*I believe this is a general conspiracy, but it could also be deemed other things as well. Because of this, I am posting it here, with the
understanding that there may be another forum this could fit in as well.
**ETA: I am including this edit because it seems I have given off the wrong idea....
I DO NOT INTENDED TO HELP THIS SCAM ARTIST IN ANY WAY, SHAPE, OR MANNER. I introduced my idea of helping this guy as a way to remove myself as a
target and to engage him in a way that has potential to be taken over by authorities, where they can go forward and maybe bring this scammer and maybe
his group to justice.
I PITCHED HIM THE IDEA WITH NO INTENTION OF EVER ASSISTING HIM IN DEFRAUDING A SINGLE PERSON. My pitch to him was as vacant as his scam pitch to me.
Where I do not get what he promises, he will not get what I promise him. In the end, either of us would be scammed by the other.
I have something that anyone who has ever been the target of scam artists or confidence criminals, whether you were scammed or only a target who got
out unscathed, you will love this.
I hope you will do everything you can to help me progress this situation to a point where some form of satisfaction can materialize for all of you who
have been victimized by such despicable people and their plans to separate you from your money.
About an hour ago, EST, I was contacted by a fellow who claimed his name to be 'Lee Cash'.
Mr Cash was very excited to inform me that I had been declared a winner of a secondary prize from the 'Mega Millions Corporations'. This name would
sound very familiar to those who live in several regions the United States, because Mega Millions is one of the nations lotteries that produces
massive Jackpots - in a progressive manner, from drawing to drawing, and based on the lack of winners for previous drawing.
This lottery can climb into the 100's of millions of $$$,$$$,$$$!
It has become common knowledge that there are individuals and supposed 'organizations' or 'sweepstakes/lottery' who prey on the elderly and the
gullible - or even those, who would otherwise be highly skeptical, who have a moment of weakness and fall victim to these predatory scammers.
During the initial call I was nearly sucked in by the sales pitch he was given, because he had not asked for any money or personal information beyond
what he obviously knows already. That all changed when he let me know a government release form would need to be obtained through a local Western
Union, for the price of 499.95 - which I was reinsured would be returned to me upon taking delivery of the $150,000 prize and a $50,000 grand prize.
This is where I bucked the guy, but I did not flame him what-so-ever, I did the opposite. I acted as if I were buying his story, but since I had never
won anything so large in my life I asked that he call me back in an hour so I could talk it over with my wife (which doesn't exist, because I am not
married) and check my savings to be sure I could afford it.
He agreed and after hanging up with him I went directly to the search function of the WorldWideCobWeb. Here I instantly found many reports of scams
nearly identical to one another. All mentioned the (876) area code,their common modus operandi, and a strong warning to steer clear.
I learned this scam company, or another using the exact name, and from the same (area code) had recently been busted in Kingston Jamaica as-well-as
I thought for a few seconds on what I could do to play with him. Maybe I could act like an FBI agent who is recording his calls. Maybe I could ask him
to meet me and I would hand deliver the money and reimburse any of his travel costs + a bonus on top for going out of his way. Maybe I could go old
school and turn the call into a prank and recorded it for kicks on YouTube.
Before I could determine my plan, the phone rang.
I answered it and heard the same voice on the other end, but this time he stated his name was David Goodman. He said 'Hi EA, this is David Goodman
returning your call. You spoke to me a few minutes ago and I just wanted to check in and answer any questions you may have.'
I questions, 'David Goodman?'
Cash replied, 'Yes, David Goodman, we just spoke a few minutes ago.'
That led me to ask, 'What about Lee Cash, that is who I spoke with earlier'
'Yes, he had to step out and he asked me to follow up with you, so you wouldn't feel we forgot about you', he said.
At this point he began pitching heat in an attempt to close the deal. As I hadn't came up with a plan for this talk yet, I went with the first thing
that came to mind.
I asked him, 'Hand on Mr. Goodman, can you give me a few seconds to say something without interrupting me?'
He agreed, so I followed with something like this;
"Listen David, I know what you guys are doing down there' - which he completely denied and reverted to his pitch. I went on to say that know that
you guys scam people to make a deposit for a cash prize that never shows up ...
"News Alert!! Literally, he took the bait at this moment, while writing the thread!"
He denied it for a bit, but I asked him again to not interrupt me and let me finish, he agreed.
I told him that I know he is scamming, I am being straight forward with him. I assured him I would not be giving him money, but I could most
definitely help him.
I asked him to understand that I know how he works. He has a pitch to defraud with. I also told him I know that they routinely make only cold calls
and that he never knows whether the people he is scamming are completely rich or living on a budget with govt assistance.
The quality and state of mind of the target are incredibly important and knowing if their target is wealthy or poor would make an incredible
difference in their 'closing' percentage.
I told him that I after the way I have been treated by people in general, I have no problem turning over their info to him for compensation. I let him
know that I am willing to work with him, as long as he pays me for my successful efforts.
I told him I could drive through the more affluent residential areas and select targets for him. I could get their names and their phone number by
using their address to searching.
He tried to start the pitch, but I stopped him and told him point blank that I will not be participating in his scam, but am offering assistance to
him if he chooses to take it. I told him we could meet so he could know I am on the level and down for what he is doing.
Then I told him that he should not make a decision right now, but he should hang up and think hard about what I told him, he should think of some
questions he may have and he should discuss the idea with those he trusts mostly.
He seemed like he was not up for it at that point, but asked if he should call back in an hour. I told him whenever he wants to, but he should take
more time than an hour to think. I asked him to take a day, a week, or even a month to consider my offer before returning my call.
"Take it easy" was the last thing I said as he replied, "OK, you too buddy"
I left the phone and came directly to ATS, since I had already been on here when he first called...
edit on 12-6-2012 by esteay812 because: clarification