The Masonry Pillars of Our Faith - The Secret in a Mirror so you can see. X Marks the Spot

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Originally posted by fourthmeal
I thought you were going?


www.abovetopsecret.com...

He was, then changed his mind. If you would have read either of the two threads you'd know that.

I try my best to not read his stuff but it really gets in the way.

You see, I find this all hilarious.

Originally posted by fourthmeal
I try my best to not read his stuff but it really gets in the way.

You see, I find this all hilarious.

It's like porn. Exhibit a timble-full of self control and don't click the mouse if you don't want to look at it. Simple. And laughter is great, very therapeutic. Be careful though, don't read while drinking milk or pop.

Ah yes, true. Yet have you seen just how many there are recently? I realized there was a bit of a problem when 3 threads in a row were all created by him, and I was randomly looking about.

Anyway, off to find a thimble to measure with.

Originally posted by fourthmeal
Ah yes, true. Yet have you seen just how many there are recently? I realized there was a bit of a problem when 3 threads in a row were all created by him, and I was randomly looking about.

Anyway, off to find a thimble to measure with.

Sorry, cant say I have. I stay on the "my ATS" page or answer U2Us mostly.

brain. mal. func. tion. can. not. un. der. stand. stu. pid. girl. is. too. stu. pid.

I hate it when everybody else knows the secret except for me


Let me go take an ibuprofen, and read it again in a bit.

Originally posted by stupid girl
brain. mal. func. tion. can. not. un. der. stand. stu. pid. girl. is. too. stu. pid.

I hate it when everybody else knows the secret except for me

Let me go take an ibuprofen, and read it again in a bit.

That's Enoch, he is on a plane about 17 rungs higher than the rest of us mere mortals. :p

reply to post by EnochWasRight

So from your 2nd line of text, you're basically saying we'd have to live a 1000-years to be enlightened as you?

Freemasonry is not a church. It is not there for your salvation. We are a private fraternity. What part of that don't you get? One can't pick the "truth that we desire". Truth is truth. What you are arguing is rhetoric, not fact.

As for the "pillars and DNA" talk, you sound like you watched a few YouTube videos and now are just regurgitating it.

The rest of it seemed to be just jumping around and trying, desperately, to connect dots in attempt to "draw a conclusion".

Originally posted by EnochWasRight
Jesus came to set men free. He was crucified by the fallen on March 3, 33AD at 3:33.

Wait? What? Who is this according to? Did they also take into consideration the change over to Gregorian calendars? Which one of the Apostles had a watch to tell the exact time?

Originally posted by EnochWasRight
Albert Pike, originator of the KKK, was not someone I admire when it comes to that fact.

Actually Pike was never a member or founder of the KKK.

reply to post by NOTurTypical

Too bad he was way off.

reply to post by KSigMason


I think you arent even at the 32nd degree yet, just a wild guess.

Originally posted by EnochWasRight

Originally posted by NOTurTypical
Great vid Enoch. Pastor Mike does get a tad carried away with a few things as they pertain to the church, but overall great presentation about the secret of Masonry.

Let me answer that question on Santa and Nimrod.

Nimrod is the first Builder that was a harsh leader. He built Babel. The walls fell. The one giving gifts did it. He did it for those he loves. Gifts cannot be taken or we are thieves.

Jesus fulfills the WORD and the LAW. Not one jot or tittle will be left undone.

You are still smoking too many musrooms there Enoch.

Jesus and Nimrod are considered to have the same birthday, and the Santa story never entered that connection.


Nimrod had a problem with the issues for god derived from Abraham, the City Of Ur resident, and his connections with the Clan of Anu with Enlil and Enki linked with the City of Ur. Nimrod is shown shooting arrows at the Orion Constellation over his battle with the Clan of Anu as being linked to god.

Nimrod and company just make themselves into god, just as the Clan of Anu did. Nimrod started a tower of Babylon for his own version of the Ziggarot of Ur, later it was built larger and covered with blue tiles, which is the color of the Anu Clan.


Much later Jesus comes along, and the sordid story of Anu and Nimrod get blended into Sun Worship and Jesus memory perverted into a blend of those ideas.

reply to post by MagnumOpus


That's the fault of the pagan Catholic church. True Christians know that Christ was born between the 2nd and 9th if September in 2 BC. One of these days you need to seperate Christianity from Catholicism. Just because Catholics call themselves "Christians" doesn't mean they are. In the dark ages they murdered 20+ million Christians. True Christians also have nothing to do with Easter, it's also pagan. The first Christians celebrated Passover.

Originally posted by NOTurTypical

Originally posted by stupid girl
brain. mal. func. tion. can. not. un. der. stand. stu. pid. girl. is. too. stu. pid.

I hate it when everybody else knows the secret except for me

Let me go take an ibuprofen, and read it again in a bit.

