Who else wants to uncover the secret connections among TPTB? [with charts], page 1


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Topic started on 11-6-2012 @ 01:27 PM by UltimateSkeptic1
Question: How do you make sure your horse wins the Kentucky Derby?
Answer: You own all the horses in the race.

Question: How do you make sure your candidate wins an election?
Answer: You own all the candidates in the race.

Question: How do you own the candidates?
Answer: With money.

Question: Who can contribute the most money and buy the most candidates?
Answer: Corporations

Question: How can you control where the money goes?
Answer: Own the corporations.

Question: How can you own corporations?
Answer: Start your own venture cap company like Bain Capital or Perseus, LLC, and buy the companies.

Let's reverse engineer how Obama became POTUS. In 2004 he ran for Senate. The fundraising arm of his campaign was known as Obama for Illinois.

Here is a small sampling of the contributors to Obama for Illinois back in 2004. Make sure to use the scroll bar to scroll horizontally. Make special note of Frank Pearl, Chairman of Perseus, LLC. This shows you who TPTB are:



Note the number of investment banks that put their money on Obama back in 2004 when he was running for Senate. Obama's 2008 Presidential campaign didn't begin in 2007. It began in 2004, and was coordinated and financed by the people who invested in Obama for Illinois.

Is it really surprising that Obama was in bed with big Pharma? Obama's investors own big Pharma. The same people who own the healthcare companies own Obama. Do you own research on the investments made by Perseus, LLC. It's easy.

Research Perseus LLC healthcare holdings here.

Now look at this next chart. It shows the connections with Bain Capital, which was founded by Mitt Romney. Note that Joshua Bekenstein, the current CEO of Bain Capital, supported Mitt Romney, Hillary Clinton, Barack Obama, and Al Gore:



These people ARE TPTB. They own both horses in the race, Romney and Obama.

The corporations are not the problem.

TBTP who own and control investment banks that own the corporations are the problem.

They control the corporations through private investment companies, hedge funds, and venture cap funds. These are the people that control the government, the media, the entertainment industry, and the banks.

Obama was plucked from obscurity and put in the White House by TPTB. Romney IS TPTB.

If you want to do your own research you might want to start with Joshua Bekenstein, the current CEO of Bain Capital, or James Johnson, Richard Holbrooke, John Schweiters, and Frank Pearl, all of whom manage Perseus, LLC, and see how far down the rabbit hole you want to go:

Click here to uncover the secret connections among TPTB


reply posted on 11-6-2012 @ 01:39 PM by Allegory of Illumination
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Thanks for the great information!

I don't think there's a clearer way to show the hidden hands that control the world around us, than with graphs such as these.

I'm off to look up more information on Mr. Frank H. Pearl, I am not familiar.


reply posted on 11-6-2012 @ 02:02 PM by UltimateSkeptic1
Originally posted by Allegory of Illumination
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post by UltimateSkeptic1



Thanks for the great information!

I don't think there's a clearer way to show the hidden hands that control the world around us, than with graphs such as these.

I'm off to look up more information on Mr. Frank H. Pearl, I am not familiar.



Direct connection to Bilderberg, James A. Johnson, Richard Holbrooke, and players in the 9/11 drama.

Perseus LLC is at the center of the web. No coincidence they are named after Perseus, slayer of Medusa. It's no secret their goal was to keep Hillary Clinton from winning the nomination in 2008.



reply posted on 11-6-2012 @ 02:03 PM by boncho
Originally posted by Allegory of Illumination
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post by UltimateSkeptic1



Thanks for the great information!

I don't think there's a clearer way to show the hidden hands that control the world around us, than with graphs such as these.

I'm off to look up more information on Mr. Frank H. Pearl, I am not familiar.



You could also be showing the attendees of a charity golf tournament just as easily with the same chart.


reply posted on 11-6-2012 @ 03:01 PM by UltimateSkeptic1
Originally posted by boncho
Originally posted by Allegory of Illumination
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post by UltimateSkeptic1



Thanks for the great information!

I don't think there's a clearer way to show the hidden hands that control the world around us, than with graphs such as these.

I'm off to look up more information on Mr. Frank H. Pearl, I am not familiar.



