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How Long Are "We The People" Going To Wait Before We Demand "TREASON" ... Starting at the VERY T

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posted on Jun, 12 2012 @ 11:10 PM
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Everyday I get a little more frustrated with the citizens of our United States of America. I can't believe that there are so many ignorant and naive people or even worse, so many that just don't CARE. I'm going to keep this short and sweet. I'm going to list a few events that should be, without any doubt, reasons for charging Government Officials with TREASON. This Government is either 1...very very dumb and accidentally following along the communist steps of takeover without actually knowing (which I do NOT believe) or 2... they know exactly what they are doing and are using the fact that American people do not care and are not questioning what our Government is doing....so long as they can go to the store and buy beer and cigarettes, have some food and *SNIP* their significant other as often as possible. I believe the latter to be the case and the Government keys into this and has slowly been instigating this socialist soon to be communist way of life for many years. Anyway, that's another long drawn out fight... but here is a list that the PEOPLE should be demanding heads roll. Where's MSM helping now? Nowhere is where.....

1. Attorney General Eric Holder (personally appointed by Barry) and Fast & Furious. Here's the deal.... they have emails blatantly saying they were pushing this agenda to make 2nd Amendment changes regarding your rights to bear arms. Eric Holder has been asked multiple times to provide information regarding the mission, however; he is hiding behind "Top Secret" protocol which that in itself is hilarious. The fact remains and there's only two different ways to view what took place.... 1) Eric Holder was not doing his job and was not properly keeping in communication and maintaining a good grasp on events that he should have been monitoring which makes him inadequate to hold his current position or 2) He is the AG, he absolutely knew what was going on with those automatic weapons and his agenda was in-fact to change our rights to bear arms, either way, Eric Holder has to go.....NOW!!!! This man should be arrested and charged.....do not pass GO do not collect 1000 dollars.

2. Top Secret Information Leak - Iran finds out from an anonymous source that their computer systems have been being riddled with problems keeping them from completing their nuclear programs before now.... this information leak now allows Iran to figure out the problem, fix it and continue marching towards nuclear capability. Eric Holder should be appointing a committee to oversee this and find the hole, plug the hole and jobs should fall, people's heads should roll, treason charges and death penalty. But it's not being viewed as a big deal...why?

3. Top Secret Information Leak - Seal Team 6 information released. This should be easy to track down and find out who sold this secret information. Are people actively trying to track this down??? Nope... Why?? Here's another thought for you... a couple weeks after Bin Laden's infamous raid by Seal Team 6... a CH-47 carrying approximately 25 Navy Seal Team members was shot down and all soldiers on board were killed. Coincidence? A "Shut your mouth" show of force....? I don't know... but I do know that this should be investigated at the highest levels and actions taken against whomever released critical mission information.

4. NDAA - Treason. Not much to say here... Unconstitutional - This is worse than Nixon's scandal...

5. Eric Holder specifically told Congress during a hearing that he and President Obama do not answer to Congress, they answer to the UN. After multiple times asking Mr. Holder if he would like to change his answer and many many times, Holder said NO... the subject is changed. Holder is backed by Obama.

6. UAV activity approved for use over the USA


Please feel free to add other issues and problems occurred during the past 20 years. You can cuss and discuss what I've placed up here. I'm merely wondering why MSM won't cover these topics. Why aren't the citizens seeing our rights being taken away from us right under our noses. Our Government is out of control and nobody gives a sh*t. I don't understand. Our Government was formed by the people for the people and it's time for the people to take it back. Have fun with this thread..... and hopefully share it with some of the people that are blind to what's happening.


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posted on Jun, 12 2012 @ 11:17 PM
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And what is your perfectly devised plan?????

Anything u do or say can get u labeld as a terrorist

They got the game so fixed that they got it all on lockdown....

And let's just say we do start winning u know they're last move would be hide I'm bunker and nuke the # out of everything as a last resort


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posted on Jun, 12 2012 @ 11:18 PM
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How long are YOU going to wait?

Once that time comes... What will you do?





posted on Jun, 12 2012 @ 11:19 PM
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I am with you 100%.....this country and it's citizens really suck at the moment.

Americans have been being brainwashed and de-americanized since about 1913....propaganda, indoctrination through the education system (especially on the college level), they have been lead to believe the founders were misguided, Europe is better, the constitution is over and the president is all powerful and above the law.

What we need is a massive deprogramming operation.

Most days I just want to scream!!!

I feel your pain.



posted on Jun, 12 2012 @ 11:21 PM
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Good luck brother, I'm with you, but be ready for a barrage of trolls.

Like many before you, this will get high jacked and will fall into the abyss because few will fight anymore.

I have to hand it to the trolls though, they are getting good at making subjects like this just disappear.


As for what you said. Right on!



posted on Jun, 12 2012 @ 11:22 PM
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Originally posted by ElOmen
And what is your perfectly devised plan?????

Anything u do or say u can be labeled a terrorist now???

They got the game so fixed that they got it all on lockdown....

And let's just say we do start winning u know they're last move would be hide I'm bunker and nuke the # out of everything as a last resort



Where do they sell the kool-aid?