That's Enoch, he is on a plane about 17 rungs higher than the rest of us mere mortals. :p

Uhhh...

Yeah.

Maybe I should tell you about my shroom trip I had once. You know the one, where I learned that everything is just vibrational energy and that water is intelligent and contains all the knowledge of the universe, the one where I realized that our society is nothing more than silly participation in a system that we somehow got duped into believing was real.

Yeah, he's way above me.

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I was told by ATS that this thread had been deleted. Good to see that it is still here. I suppose they simply moved it to Religion.

Originally posted by NOTurTypical
Not talking about Santa and Nimrod friend, talking about him claiming the laying on of hands is Kundalini. It's absurd denominationalism, he hates Pentecostal churches. It's nothing more than impartation of spiritual gifts that Paul talks about in his letter to Timothy.

Right. I was pointing to the report that Nimrod is shown to have a birth date of December 25th. For Masons, they love to make the analogy of God and Santa. This is one example of how God was glad to take the foolishness of man and turn it into his glory. Consider this:

""Nimrod started the great organized worldly apostasy from God that has dominated this world until now.
Nimrod married his own mother, whose name was Semiramis. After Nimrod's death, his so-called mother-wife, Semiramis, propagated the evil doctrine of the survival of Nimrod as a spirit being. She claimed a full-grown evergreen tree sprang overnight from a dead tree stump, which symbolized the springing forth unto new life of the dead Nimrod. On each anniversary of his birth, she claimed, Nimrod would visit the evergreen tree and leave gifts upon it. December 25th, was the birthday of Nimrod. This is the real origin of the Christmas tree." -The Plain Truth About Christmas by David J. Stewart | December 24th, 2005 ."LINK

Nimrod traces back to Esau. Nimrod was also the tower of Babel and Osisis cut up into pieces and spread around the world. Languages were split up. The only part not found was the seed that perpetuates the next generation. It was circumcised. God was at work cutting away the sin.

Why Santa as a connection on my part?

1 Corinthians 13

18 For the message of the cross is foolishness to those who are perishing, but to us who are being saved it is the power of God. 19 For it is written:

“I will destroy the wisdom of the wise;
the intelligence of the intelligent I will frustrate.”

20 Where is the wise person? Where is the teacher of the law? Where is the philosopher of this age? Has not God made foolish the wisdom of the world? 21 For since in the wisdom of God the world through its wisdom did not know him, God was pleased through the foolishness of what was preached to save those who believe. 22 Jews demand signs and Greeks look for wisdom, 23 but we preach Christ crucified: a stumbling block to Jews and foolishness to Gentiles, 24 but to those whom God has called, both Jews and Greeks, Christ the power of God and the wisdom of God. 25 For the foolishness of God is wiser than human wisdom, and the weakness of God is stronger than human strength.

All the foolish signs and festivals of the Pagan religion were pasted over by God with truth. The world would love us to believe that it is the other way around. I beg to differ on that point. God took their foolishness and made it his glory. Satan is made to look the fool.

Sorry to confuse.

Originally posted by fourthmeal
I thought you were going?


www.abovetopsecret.com...

Explained in the opening of the OP.

Originally posted by fourthmeal
I try my best to not read his stuff but it really gets in the way.

You see, I find this all hilarious.

Do you see a connection to Secret Societies and the history we are experiencing today? War? Banking? Commerce? Resources and clean energy?

Originally posted by stupid girl
brain. mal. func. tion. can. not. un. der. stand. stu. pid. girl. is. too. stu. pid.

I hate it when everybody else knows the secret except for me

Let me go take an ibuprofen, and read it again in a bit.

The easy version: X is a chromosome. The double helix of DNA is represented in the two pillars of freemasonry. Why? The object is the elixir of life and the holy grail. They want to cheat death and live forever without God giving it to them. Trace this back to the societies of old going to Jerusalem in search of the grail and the alchemist in search of the philosophers stone. What do all these represent? The fruit of knowledge and the hope that the tree of life can be gained. Read all of Genesis 3. The flaming sword is what God uses to cut away pride. Those who try to get the tree of life (DNA) will have their pride cut. Symbolism.

Next Chapter

God outlined the future of Jacob and Esau. Jacob was the thread that leads to Jesus and Christianity. Esau is the thread that leads to Nimrod and Paganism. Nimrod was the first Builder (Mason). Solomon was also a builder. As Moses returns from Egypt with the schooling of the Egyptian knowledge leftover from before the flood by Enoch, Paganism flourished around this area of the world. Paganism is the Mystery School concept. Moses had the true version from Adam. This is why Joseph had to go to Egypt. He translated. The priests were Pagans, yet Joseph remained pure.

Next Chapter

Jesus shows up and fulfills all of God's law, showing the way to salvation through his example. Those who were following the Pagan version killed the messenger, thereby showing the difference between taking and giving.

