Iran Plans Nuclear-Powered Sub

Originally posted by neo96

How many military interventions has the USA performed in the past 100 years compared to Irans past 100 years.

How about go asking Irans MOIS/VEVAK sure they will be able to fill all the details of Iranian covert actions and the real usage of that nuclear powered war machine.

How about you answer the question instead of deflect it. How about you go to the CIA and they will fill you in all the details of all our covert actions

I will ask you again:

How many military interventions has the USA performed in the past 100 years compared to Irans past 100 years

Originally posted by solarstorm
Amusing comment....Why hasn't the US taken out Israel for the USS Liberty?

Because the USS Liberty was a botched False Flag operation that President Johnson cooked up with Israel's cooperation to get the US involved in the regional issues of the day. The Liberty was attacked by Israel on purpose so we could blame the people Israel was fighting so Johnson told the Navy to send the Liberty into harms way. But a nearby US Carrier the USS America whose Captain wasn't in "The Know" Upon hearing of the attack launched fighters to defend the Liberty. President Johnson was informed and immediately ordered the Jets to stand down and return to the Carrier. There was a very heated argument between the Carrier Captain and those in "The Know"

That's why he ordered the Carrier to stand down three times, the carrier Captain was FUing pissed and kept saying "those are US sailors!!!!"

Johnson told him to stand down or else.

The whole thing blew up in President Johnson's and Israel's faces. The Cat came way the hell out of the bag and Israel got caught out in the open and there was no denying it. It was Johnson who told Israel to attack the ship. He wanted it sunk with no survivors as witnesses so the US could get involved. The Israeli pilots got the wrong orders and were told to simply attack the ship no mention of sinking it. After the first wave came back the pilots reported that it was an American ship and most refused to go back and finish the job.

Israel then sent out a second wave with different pilots. Those pilots balked when they got wind of the Carrier fighters that were launched, so they did a quick strafing of the ship and then split.

Meanwhile unknown to them the Carrier fighters were ordered by Johnson to stand down. By this time the News got out on who really attacked the Liberty so they quickly cooked up the whole "It was a mistake angle"

To be honest Johnson was a terd and Israel got left holding the bag.

But there are so many versions of the story that it really doesn't matter but two things people cant argue against.

1. The first wave of Israeli pilots refused to take another run at the Liberty when it was discovered whose ship it was....

and

2. Johnson ordered the Carrier to stand down in Liberty's defense

collusion

That's the ugly truth.

reply to post by THE_PROFESSIONAL


Cia boogeyman eh?

Wanna try agian?

Research into Sobhani’s long years of service for the Iranian secret police and interviews with former VEVAK agents and active Iranian dissidents familiar with his case chart a tortuous path that throws light on the methods and tactics of an intelligence service that has become one of the world’s largest, and most feared, secret organizations.

www.iranfocus.com...ne-agents-tortuous-path-throws-light-on-vevak-methods&catid=9:terrorism &Itemid=31

In case someone missed it:

active Iranian dissidents familiar with his case chart a tortuous path that throws light on the methods and tactics of an intelligence service that has become one of the world’s largest, and most feared, secret organizations.

That is Iran VEVAK.

reply to post by SLAYER69


Good answer, and it just goes to show that we may not necessarily go to war over relatively small things (USS liberty lost more sailors than the Iran killing few US troops)

We can certainly use those 4 troops as an excuse in the future to go in. We used 911 as an excuse to go into Iraq and Afghanistan. But as I said the political situation is against the war as well and it is election year for Obama

Heck we were using claims of Iranians targeting Saudi officials as a reason for the USA to interfere with iran. Now that is crazy.

reply to post by neo96


Are you saying that CIA doesn't intervene in other countries?

How many countries over the past 100 years the USA intervened in vs Irans interventions?

reply to post by SUICIDEHK45


Looks like the Gulf of Oman,or the Caspian Sea,is going to be radioactive..............

I wouldn't get on that sub,if you paid me.....

Originally posted by THE_PROFESSIONAL
reply to post by neo96

 

Are you saying that CIA doesn't intervene in other countries?

How many countries over the past 100 years the USA intervened in vs Irans interventions?

Iran interventions:

Afghanistan
Lebannon
Syria
Isreal
Iraq
Somailia
Yemen
Pakistan

via VEVAK and other means hell 15,000 troops alone in Syria.

reply to post by neo96


Ok you listed 7 Iranian interventions.

How many Interventions has the USA performed in the Past 100 years

Originally posted by THE_PROFESSIONAL
reply to post by neo96

 

Ok you listed 7 Iranian interventions.

