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Jesse Ventura says Vote and Elect Gary Johnson President

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posted on Jun, 12 2012 @ 03:50 PM
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I wish Ventura wouldn't comment on Johnson but it is what it is. I'm voting for him anyway. I'm nervous to do so but I'm going to because it's either that or write something that will have me leaving the voting booth in cuffs.


I do like his stance on a lot of issues, I'm concerned about his fiscal conservatism...not because it's a bad thing but a lot of people are hurting now and a lot of conservatives are asking for austerity but in my opinion austerity doesn't work.

One of his plans is to end farming subsidies, that worries me a lot and I plan on finding out what alternatives he wants to put in place, if he plans on reigning in agritech then I can be happy about that. If it's just sink or swim...I don't like that at all. Tell the corporations and the banks to sink or swim, not the little guy that grows my potatoes.

Mainly I'm voting for him to remind this corrupt two party system that they don't own everyone just yet.




posted on Jun, 12 2012 @ 04:33 PM
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Originally posted by yeahright

Originally posted by Blaine91555
Seems to me this presents another dilemma. Libertarians draw votes away from Republicans, not Democrats. If Johnson gets even two or three percent, Obama wins; right?


The following is my opinion as a member participating in this discussion.


Which is ok, if we somehow manage to at least move the needle in the other direction. When I consider Romney vs Obama I see a choice between McDonalds & Burger King. Irrelevant.

I'd rather at least push in the Libertarian direction even if ever so slightly, rather than vote for one of these manufactured "same as it ever was's".

I consider myself to be a follower of Classical Liberalism which has unfortunately been declared dead.

As an ATS Staff Member, I will not moderate in threads such as this where I have participated as a member.


I started out a Democrat. My Parents were also Democrats and very Conservative as were most Democrats in that era. The Democrats now are very different since the Marxist / European Style Socialist fringe took over. JFK was even a supply side economics proponent and his speeches where almost the same as Reagans. JFK could not run as a Democrat now since his ideology was nearly identical to the current Conservative ideology.

I quit the Party over something that sickened me. The day the assassination attempt on Reagan occurred, I was at a social function with Party Loyalists. They stood up and applauded the shooter and then criticized him for not being a better shot. That ended it for me. I realized the real Democrats were no more.

I see Romney as less of a risk than Obama by far. Obama is the first President to ever scare me. I'd hate to see Obama win over a Third Party Candidate to be honest.

I do like Johnson though so I'm torn. I am a Conservative, but lean Left (in the old school vernacular) on Social issues. Libertarian is not a fit for me either.

Classical Liberalism is simply the Democratic Party of my parents and the one I started out in. I like the term Real Democrats better.

As far as Ventura, his endorsement is not exactly desirable for anyone but a small fringe following.
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posted on Jun, 12 2012 @ 04:43 PM
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I lived in New Mexico when Johnson was Gov. He was a Rush dittohead then, but since he started using the herb, he has softened and done some serious research in what would really be best for America. I'm a RINO and Gary get's my vote. I don't trust Dr. Paul!!!

I think Jesse and Gary might be partying together.
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posted on Jun, 12 2012 @ 04:50 PM
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I am no longer a die hard Jesse fan... in my opinion, he is just enriching himself....He wrote a book called, "Don't start the Revolution without me"..I ordered it and read it and got really excited... I thought maybe THIS guy would be the uniting force for OWS and the rest of us in the 98%.....then Jesse filed a lawsuit against TSA....it was thrown out...(what a surprise)....then....he disappeared.....gone....vanished....back to his fancy hideout in Mexico....well good for him....I would probably leave to my mansion on the beach, if I could do so, too...but, he filled our hearts...and gave us hope....then he left...so, he lost me....he and Ron Paul can go suck eggs....the movement of their lips, means it is time to change the channel....



posted on Jun, 12 2012 @ 08:03 PM
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I like pretty much everything Ive heard outa Johnson, from the drug reform to hearing about how many jobs he created in New Mexico ............Johnson probably is the best guy, since CNN said Ron Paul cant be elected and what CNN says to do ,sheeple do it...



posted on Jun, 13 2012 @ 08:03 AM
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Originally posted by Blaine91555
Classical Liberalism is simply the Democratic Party of my parents and the one I started out in. I like the term Real Democrats better.


The following is my opinion as a member participating in this discussion.


I think you're around my age. The Democratic party of my parents' era were more social liberals like FDR. I'm closer to a Goldwater Republican.

No presidential hopeful really scares me. I wish I saw a true, clear distinction between the major party options. It's more like deciding whether you want to lose an eye or a foot.


As an ATS Staff Member, I will not moderate in threads such as this where I have participated as a member.



posted on Jun, 13 2012 @ 08:08 AM
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It's more like deciding whether you want to lose an eye or a foot.


I usually say it is like choosing between old-fashioned vanilla or vanilla bean vanilla.


But, these days with the Cheetah Legs Prosthetics, losing a leg actually makes you faster! Give up the foot and keep the eye so you can see where you're going on your new racing legs!



posted on Jun, 13 2012 @ 09:54 AM
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Originally posted by Blaine91555
Seems to me this presents another dilemma. Libertarians draw votes away from Republicans, not Democrats. If Johnson gets even two or three percent, Obama wins; right?


I think a better way to phrase this would be something like this. By not acting any differently than the democrats, republicans push voters away who then vote Libertarian.

"If Johnson gets even two or three percent, Obama wins; right?" I think you are likely right. But then if it is that close a race I don't think Romney is the guy to run against obama at all. A Jared Laughner/Anders Breivik team ought to be able to beat obama/biden and they are not even very nice guys. I really think romney was picked because he is a credible enough candidate that most republicans will simply toe the line and vote for him. The key is "most", enough for it to look real but not enough to win against obama. They are counting on a significant amount of disenfranchised republicans defecting and undermining romney's already very shaky support.

If you stand back and look at things it really looks like the republicans are trying to get obama reelected more than they are trying to get romney elected. Why? I'm not sure (but I have a few ideas), but I think that is why they were so blatant in the attempts to silence/exclude Ron Paul who could actually debate obama without looking like an arrogant out of touch 1%er. I think both sides are scared of him, I even saw polls including candidates who had dropped out already but excluding Ron Paul. A crazy amount of effort put forth out of fear (I beleive) that he would damage their agenda



posted on Jun, 13 2012 @ 10:44 AM
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If you stand back and look at things it really looks like the republicans are trying to get obama reelected more than they are trying to get romney elected. Why?


Because Obama is getting the sheep among the Democrat and Liberal voters to happily go along with Corporatism/Fascism. It's amazing how many people are simply swayed by the letter after a politicians name (D) (R) "He's our guy it's gonna be okay." It also helps when the opposition media pundits come out with such complete idiocy (which I'm beginning to think is intentional) that make even sheep snap to and say "wtf that's ridiculous". At which point they go back into drone mode content that anything the Right lobs at Obama is BS.



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