Next Chapter

Today, the story continues. God has given them over to their lusts. We still have two division. Those who follow Jacob's thread and those who follow Esau. Issac (Hebrew) and Ishmael (Islam) are the same two division at the inner court. The gentiles are on the outer court by the same division. It is not 2D, but 4D. Outside of all these divisions are the atheists who detest God. The Atheists choose neither God nor Esau. They select logic, reason and and what God calls vain philosophies. It's a dead end, searching for the same thing Esau wants.

Next Chapter

We see the results of the fruit of knowledge (Technology). Men are still trying to take instead of receive from God. As a result, our technology reflects the taking nature of the men who create it. Technology can only destroy the atmosphere. Carbon has 6 protons, 6 neutrons and 6 electrons. It is the mark of mankind and the mark of our fruit of knowledge in a graven image. It can only take. We die as a result when the earth is killed by our works.

Next Chapter

God comes to set it all right. He restores those who witnessed the true light of Jacob. He destroys the works of Babel, Nimrod and Babylon. The Mystery is revealed the moment Christ stepped on the scene. When he returns, faith becomes fact.

Jacob rejoices and Esau mourns. Many will turn to the truth when they see the avalanche of truth happening before their eyes.

Revelation 1:7

7 “Look, he is coming with the clouds,”[a]
and “every eye will see him,
even those who pierced him”;
and all peoples on earth “will mourn because of him.”
So shall it be! Amen.

All souls are here now to see it happen, even the generation the pierced Christ. We will all bow and confess. Satan will be vanquished.

Christ will then raise the temple over the next 1000 years and the truth will be restored.

Next Chapter

We start over on a restored Earth with a new Heaven. The Bible then becomes our Hitchhiker's Guide so to speak. Deuteronomy would be a great book to read with this in mind. Read it as if you are on a new Earth, reflecting on the experience of the past Earth. How would you do it differently if you were mankind; if history could be peeled back in hindsight?

Revelation describes this world. There are no shadows or darkness because the light is everywhere. In other words, the wisdom and knowledge gained from here completes our spirit. We are baptized into the kingdom of God.

The consummation of the ages is complete. It's a marriage of sorts with God.

reply to post by MagnumOpus


MagnumOpus, I find your first two posts and links contradictory.

First, you post a link and a quote that says this:

As Masons, we should reflect upon the significance of the pillars as we construct our personal values and morals. The critics of Freemasonry object to the use of the pillars Jachin and Boaz in Masonic ritual for various reasons; however, the names and descriptions are taken directly from the Bible (I Kings 7) and there is nothing sinister implied by the Masonic usage.

Then, you post a link and a quote that says this:

Masonry is UNIVERSAL and recognizes no CREEDS, taking truth wherever it is found. That Jesus, the man, lived is conceded by even a vast majority of non-Christian creeds, the Jew acknowledges him to have been a Great Teacher. Some Christian creeds declare him to have been "conceived by the Holy Ghost, born of the Virgin Mary," others refuse this dogma, attribute to him no supernatural birth and claim he "achieved Christ-hood." Occult teaching largely agrees with this latter thesis and points to him as a "prototype" of the perfect man - the goal toward which the ENTIRE HUMAN RACE is evolving. We are here referring to the Master strictly in that sense - one who has Mastered himself in the fullest sense of the expression.

Why would the Masons tell everyone that there is nothing sinister regarding the pillars of the temple because the description came straight from the Bible and then tell everyone that they don't recognize any creed? The Bible doesn't say anything about Jesus being a "prototype" or mankind being able to "master" or save ourselves. So, why on earth should we believe the Masons when they say that their description of the pillars is the same as what's written in the Bible?

It sounds to me like the two pillars represent two things to Masons. One pillar stands for truth and the other pillar stands for lies. So, obviously, Freemasonry is using a combination of both to deceive all of it's members into what they want them to believe hoping you won't recognize their contradictions.

reply to post by stupid girl


Stupidgirl, after watching the entire video, there are four Bible verses that come to my mind that summarizes the "secret".

Genesis 3:15

15) And I will put enmity between thee and the woman, and between thy seed and her seed; it shall bruise thy head, and thou shalt bruise his heel.

Genesis 6:4

4 There were giants in the earth in those days; and also after that, when the sons of God came in unto the daughters of men, and they bare children to them, the same became mighty men which were of old, men of renown.

Deuteronomy 22:9

9) Thou shalt not sow thy vineyard with divers seeds (two kinds): lest the fruit of thy seed which thou hast sown, and the fruit of thy vineyard, be defiled.

Daniel 2:43

43) And whereas thou sawest iron mixed with miry clay, they shall mingle themselves with the seed of men: but they shall not cleave one to another, even as iron is not mixed with clay.