How many Interventions has the USA performed in the Past 100 years

The problem is this .

You DISREGARD Iran's interventions !

WHY?

Its called bias. Plain and simple.Sorry,but I'm going to call you out,on this .

Originally posted by THE_PROFESSIONAL
reply to post by neo96

 

Ok you listed 7 Iranian interventions.

How many Interventions has the USA performed in the Past 100 years

Evil Amerika huh wait ?

What bout all those other countries.

Korea
Vietnam
Gulf war
Operation Iraqi freedom
Afghanistan

Seems Iran was in Afghanitstan during the 70s and 80s

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Iran 8

oops forgot Bosnia Iran still wins.

Originally posted by THE_PROFESSIONAL
Heck we were using claims of Iranians targeting Saudi officials as a reason for the USA to interfere with iran. Now that is crazy.

Saudi Arabia is more than capable of smacking Iran around all by themselves if they wanted to.

The US should not fight their wars.

reply to post by neo96


Evil Iran huh wait ?

The USA has actually over a hundred military interventions in the past 100 years, and that is just the stuff that is public knowledge and does not even include the covert ops.

So you tallied up Iran to what 9 interventions..?

So now who is the actual warmonger?

Originally posted by SLAYER69

Originally posted by THE_PROFESSIONAL
Heck we were using claims of Iranians targeting Saudi officials as a reason for the USA to interfere with iran. Now that is crazy.

Saudi Arabia is more than capable of smacking Iran around all by themselves if they wanted to.

The US should not fight their wars.

Wait until Turkey decides its in their best interest,to take a walk on the wild side.........with Syria.

Queue the music.............

Iran to build nuclear submarine- is this comedy central?

Originally posted by THE_PROFESSIONAL
reply to post by neo96

 

Evil Iran huh wait ?

The USA has actually over a hundred military interventions in the past 100 years, and that is just the stuff that is public knowledge and does not even include the covert ops.

So you tallied up Iran to what 9 interventions..?

So now who is the actual warmonger?

edit on 123030p://6America/ChicagoWed, 13 Jun 2012 00:00:51 -0500 by THE_PROFESSIONAL because: (no reason given)

Iran cause they are building a nuclear powered submarine!!!!

9 interventions eh how bout we check VEVAKs records about that

Originally posted by ludwigvonmises003
Iran to build nuclear submarine- is this comedy central?

Yes.

At times,ludwig....

reply to post by neo96

Iran cause they are building a nuclear powered submarine!!!!

LMAO, if that is your definition of warmongering the USA would still be be bigger warmonger because we already have many nuclear powered submarines and are building many more!

Secondly I have just proven that the USA is the actual warmongering country, and not Iran. Get over it

9 interventions eh how bout we check VEVAKs records about that

how bout we check the CIAs records and then add it up to the 100+ already under the US's belt..

We can both speculate..

Originally posted by THE_PROFESSIONAL


Secondly I have just proven that the USA is the actual warmongering country, and not Iran. Get over it

Sorry PROFESSIONAL.

You only proved that you can overlook Iran's Interventions,for the sake of your own Agenda.

Originally posted by THE_PROFESSIONAL
reply to post by neo96

 

Iran cause they are building a nuclear powered submarine!!!!

LMAO, if that is your reasoning for warmongering the USA would still be be bigger warmonger because we already have many nuclear powered submarines and are building many more!

Secondly I have just proven that the USA is the actual warmongering country, and not Iran. Get over it

9 interventions eh how bout we check VEVAKs records about that

how bout we check the CIAs records and then add it up to the 100+ already under the US's belt..

We can both speculate..

edit on 123030p://6America/ChicagoWed, 13 Jun 2012 00:06:20 -0500 by THE_PROFESSIONAL because: (no reason given)

Haven't seen anything proved in this thread go on list all those "interventions" but wait the thread is about Iran and their nuclear mongering?

Why yes it is.

