Young atheist and old Christians are the problem , page 1


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reply posted on 11-6-2012 @ 10:57 AM by XLR8R
reply to post by KnawLick



Yeah! Blame everybody else but yourself. (I dont mean you, everbody blames everybody else) The problem isn't with young/old atheist and/or young/old christians. It lies with intolerence for the beliefs or disbeliefs of others. We (humans) must learn to live with eachothers differences. It doesn't matter if you're gay, christian or Hungarian. Live and let live. Do unto others...budy.
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reply posted on 11-6-2012 @ 11:01 AM by KnawLick
reply to post by XLR8R



I mean thats great in theory but you must not have been living in the real world lately.

What you described is a GREAT way to think and maybe one day we will get their as a society, but it sure isn't happening in my lifetime so I rather focus on reality.


reply posted on 11-6-2012 @ 11:06 AM by KnawLick
reply to post by FlyersFan



I think your right to a certain extend. TPTB do a very good job of keeping us to our respective teams. I think of it as a football game, the Redskins (republicans) and the Cowboys (democrats), facing off on MNF. Don't you dare be friends with one of those Redskins fans! haha its all nonsensical.

That said there is no denying that there are many issues that fundamentally do divide people. Even many hear on ATS who are "awake" to reality don't agree on anything and that has nothing to do with TPTB.


reply posted on 11-6-2012 @ 11:17 AM by KnawLick
reply to post by spinalremain



There are like 5 other threads open telling people how stupid they are for not believing evolution, go bother them.


reply posted on 11-6-2012 @ 11:26 AM by Dero
reply to post by KnawLick



BAWWWWWWWW

You're welcome!



reply posted on 11-6-2012 @ 11:34 AM by RicoMarston
reply to post by KnawLick



"Younger atheist are almost always militant in their beliefs, and can never be told that their wrong. From the gay rights agenda, to evolution's preeminence in society, to more socialist tendencies, etc."

you are using the word "militant" incorrectly. vigorously active, combative and aggressive? i think you see the newish practice of atheist organizations popping up and "attacking" religion with billboards and pamphlets. hardly militarism.

you are also tying evolutionists, atheists, gay rights activists and socialists together when they are in no way directly linked. there are conservative christians who want equal civil rights for gays. there are patriots who believe that we can learn valuable lessons from socialist teachings. there are evolutionary creationists. there are "young atheists" who hate socialism, gays AND charles darwin.

i think that you are confusing loud and obnoxious members of a group with THE GROUP itself.


reply posted on 11-6-2012 @ 11:42 AM by KnawLick
reply to post by RicoMarston



I think the word militant is appropriate. I think somebody who is fanatical in their beliefs to the point where they could care less what anybody else has to say is militant. E.g. a muslims terrorist can be "militant" in their beliefs BEFORE they strap a bomb to themselves.... (not that I'm comparing atheist to terrorist, just an example)

Touche. You are right I am lumping together people into groups, and your right they don't always believe in the same things. But for the sake of my fingers typing, its impossible to make every qualifying statement necessary. I think I fairly accurately described what these groups WANT you to think they represent however. I didn't say everybody named Johnnie believes this, just what these two groups project out to the public.

But all a group is, is what they project to the outside world. By definition a group doesn't have individualistic characteristics. So your right the individuals within these groups might not be as annoying but the groups themselves sure are.
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reply posted on 11-6-2012 @ 11:46 AM by spinalremain
Reply to post by KnawLick


No I posted on this thread and addressed the OP directly.

That's what ATS is for. If you are bothered by my response then the problem lies with you, not me.

What about my response "bothered you" anyway?



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reply posted on 11-6-2012 @ 11:54 AM by KnawLick
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I am the OP, what bothered me was picking one minor detail, used as a example not as a defining point, and going off on a rant about how older people must be idiots anyways if they don't believe in evolution..

Actually, you know what, I'm not bothered in the slightest, because you proved my point. You just couldn't help yourself.

So to all, this is the issue I am talking about in this thread.


reply posted on 11-6-2012 @ 11:56 AM by RicoMarston
reply to post by KnawLick



i'm a drummer. does that mean i think that travis barker (very famous and talented drummer for the aquabats, boxcar racer, +44 and blink-182) is a great guy and support his lifestyle and choices? of course not. i've never met him.

just because somebody can be called something, doesn't mean that they belong to a group and to oversimplify modern society and its clique and niches does yourself a disservice. if you met a "young atheist" or an "old christian" and brought all of the baggage around what you believe about their group, or more importantly, what said group's public leadership wants you to believe, then you'll miss out on some genuine connections and personal growth.


reply posted on 11-6-2012 @ 12:05 PM by XLR8R
reply to post by KnawLick



I'm not saying that's the way it is. I know exactly how the world turns. Most rag on other because of petty differences. I say we must move past those differences before we destroy eachother.


reply posted on 11-6-2012 @ 12:06 PM by XLR8R
reply to post by Turkenstein



Great lookin' out. I'm proud of you. Way to go budy.
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