitarian Myth". If you can get past her political rantings, it 's a good read. Also marksdailyapple(dot)com is a good resource.
If you eat out of ideology, you might be "making a statement" or saving a cow or whatever, just remember you will pay with your health.
Good luck to you.
Originally posted by maxpayne596
reply to post by prancie
There is no such thing as HUMANE meat, dairy, eggs. Even free range options still cause untold suffering. If you think otherwise you are lying to yourself. The farming process of these animals is torture then murder. They are all sentient beings that deserve better.