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Originally posted by Unity_99
Well they need to release the study itself so we can see what they mean by their findings. What they determine 'doing well" to mean. I don't want to hear about it, I want to read it in detail.edit on 11-6-2012 by Unity_99 because: (no reason given)
Originally posted by ownbestenemy
That is another thread...not this one. And someone posting about a study that points to the natural order (in which without scientific discovery, would be a side note; wouldn't you agree) of a typical family.
But as already pointed out by two single parents and kids growing up fine, it isn't all inclusive. I honestly stand by my stance that if a child grows up in a family (two parents; be it two dads, two moms, or the traditional) they would fair much better because the support is doubled. Parents don't have to exhibit all aspects of the emotional and disciplinary structure in those situations. They have help.
If you want to see this as "bashing" it is obvious that I cannot tell you otherwise because that is how you feel. But I am not seeing how it is.
Originally posted by LeoStarchild
Im not religious ..I am spiritual. I was mearly using that as a reference because , oh i donno a P+V = babies.
I believe you can make people gay. I have a transgender member in my family who was married for 25 years .. 2 kids .. and one day they decided to switch hit.
I dont believe its programmed into our heads because like i said before a P+V=babies.. Its the circle of our lives.
Again, im not against gays, but with all the gay we see in our lives .. it just seems odd. Its un-natural.
A husband and mother can teach the cycle of life better than a gay couple in my eyes
Originally posted by MentorsRiddle
Homosexuality is an abnormality, in the most basic sence of the word.
I understand that you feel put out. I understand that you are frustrated. I understand that many of you feel that you were born homosexual, and probably feel like a victim of an unjust burden that was given to you from the get-go.
The desire to have children is natural. Normal.
To have a child is a gift and a blessing.
To love a child is to put the needs and well being of that child above your own. Therefore - to adopt a child, or to "force" yourself into having sex with someone just to have a child, while knowing you are homosexual, is selfish.
You are not placing that child above your own desire. You are not placing that childs well being above your own. You are forcing that child into a lifestyle that goes in opposition to the standard normal - thus forcing the child into a life that is CERTAIN to have more hardships. This to me is the opposite of love. This is the very core of selfish behaviour and attitude.
Originally posted by SearchLightsInc
Originally posted by ownbestenemy
Btw, can we stop the gay bashing threads? You'd one a day would keep you sane!
Maybe I missed the bashing call...I am not seeing it. It is a study in the effects of a child in a traditional home....how is that bashing?!edit on 11-6-2012 by ownbestenemy because: (no reason given)
Another thread on here about boy scouts not allowing gay's into their club - basicly a thread about keeping gay's in their place. And now this? someone posting a study that suggests "what we knew all along" that children grow up better in traditional nuclear families with a mommy and a daddy. Cmon now, I think there's a conspiracy to lock homosexuals back in the closet on ATS
Bashers are out in force recently!
Originally posted by WhoKnows100
So, according to your view, truth must be viewed as gay bashing?
Perhaps men are getting fed up with seeing themselves portrayed as buffoons on television, or perhaps moms are getting fed up with seeing no healthy families portrayed on the tv show that their kids watch? I have an 8 year old, and I'll describe the kids shows that are most popular; shows in which it's rich kids with no parents, rich kids on a school cruise with no parents, and if there is a show with families, the dad is portrayed as a laughing stock whilst the kids disrespect and talk back their parents...or how about teenagers playing around with seances and magic? I've had to limit tv and sit down and explain to him why they are doing this in terms that he can understand - monkey-see, monkey-do.
The media has rotted the morals of this nation, and continually undermines the healthy strong traditional family. Kids today are ingesting this false version of reality whereby no love is placed on the family, and are especially seeing no strong love of a father figure. Identities are being purposely confused and socially engineered to reject family.
This isn't about gay bashing, but rather affirming the importance of the family unit for 98% of the population.
It's about, even in divorce, two parents can still work together for the sake of their children.
You will not understand this, but God is Our Father
now try figuring out why Godless television producers portray fathers as either dysfunctional, absent or the laughing stock.
Originally posted by MentorsRiddle
If observing that you are choosing to put a child into certain social stigma and torment as being ignorant, when this is an obvious fact, then I guess I am ignorant.
However, I view you as being blind and selfish by thinking it is ok to do this to a child.
I am a well-educated person, and have no problem with someone wanting to be homosexual - but when you try and drag children into the mix I draw the line. That is not ok. That is not fine. That is not correct in any way.
So go ahead, and try and call me ignorant, when I have been very courteous - because that is just a ploy to try and turn the tables and make me the ignorant one, when in reality, you are the willfully ignorant to deny a simple truth that this will bring more hardships on a child.
I never said you couldn't adhere to their needs - do not put words into my mouth to try and further your agenda. That is not what I said. Do not try and change what I said.
That makes you worse than ignorant....
By your logic, prostitutes, drug abusers, people who are in and out of prison all the time are also selfish for reproducing and letting there children inherit their social stigma. Glad we cleared that up.
Originally posted by tothetenthpower
It's all about HOW you raise your children, not who raises your kids. By this logic all single parents are unfit to raise children and although in the very basic sense, yes it's probably the natural thing to have a mother and a father raising a kid, ( as nature originally intended) in today's society, there are far too many variables that make this a moot point.