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Originally posted by ObservingTheWorld
So if you can give me a valid reason why we should expand above our 7 billion+ while making the world a better place without increasing the suffering and deaths of others, then let's talk.
Originally posted by tothetenthpower
reply to post by McGinty
That I don't disagree with, the whole 6 or 7 people families is a bit much these days, and who can afford that crap anyway.
I guess I should not talk, I have 4, but 3 were adopted so there.
Yes the condensed populations are a problem, but that came as the result of major trading lanes like port cities etc..
If we moved to a more local mentality when it comes to food and energy, these would naturally disolve and people would move to less urban areas because it would be affordable to do so and there would actually be more benefits to living in the country than in the city.
~Tenth
Originally posted by McGinty
Our artificially sustained eco-system has fatally separated cause from effect...
It hurts, really, to suggest such draconian, rather dystopian control measures, but being responsible means
I Think inevitably as a species that claims to be superior - ready to progress - it must finally prove it by showing that it's in control of it's own numbers.
These curious creatures tend to suffer from a collective hysteria where the individual organism is supposed to not exist, or if it exists, it exists for the manipulation of its fellow organisms who happen to outnumber the individual organism. What's more alarming about this observation is that these creatures appear to possess one of the largest brain-to-body mass ratios. How could this be possible? Could this be explained by a phantasm mechanism where existential fears are conceptualized and perpetuated through associative networks, producing visible effects resembling a physical virus? It is a quandary, and our studies coin this trait 'ignorance'.
It seems these noted regressive traits, such as control and fear, are better represented amongst those organisms possessing larger quantities of this 'ignorance'. The tolerance of these particular organisms is a testament to those possessing less of this 'ignorance'. Indeed, this tolerance is what provides the best analogy between our kind and theirs.
Originally posted by HIWATT
reply to post by tothetenthpower
Bingo.
The overpopulation lie has been debunked a hundred million times.
You could fit every single person on the planet into an area the size of Texas.
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OP, this should make you angry. There are millions of people STARVING to death every day and the same people trying very hard to convince YOU that YOU'RE the problem, are the exact same people who are really responsible for it.
Originally posted by Covertblack
Originally posted by tothetenthpower
reply to post by AzureSky
Actually, potable fresh water is going to be a huge problem in the future, it's actually one of the main concerns regarding overpopulation. The truth is, there just isn't enough Fresh Water to go around right now.
However, we do have the tech to convert salt water into clean, drinkable water, but it's expensive and most nations do not want to build the infrastructure to do such things.
But it can be done.
~Tenth
I live near Lake Superior, so I foresee myself selling expensive bottles of water in the future. Joking aside converting salt water into potable water also takes enormous amounts of energy, from what I have been told anyway.