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Originally posted by Stormdancer777
reply to post by Julio
I noticed a few other people attributed atheism to a religion,
I think some become cultist and dogmatic, a few weeks ago I went into the atheist room on paltalk, the title at the time was " all god believers are idiots."
Of course I couldn't pass that up,
Originally posted by OpinionatedB
Originally posted by john_bmth
reply to post by FlyersFan
You ARE lying, it's evident throughout this thread where you STILL call scientific throes wild guesses when it's been pointed out to you numerous times that this is false. Doesn't the bible have things to say about those who bear false witness?
First. no atheist can prove a beginning to the universe from nothing. They can theorize and make wild guesses, but there is no proof of something being able to come from nothing.
Second, if you go for the infinite regress theory you have to be able to prove an actual infinite which not even the greatest mathematical minds say is possible to prove. In actual fact, the mathematical school of intuition DENIES actual infinite.
Yes, on some levels there is an evolutionary process, this however, does nothing to prove or disprove the existance of any Creator...
all the atheist can do is theorize and state that someday science will have the ability to find the answers to everything....and ALL atheists worth their weight fully admit that science does not currently have these answers, or even the current ability to find them. (they are simply placing it upon faith that someday will be born very intelligent people who will come up with these answers)
Originally posted by rhinoceros
reply to post by Tbrooks76
I don't think it's so much about what people believe, but how they try to impose their dogma on others. How would you feel if it was taught in the US schools that the country was first settled by white people, and that the natives and blacks only came there later? It's the same with creation myths. Facts contradict them, but agree with modern synthesis. If you ask me, irrational beliefs have no place in the science class.edit on 13-6-2012 by rhinoceros because: (no reason given)
Telling people that we don't have all the facts is NOT a lie. Telling people that we are very small and uneducated in what is going on in the universe is NOT a lie. Telling people on both sides of the discussion to have an open mind because nothing is rock solid in fact is NOT a lie.
Theories are guesses based on incomplete evidence. Creationist theory .. evolutionary theory .. 'seeding' theory ... all based on incomplete evidence. If there was complete evidence for any one of them, then there would be no serious discussion needed.
the·o·ry/ˈTHēərē/ Noun: A supposition or a system of ideas intended to explain something, esp. one based on general principles independent of the thing to be...: "Darwin's theory of evolution" A set of principles on which the practice of an activity is based: "a theory of education"; "music theory".
Originally posted by borntowatch
Originally posted by jiggerj
Yes, and that person suddenly saw the ridiculousness in her religious beliefs. She then said something that, in my opinion, is how most religious people feel.
I said to her, "Do you honestly believe that there is an ALLL-knowing, ALLLL-powerful, inVISible being, who created the WHOLE universe, and who lives in another dimension called heavennnnn?"
Her eyes went wide, as though a band-aid had been suddenly ripped from her brain. She then said, "But I HAVE to believe." With that statement comes the unspoken words: "even though I know it isn't true."
edit on 6/13/2012 by jiggerj because: (no reason given)
And you believe from nothing we get the full table of elements, light and heat then life and death and its meaningless. You and your argument is less than childish.
you honestly believe that there is an Noooo-knowing, Nooo-power, Nooo being, NOOOO nothing that created the WHOLE universe, and who doesnt exist in any dimension called anything?"
Your words are just silly.
Originally posted by hoochymama
Nope. But, maybe my problem is finding someone who questions there FAITH. The argument always used "you cant see Oxygen so how do you know its there". LOL. That means I have a discussion with idiots which isnt fair, cuz in this world the Idiot always wins.edit on 12-6-2012 by hoochymama because: (no reason given)
Originally posted by ImaFungi
reply to post by jiggerj
its not about the details in the myths,,, its about the conentation,, the meaning,,,,, if an aware creator created the universe,, it created the volcanoes,, and you and me..... indigenous people made up there own myths and stories, imagining the causes of these natural process' and forces.... regardless of what the indigenous people think or you and i think.,., a creator could have caused the universe to come into existence,, or it could have not.....