posted on Jun, 13 2012 @ 07:29 AM
reply to post by Julio
Most people hold very strong beliefs, and atheists are no exeption. Just as you will not be convincing anyone but an ignorant religious person of
atheism, nor will you be convincing any atheist of religion. It is not because of any truths either, it is because people strongly hold whatever
beliefs they have, and argument will not sway a person by the time they reach full adulthood.
I have had debates with atheists, and have the ability to argue well my points for creation.(Hilberts hotel, actual infinite etc) but when someones
beliefs are challenged, they simply get angry. Beleifs do not change even when the argument is lost on their part, they convince themselves that they
simply found someone who has more knowledge than they and that they must therefore become more knowledgable in their own belief, and should they do
this, next time they will not loose.
Facts matter little, all that seems to matter is belief. I have gotten people to admit however that they are not 'true' atheists. But this is about
it. I have quit debating long ago, its pointless for the aforementioned reasons. I know what I believe and why I believe it, and believe the facts are
there to support my case with reason, and this is what matters to me.
That said, a relationship with God is an experiencial matter, that is specific to the person. Someone else will not be able to share this with you in
a manner in which you, a person who did not have the experience, can understand. Sometimes it is just a feeling, sometimes it is outer signs, things
that cannot be explained, sometimes beings might speak to a person in a dream or a vision. None of this is applicable to anyone but the individual
having said experience, and all of this can be explained away rationally, or believed, depending upon who you are asking.