Originally posted by tothetenthpower
reply to post by McGinty
That I don't disagree with, the whole 6 or 7 people families is a bit much these days, and who can afford that crap anyway.
I guess I should not talk, I have 4, but 3 were adopted so there.
Yes the condensed populations are a problem, but that came as the result of major trading lanes like port cities etc..
If we moved to a more local mentality when it comes to food and energy, these would naturally disolve and people would move to less urban areas
because it would be affordable to do so and there would actually be more benefits to living in the country than in the city.
Yes, the large families are pretty irresponsible of our species. In a natural ecosystem this would mean food shortage and a rebalancing of the numbers
via large dying-off followed by slow gain in animal numbers. Our artificially sustained eco-system has fatally separated cause from effect...
But that's a very broad-sweeping statement. To be more specific, it is certainly in one of our potentual futures to make cities/clusters of humans
unnecessary. But even if this utopia is allowed to happen by TPTB, it is still a way off and how long must we suffer increasing inner city degradation
while waiting for utopia?
In the meantime i suggest we control population growth, keeping equality and fairness a priority in the enforcement of such a rule. The fairest option
may be as drastic as a vasectomy for men after 2 children.
It hurts, really, to suggest such draconian, rather dystopian control measures, but being responsible means doing the best with what you have for the
good of the many. So while i agree with you in theory, only action will help overcrowded cities and we can't put this on hold hoping we make the leap
to a localised lifestyle before we've started eating Soylent Green
And just to trample any last hope of this, even if we did change infrastructure to dismantle cities and spread everyone out so there was no more
clustering, how long would it be until humans had filled all that new space between one another with more children, more families, more villages,
After several generations we'd be back in the same predicament, but with nowhere else to go. Overpopulating isn't necessarily caused by cities, it's
something fundamental to pro-creation, a so-far unresolved bug, or blind spot in our make-up - the 'selfish gene - the original sin, perhaps. To pop
them out just 'cos we can!
Some people's pro-creation appetites are far greater than others. Some see power in numbers. Others are too dumb not to, and a few, i guess, just like
I Think inevitably as a species that claims to be superior - ready to progress - it must finally prove it by showing that it's in control of it's own
numbers. Hypothetically speaking, why on earth would an Alien race allow us to spread to other planets until we shown we can do this one thing that
tells us apart from the animals, and the viruses....
edit on 14-6-2012 by McGinty because: clarification...