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Originally posted by dubiousone
Originally posted by Morgenstern89
* * * But this guy did what he had to do to protect his daughter. It was happening in real time, right in front of him. No hunting the guy down, no vigilantism. Forget the glorification of the kill, which seems to be what offends you the most. Enlighten us. What's the proper thing to do in the situation?
The tenuous validity of your opinion hinges on your unfounded belief that what the father says happened is true. That the father's story is true has not been established.
The father's need to protect his daughter certainly ended at the point when he had beaten the alleged molester to within an inch of his life.
Many innocent people have been accused of child molestation. Why? Because it only takes an accusation for everyone who hears it to instantly believe the accused is guilty. Witness the replies on this thread. The majority of you are doing that very thing. And some people make those accusations because it is easy to make, almost impossible to defend, and helps them to easily achieve a goal.
This needs an in depth investigation by qualified professionals, rather than by all the knee jerk emotionally driven ATS self-appointed judge/jury/executioners all rolled into one, to determine what actually happened and why, including whether the child was sexually molested, whether the molester was the dead man, the nature, extent and duration of the molestation, determination of who molested her, and past history between all persons involved in that tragedy.
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You can spew your vitriol all day long based on your fantasies about what might have occurred but, at the end of the day, the truth of what happened needs to be determined dispassionately based on fact rather than everyone's imagination driven by knee-jerk emotional reaction.
Originally posted by habitforming
Originally posted by PurpleChiten
According to the latest report on the investigation, the little girl's underwear was off and his pants and underwear were pulled down. He was NOT innocent, he was a child molestor and now, he's DEAD and deserves to be.
I do not get it. You seemed so smart in other threads. There is no way dad could have said his daughters pants were down even if they weren't? That is not even an option to you? Dad could not have pulled the dead guys pants down after shooting him? You have heard of a staged murder scene before haven't you?
Hey, I just killed an entire family of people.
Do not worry, I saw them raping children, I promise. I get to go now, right?
Originally posted by habitforming
No, sorry. I know how English works and the word "make" in your sentence messes it all up. YOU READ IT AGAIN. Correct your error and get back to me. Or, let it sit there UN-answered. In the meantime the best thing you could possibly do is answer my question. I wrote it in clear plain English. You need to learn how to use commas. There are not drones recording any of my interactions right now PERIOD. So there are drones with footage of this man raping this kid? I really do not get your point about the drones at all. What they have to do with this case. How many of the interactions you have made have been recorded?edit on 16-6-2012 by habitforming because: (no reason given)
I wrote it in clear plain English. You need to learn how to use commas.
Originally posted by bigfatfurrytexan
Originally posted by habitforming
Originally posted by PurpleChiten
According to the latest report on the investigation, the little girl's underwear was off and his pants and underwear were pulled down. He was NOT innocent, he was a child molestor and now, he's DEAD and deserves to be.
I do not get it. You seemed so smart in other threads. There is no way dad could have said his daughters pants were down even if they weren't? That is not even an option to you? Dad could not have pulled the dead guys pants down after shooting him? You have heard of a staged murder scene before haven't you?
Hey, I just killed an entire family of people.
Do not worry, I saw them raping children, I promise. I get to go now, right?
The guy was INSIDE these peoples homes.
And I would expect that the little girl had her own story (which will be researched by the proper authrotiies)., and I would expect that her story supports her fathers claim.
it goes beyond the pale that people in this thread would question this little girls story. Its no wonder that those poor boys were molested by Sandusky, because Sandusky was right: some folks just don't want to believe the kids when they report what has happened to them. Look at this thread There is absolutely no reason for anyone to question what happened, except for their own ATS paranoid minds.
There are times when questioning the official story makes you look smarter. This is not one of those times.
Originally posted by MI5edtoDeath
reply to post by bigfatfurrytexan
Actually I don't question the veracity of what happened and I do believe child abuse is pervasive with some people molesting children specifically to damage them and not just because of some perverse sexual proclivity.
What I object to is a man, even a pervert, being beaten to death. Vigilante justice is a crime in itself.
Here is an example of the barbarity of vigilante justice and I recommend that if you are of a nervous disposition or a minor not to watch this video.
edit on 16-6-2012 by MI5edtoDeath because: (no reason given)
Originally posted by getreadyalready
reply to post by MI5edtoDeath
That is a horrible scene, but what do we know about it? Maybe they deserved it?
If you click on more info, it says they are burning them because they believe that they are witches. Still think it's justifiable? Apparently the people doing the burning absolutely think so.
Originally posted by 0zzymand0s
IF he was attacking a *anyone*, good-riddance. The problem is we have a two-men-can-keep-a-secret-if-one-of-them-are-dead scenario here. Let's hope there is some kind of investigation. I'd hate to think we can just start killing anyone we invite over to the house now, if all that is required to get away with it is an accusation like this....
Originally posted by putnamcrab
Originally posted by 0zzymand0s
IF he was attacking a *anyone*, good-riddance. The problem is we have a two-men-can-keep-a-secret-if-one-of-them-are-dead scenario here. Let's hope there is some kind of investigation. I'd hate to think we can just start killing anyone we invite over to the house now, if all that is required to get away with it is an accusation like this....
Not sure why you got all those stars! But the guy pulled the man off his daughter and she was seen by a doctor it was confirmed that it happened!
Originally posted by Daughter2
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It seems like this guy was one of the good old boys and the person he killed was probably a Mexican.
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Originally posted by putnamcrab
Originally posted by 0zzymand0s
IF he was attacking a *anyone*, good-riddance. The problem is we have a two-men-can-keep-a-secret-if-one-of-them-are-dead scenario here. Let's hope there is some kind of investigation. I'd hate to think we can just start killing anyone we invite over to the house now, if all that is required to get away with it is an accusation like this....
Not sure why you got all those stars! But the guy pulled the man off his daughter and she was seen by a doctor it was confirmed that it happened!
Originally posted by roadgravel
Originally posted by Daughter2
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It seems like this guy was one of the good old boys and the person he killed was probably a Mexican.
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What makes you so sure the dad wasn't also of Mexican decent?
Originally posted by roadgravel
Originally posted by Daughter2
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It seems like this guy was one of the good old boys and the person he killed was probably a Mexican.
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What makes you so sure the dad wasn't also of Mexican decent?
edit on 6/16/2012 by roadgravel because: fix tag
Originally posted by roadgravel
Originally posted by Daughter2
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It seems like this guy was one of the good old boys and the person he killed was probably a Mexican.
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What makes you so sure the dad wasn't also of Mexican decent?
edit on 6/16/2012 by roadgravel because: fix tag
he two kids’ grandfather later said the boy returned and told him that his sister had been taken away by a man (Flores) who apparently dragged her behind some bushes on the property. The Texas dad went out looking for her, calling her name. KPRC reportedly spoke with the family.
Soon after, he heard the sound of his little girl’s screams and rushed to find her. When he did, he says Flores was molesting his daughter. The dad yanked him off of her and repeatedly struck him in the head and neck with his fists, ultimately killing him. Flores, an acquaintance of the father, had been hired to help tend to some of the family’s horses.
But it is now clear that the father walked into a even more horrifying scene than previously known.
“When emergency medical personnel arrived, Jesus Mora Flores‘ pants and underwear were down and the man’s genitals were exposed,”