Anything you say, can be used in defining you as a terrorist. This doesn't mean EVERYTHING! lol You're not going to say, "I love ice cream" and be thrown into some secret prison. Nor, if you start forming peaceful assemblies.

I still don't understand...Exactly how many people have been snabbed by 'them' under the idea that these people are terrorists? You hear about some small things, but I don't think there's very high numbers in regards to voices of dissent being muzzled, hog tied, and tossed away for being a terrorist as of late in the US.



When we start winning, 'they' will just devise a new and improved version to fit whatever emerges.



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posted on Jun, 12 2012 @ 11:24 PM
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I JUST DONT KNOW WHAT TO SAY



posted on Jun, 12 2012 @ 11:26 PM
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Good post. Unfortunately, the list of treasonous individuals is far too long for a simple fix. You would have to throw just about everyone out. The state of things are too entrenched, it's citizens too indoctrinated. The only way the people would stand up is if they were starving in the streets. As long as they're fed, they'll go with the status quo, no matter where it leads.People are too stupid to think for themselves. Too stupid to realize they're being robbed from every angle. Too uneducated to realize they have no rights any more, only privileges. Too uninformed to see that voting is a complete sham.



posted on Jun, 12 2012 @ 11:26 PM
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I think the answer is pretty simple. The Corporatists/Globalists stole our government away from We The People while we were being lulled into complacency. It was a gigantic con job, and a good one.

Now the Corporatists/Globalists, through our own government, run us. They run Us. We are no longer in control, and our opinion of what constitutes treason is itself treasonous.

When someone hits upon a way to take it back--I'll be expecting their call....



posted on Jun, 12 2012 @ 11:30 PM
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I stopped reading as soon as the OP mentioned america is a socialist nation turning towards communism. That was the first or second paragraph and said to myself this person has a twisted agenda. Have fun in make-believe lala land.

Did you hear anything about the bilderbergers and where they meet this year? Are they communist as well, despite the fact they are all corporate executives or mega shareholders? You people need to learn the basic definition of terms before we are to take you seriously enough to read the rest of your post.



Yes I am frustrated as hell from all the disinfo. THAT is why I even bother posting in such threads. To show my frustration. America does not need any revolution that will make it go even more right than what it is already. No thank you, no way jose!



posted on Jun, 12 2012 @ 11:30 PM
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Once upon a time a country was born with these words.



We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness.

That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed, — That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness.

Prudence, indeed, will dictate that Governments long established should not be changed for light and transient causes; and accordingly all experience hath shewn that mankind are more disposed to suffer, while evils are sufferable than to right themselves by abolishing the forms to which they are accustomed. But when a long train of abuses and usurpations, pursuing invariably the same Object evinces a design to reduce them under absolute Despotism, it is their right, it is their duty, to throw off such Government, and to provide new Guards for their future security.


But, for the life of me, I just can't remember exactly which country that was...



posted on Jun, 12 2012 @ 11:30 PM
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In regards to Holder and Friends:

Someone can claim, all they want... that they gave weapons to another, in attempts of 'surveillance'. Yet with the seemingly unorganized, shotty means of keeping track of the weapons, and everything else... this is straight up supplying and supporting the enemy.

Think about it... mexican gangs, or mobs... the war on drugs, they're not citizens of the US, come from another sovereign country, and the US has declared war against the very practice that they partake in!



posted on Jun, 12 2012 @ 11:34 PM
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It really comes down to this. Are you prepared for war? Are you prepared for armed conflict in your neighborhood streets? Where red states or blue states become enemy territory?

There is zero chance the powers that have worked so hard for the last 100 years to build their empire are letting it go without a fight...

If your talking about the kind of radical change I think you are.
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posted on Jun, 12 2012 @ 11:34 PM
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Originally posted by EarthCitizen07

Yes I am frustrated as hell from all the disinfo. THAT is why I even bother posting in such threads. To show my frustration. America does not need any revolution that will make it go even more right than what it is already. No thank you, no way jose!
So how do you propose a fix? This is not a flame, I'm genuinely interested in your input. Revolution is the only way I see, and that's a crap shoot at best. It would really depend on who ended up leading such a movement.



posted on Jun, 12 2012 @ 11:41 PM
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The only plan that can take place right now.... and to be honest, it may be too late is to educate the citizens of what is taking place behind-the-scenes and not being paraded in the BS nightly news. We voted a man into office based on proving how far this country had come to prove racism is in the past. That's an honest sentence right there. Do you think it was by coincidence Barry ran for President and won? NO way. There was enough polls and a pulse on the population to allow it to happen now. It's been a patient and long awaited move. Now, 4 years later and his socialist plan in plain view, he is no more vetted than he was prior to taking office. The man is a socialist for certain and quickly becoming able to hold the title as a communist with the likes of Hitler. He is the 1st President that we do not know anything about regarding his past. The man openly discusses smoking crack, snorting coc aine, smoking weed and it's accepted. He was muslim, says he switched to Christian prior to running for President only to quickly denounce his church and say that he and his wife will quietly attend services at Camp David...c'mon man. This man is out of control and this has been a process for at least 20 years... if not more. Maybe since 1908 with the start of the Federal Reserve. I'm not sure. All I do know is Obama is the face of blame right now... he is the current puppet of the 5 or 6 families of the Federal Reserve but that doesn't change the fact that there's a plan in motion and a takeover is happening as we discuss this very thing. This is not even able to be argued...well at least it can't be if anyone is current on some of these topics discussed. All the necessary steps are in place for a takeover. Either thru laws such as NDAA or when he wasn't able to sneak one by, he uses Presidential Orders (which should be impeachable in their-selves).