You could also be showing the attendees of a charity golf tournament just as easily with the same chart.



Really? Let's explore that logical fallacy in that thinking.

Obama created "Obama for Illinois" to raise money to run for the Senate. He solicited contributions. Those who contributed are shown on the chart. They wanted to support the Obama election, and many were principles in organizations with the money and influence to help Obama win in 2008. This is what they all had in common.

People at a charity golf tournament go there to golf, socialize, and perhaps support the charity.

So both situations involved people supporting a cause.

The point of the OP is that the people supporting both the Obama cause and the Romney cause are the same people. They are private investment companies that own the corporations that donate the money to the campaigns.


reply posted on 11-6-2012 @ 03:09 PM by boncho
reply to post by UltimateSkeptic1

The point of the OP is that the people supporting both the Obama cause and the Romney cause are the same people. They are private investment companies that own the corporations that donate the money to the campaigns.




Yes, I just find the whole thing kind of anti climactic. Seeing as though it is no secret politicians raise money to campaign for their positions. And it is no surprise that there are corporate backers to different campaigns.

Do a search on the people you listed and you will find donations to multiple people across party lines over the years. And you will probably see some PAC donations as well. But this isn't really groundbreaking or earth shattering. Where did you think politicians got their money for a campaign?

As I said, it could just as easily be the roster for a charity golf tournament...
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reply posted on 11-6-2012 @ 04:19 PM by Trillium
Originally posted by boncho
Originally posted by Allegory of Illumination
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post by UltimateSkeptic1



Thanks for the great information!

I don't think there's a clearer way to show the hidden hands that control the world around us, than with graphs such as these.

I'm off to look up more information on Mr. Frank H. Pearl, I am not familiar.



You could also be showing the attendees of a charity golf tournament just as easily with the same chart.



Yes you could but that because the charity golf tournament is the cover story for the meeting.
There plan or not alway made in secrete meeting.


reply posted on 11-6-2012 @ 04:49 PM by boncho
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Yes you could but that because the charity golf tournament is the cover story for the meeting. There plan or not alway made in secrete meeting.




That's exactly my point really. You can take anyone that controls a corporation with marketcap of over a billion, or simply take the Forbes 500 list and make fancy charts that connect like spiders all over the place.

It doesn't really tell you anything. Out of all the people who have donated, sponsored or supported an elected official, it is not even guaranteed that they realized anything out of their investment.

Hence, you will see support conflict or cross party lines sometimes.

In some cases, that is just a door to build a relationship, but it does give us a concrete explanation as to the motives behind elected officials. Now say if you had a hidden microphone at a charity golf event, or in the oval office, or someone's bedroom... You might just get the actual story.


reply posted on 11-6-2012 @ 04:56 PM by JBA2848
You also missed two on Mitt Romney.
George Felix Shevlin IV Democratic Caucus Executive Director. Partners with Suwanlert Jack who is head of global security for Marriott Hotels.

George Felix Shevlin III obituary Oct 04, 2011
poststar.com...


In addition to his wife Linda, George is survived by four children, George Felix Shevlin IV and his partner, Peerapol Jack Suwanlert, of Washington, D.C.


And then you have Jon Huntsman who has the same grand father as Mitt Romney.

www.geni.com...


Their common ancestor is Parley P. Pratt, an early leader of the Latter Day Saint movement. Pratt is Mitt Romny‘s second great grandfather and Jon Huntsman‘s third great grandfather.

Parley P. Pratt
Parley P. Pratt was an original member of the Quorum of the Twelve Apostles, a governing body of the Church of Latter Day Saint’s hierarchy, which was organized by the Latter Day Saint movement’s founder Joseph Smith. After the death of Joseph Smith, Pratt and his family were among the Latter Day Saints who emigrated to Utah territory to continue on The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints under the direction of Brigham Young.



reply posted on 11-6-2012 @ 06:32 PM by UltimateSkeptic1
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I love the nnbd site.

You can uncover so many of the connections here.

The point is that it's the private equity firms who control everything -they own the corporations and put members on the boards. Goldman Sachs is the spider in the middle of the web.

do your own research here

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