reply to post by neo96


CUBA 1912 Troops U.S. interests protected in civil war.
PANAMA 1912 Troops Marines land during heated election.
HONDURAS 1912 Troops Marines protect U.S. economic interests.
NICARAGUA 1912-33 Troops, bombing 10-year occupation, fought guerillas
MEXICO 1913 Naval Americans evacuated during revolution.
DOMINICAN REPUBLIC 1914 Naval Fight with rebels over Santo Domingo.
COLORADO 1914 Troops Breaking of miners' strike by Army.
MEXICO 1914-18 Naval, troops Series of interventions against nationalists.
HAITI 1914-34 Troops, bombing 19-year occupation after revolts.
TEXAS 1915 Troops Federal soldiers crush "Plan of San Diego" Mexican-American rebellion
DOMINICAN REPUBLIC 1916-24 Troops 8-year Marine occupation.
CUBA 1917-33 Troops Military occupation, economic protectorate.
WORLD WAR I 1917-18 Naval, troops Ships sunk, fought Germany for 1 1/2 years.
RUSSIA 1918-22 Naval, troops Five landings to fight Bolsheviks
PANAMA 1918-20 Troops "Police duty" during unrest after elections.
HONDURAS 1919 Troops Marines land during election campaign.
YUGOSLAVIA 1919 Troops/Marines intervene for Italy against Serbs in Dalmatia.
GUATEMALA 1920 Troops 2-week intervention against unionists.
WEST VIRGINIA 1920-21 Troops, bombing Army intervenes against mineworkers.
TURKEY 1922 Troops Fought nationalists in Smyrna.
CHINA 1922-27 Naval, troops Deployment during nationalist revolt.

MEXICO

HONDURAS


1923

1924-25


Bombing

Troops


Airpower defends Calles from rebellion

Landed twice during election strife.
PANAMA 1925 Troops Marines suppress general strike.
CHINA 1927-34 Troops Marines stationed throughout the country.
EL SALVADOR 1932 Naval Warships send during Marti revolt.
WASHINGTON DC 1932 Troops Army stops WWI vet bonus protest.
WORLD WAR II 1941-45 Naval, troops, bombing, nuclear Hawaii bombed, fought Japan, Italy and Germay for 3 years; first nuclear war.
DETROIT 1943 Troops Army put down Black rebellion.
IRAN 1946 Nuclear threat Soviet troops told to leave north.
YUGOSLAVIA 1946 Nuclear threat, naval Response to shoot-down of US plane.
URUGUAY 1947 Nuclear threat Bombers deployed as show of strength.
GREECE 1947-49 Command operation U.S. directs extreme-right in civil war.
GERMANY 1948 Nuclear Threat Atomic-capable bombers guard Berlin Airlift.
CHINA 1948-49 Troops/Marines evacuate Americans before Communist victory.
PHILIPPINES 1948-54 Command operation CIA directs war against Huk Rebellion.
PUERTO RICO 1950 Command operation Independence rebellion crushed in Ponce.
KOREA 1951-53 (-?) Troops, naval, bombing , nuclear threats U.S./So. Korea fights China/No. Korea to stalemate; A-bomb threat in 1950, and against China in 1953. Still have bases.
IRAN 1953 Command Operation CIA overthrows democracy, installs Shah.
VIETNAM 1954 Nuclear threat French offered bombs to use against seige.
GUATEMALA 1954 Command operation, bombing, nuclear threat CIA directs exile invasion after new gov't nationalized U.S. company lands; bombers based in Nicaragua.
EGYPT 1956 Nuclear threat, troops Soviets told to keep out of Suez crisis; Marines evacuate foreigners.
LEBANON l958 Troops, naval Army & Marine occupation against rebels.
IRAQ 1958 Nuclear threat Iraq warned against invading Kuwait.
CHINA l958 Nuclear threat China told not to move on Taiwan isles.
PANAMA 1958 Troops Flag protests erupt into confrontation.
VIETNAM l960-75 Troops, naval, bombing, nuclear threats Fought South Vietnam revolt & North Vietnam; one million killed in longest U.S. war; atomic bomb threats in l968 and l969.
CUBA l961 Command operation CIA-directed exile invasion fails.
GERMANY l961 Nuclear threat Alert during Berlin Wall crisis.
LAOS 1962 Command operation Military buildup during guerrilla war.
CUBA l962 Nuclear threat, naval Blockade during missile crisis; near-war with Soviet Union.
IRAQ 1963 Command operation CIA organizes coup that killed president, brings Ba'ath Party to power, and Saddam Hussein back from exile to be head of the secret service.
PANAMA l964 Troops Panamanians shot for urging canal's return.
INDONESIA l965 Command operation Million killed in CIA-assisted army coup.
DOMINICAN REPUBLIC 1965-66 Troops, bombing Army & Marines land during election campaign.
GUATEMALA l966-67 Command operation Green Berets intervene against rebels.
DETROIT l967 Troops Army battles African Americans, 43 killed.
UNITED STATES l968 Troops After King is shot; over 21,000 soldiers in cities.
CAMBODIA l969-75 Bombing, troops, naval Up to 2 million killed in decade of bombing, starvation, and political chaos.
OMAN l970 Command operation U.S. directs Iranian marine invasion.

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