But I don't think there is a direct answer that will fix everything. Maybe government needs to reach out to the people and allow the people to sit down and re-work the system. Politics are so corrupt and out of control with liars, manipulators, hidden agenda type people that they can't be trusted and that's sad. But that's not going to be a possibility because as mentioned, we are labeled terrorists and NDAA will shut us up. You would be surprised to see who is on the active domestic terrorist list....it's a shocker for sure.

We are witnessing the downfall of democracy and it's *SNIP sad and makes me hurt inside for all the soldiers that have given their lives to protect what is being manipulated in such a manner that it's almost as if the government is taunting and laughing about it. Our forefathers are rolling in their graves multiple times!


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posted on Jun, 12 2012 @ 11:44 PM
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Originally posted by GD21D

Originally posted by EarthCitizen07

Yes I am frustrated as hell from all the disinfo. THAT is why I even bother posting in such threads. To show my frustration. America does not need any revolution that will make it go even more right than what it is already. No thank you, no way jose!
So how do you propose a fix? This is not a flame, I'm genuinely interested in your input. Revolution is the only way I see, and that's a crap shoot at best. It would really depend on who ended up leading such a movement.


Knowledge is king. People NEED to learn basic definitions of political ideologies IF schools don't teach this stuff correctly or if they even teach this stuff at all. How can people even vote if they think you can ONLY vote for a republican or democrat and are not aware of the myriad of parties....something like 50 "minor parties". And by the way I really dislike minor because it paints the picture that they must somehow be either too radical or something else is wrong with them. No it is the system fault where donations are king and media will give you the bare minimum coverage.

When all else fails though my suggestion is let the elder native americans hold a sacred meeting on some spiritual campground and split up the states in red versus white. A rough outline would be along the mississippi river; west of ole miss is republican and east is liberal. Good enough?


Everyone should be happy!!!



posted on Jun, 12 2012 @ 11:47 PM
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Our news here in America does not tell us everything!! I look everywhere just trying to find news that is covering what is going on in the world. I usually watch CNN but I am getting sick of them repeating the same news over and over again. I dont like Fox news. I have checked out BBC and its ok. My point- We Americans Do Care!! We cant keep up with what our own Government is doing! Personally, all I get to do is Work and Sleep. This is my first computer and my link to the outside world. We Americans do Care about other humans!! Sometimes we just dont know what to do about something! We are not Rich here in this country!! We worry about food, clothing and shelter like everyone!



posted on Jun, 12 2012 @ 11:48 PM
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Originally posted by FractalChaos13242017
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How long are YOU going to wait?

Once that time comes... What will you do?




My friend... I served and continued serving for 8 years in Afghanistan after leaving active duty. I was once blinded by the hand of the government. Am I prepared... minus a 50 cal and grenades... I'm as prepared as I can be and I'm mentally prepared. I read a lot and research a lot, especially going back into what Presidential Orders mean, what laws are in Congress, what's being discussed. That type of thing.

The fact is, as someone has mentioned already, they have been preparing for this for 100 years or so, they won't allow it to be taken away without a fight and unfortunately, they hold the best weapons.

So mentally, I am definitely prepared to die for what I believe in as I once took an oath to do anyway and ironically, it remains for the Constitution of the US. I will not be shuttled in a bus to a FEMA camp for my protection...that's for sure.



posted on Jun, 12 2012 @ 11:50 PM
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I try to show people the truth...proud to say that i have shown some people close to me the truth it wasnt easy and they thought I was crazy....but the only thing I see working is spreading the truth but i have to agree with u the majority of the people here are blind and too busy with their Hollywood life...I'm trying i really am

I was even thinking of planning on throwing an event(I got my own dj setup) American raveolution with a big screen showing the truth of what's really going on...just an idea I had to reach an audience of around 200-300 people i know i can gather



posted on Jun, 12 2012 @ 11:52 PM
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Originally posted by tw0330
Good luck brother, I'm with you, but be ready for a barrage of trolls.

Like many before you, this will get high jacked and will fall into the abyss because few will fight anymore.

I have to hand it to the trolls though, they are getting good at making subjects like this just disappear.


As for what you said. Right on!


I know.... and that's okay. The trolls are gonna flock as they always do...but *SNIP*.they can say what they want but the facts are there for people to research and see with their own eyes. Even if someone, one person looks further into some of these things then it did it's job. I think education is what needs to happen to wake up the people. But wtf do I know... according to one guy, nothing since he stopped reading that this country is really NOT heading towards becoming a socialist run country and damn near communist. I must be losing my mind with thinking that we are heading in a government run country that has their hand in everything we do. It'll never happen......shaking my head with disgust...lol


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