Originally posted by Germanicus
It is more than that and you know it. Do not make lame condescending remarks when you obviously do not understand the situation.
No its 2,500 Marines and its been stated time and again by Obama and the DoD as well as Australia.
Originally posted by Germanicus
Obama has clearly stated that the US military will be shifting focus to the pacific. It is far more than increasing the number of soldiers that the US
has on our soil.
Yup.. if you did some research you would see the US Navy will bear the largest brunt of that shift, with a large portion of their naval shifts being
moved from Atlantic command to the Pacific command. Secondly the US also has territory in that region, as well as the US State of Hawaii so we do have
a vested interest in what China does, as should Australia.
Originally posted by Germanicus
There is talk of a US Drone Base in Australia and the US Navy will be increasing its presence amongst other things.
Talk and nothing more.. Again quit blaming the US for a bilateral decision.. If it was as easy as the US dictating terms there would not be any need
for "talks" now would there? Australia is a sovereign nation and is capable of making decisions, as is the US. If we ask and Australia says yes then
its not the fault of the US now is it?
Originally posted by Germanicus
it is highly offensive for you to make light of this serious situation. Why are you commenting when you obviously have no idea in relation to regional
politics in our part of the world? When you have no understanding or knowledge of what is happening?
Take all the offense you want as it is of no concern to me, especially since your offense stems from your own lack of understanding of whats going on
in the region and the US interest in that region. Since you apparently are somehwat lost let me help you out -
In addition to the Us State of Hawaii -
American Samoa
Baker Island
Guam
Howland Island
Jarvis Island
Johnston Atoll
Kingman Reef
Marianas Trench National Marine Monument NOAA and U.S. Department of the Interior
Midway Islands
Palmyra Atoll
Wake Island
Just to name a few.. Since the name of the game is economics, which is exactly why China has been playing tough when it comes to their maratime claims
(research United Nations EEZ (Exclusive Economic Zone)), the above places the US as an interested party to the regional politics since we are in fact
included as an affected party and not a 3rd party.
Shall we go into the treaties the US, as well as other countries around the world (France, UK, Russia, etc) have with other sovereign nations int he
region? Or is it somehow ok to ignore those countries when they actively pursue and reach a defense / alliance agreement with the US?
How about we look at the US alliance with Tiawan?? People wrongly assume the US is required to defend and protect Tiawan and that is not accurate. The
US agreement pledges to provide Tiawan with the means to defend themselves.
What China is able to get away with now will be measured against the reaction to those issues because it gives us an idea of what happens if we just
allow the Chinese claims to go unchallenged. As an example China has laid claim to Arctic territory currently in dispute between the US, Canada,
Russia etc etc... They have no historic claims yet the resources potential is so high they just decided they have claims that are indisputable.
So before you shoot your mouth off and accuse me of soemthing, maybe you should get all the facts first and be somewhat informed before you try to
lecture.
United Nations - Chinese list of Territorial / Maritime Claims
Originally posted by Germanicus
edit- and is Gridiron a sport? Are there people under all those helmets and pads? You are obviously here to annoy people.
edit on 12-6-2012 by Germanicus because: (no reason given)
Rugby.. A joke towards New Zealand.. You need thicker skin...
edit on 12-6-2012 by Xcathdra because: (no reason given)
